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TylerCrockett 10-16-2007 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by 2 Trick Rick (Post 2307727)
The Claiming rule really help slow down the cost in Amateur Motocross. You had Factory backed 15yrs racing full on “works bikes”... That all changed overnight when the AMA implemented the claim rule were any other racer could “claim” another bike for twice the retail value or something along that line. I’m not sure if it would work in boat racing but it may. Have 6 Different claim prices for each class…

So who do I make out the check to for 1 of Crockets Motors…

Rick make it out to me I have 2 ready to go I listed them but somebody deleted the thread.

Top Banana 10-17-2007 06:00 AM


Originally Posted by 2 Trick Rick (Post 2308080)
Intresting, but were right back to buying a new boat.. I already have 2 ..LOL


Yes...but these boats will retain their value, as they can be resold and reused and still be competitive with the new owners.

You can even use all the stuff from your 2 old boats to build your new race boat. Drives, engines, tabs, tanks, steering, etc. etc.

Every boat will have a plaque embedded into the transom, with a HORBA series number assigned to it.

The boats are small enough to be moved with a regular pickup truck, and can all be launched by trailers on a ramp, no need for cranes or slings.

All motors to be pump gas only. We are trying for simple and easy here.

fastedy 10-17-2007 06:54 AM

Top Banana,

Are these molds in existence at this time, what would the cost be for a blank hull?

THEJOKER 10-17-2007 07:26 AM

Top Banana:

I'm not on here trying to sell boats , obviously you are. You build one of your boats and you can come race against us , how's that for a challenge? I'm an old Factory 1 racer and I'm once again trying to get some interests back in the class. I'm not planning a whole new racing series , etc. There is OPA and APBA / SBI that would welcome any boats that meet their criteria.

2 Trick Rick 10-17-2007 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by Top Banana (Post 2308211)
Yes...but these boats will retain their value, as they can be resold and reused and still be competitive with the new owners.

You can even use all the stuff from your 2 old boats to build your new race boat. Drives, engines, tabs, tanks, steering, etc. etc.

Every boat will have a plaque embedded into the transom, with a HORBA series number assigned to it.

The boats are small enough to be moved with a regular pickup truck, and can all be launched by trailers on a ramp, no need for cranes or slings.

All motors to be pump gas only. We are trying for simple and easy here.




To grow people need to be able to race what they already have, Buying having to buy another Hull or boat would just add cost.

It’s a very dammed if you do dammed if you don’t

Wahoo ATV 10-17-2007 08:09 AM

IMO, a new series is just what we do not need. We need to build off the existing OPA model and attract better venues, Series Sponsors and TV that pays us to film it. Smitty has done a great job and has always made room for other classes if they had the boats. Get 10 F1 boats that want to race under those rules and I'm sure you will have a class.

THEJOKER 10-17-2007 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by Wahoo ATV (Post 2308318)
IMO, a new series is just what we do not need. We need to build off the existing OPA model and attract better venues, Series Sponsors and TV that pays us to film it. Smitty has done a great job and has always made room for other classes if they had the boats. Get 10 F1 boats that want to race under those rules and I'm sure you will have a class.


100% AGREE!

2 Trick Rick 10-17-2007 08:50 AM

You just need to find a way to make the boats that are currently being raced equal. Maybe added or removing weight, making everyone run the same gear ratio, a claiming rule on motors so people don’t overpower the class or even a combination of all. But one thing we don’t need is another organization to build another class.

louietherigger 10-17-2007 08:50 AM

Dean, I agree with you 100%, The OPA has pulled a lot of boats out of the backyards and also inspired a lot of people to build new ones. I've never seen Smitty turn anyone away from racing, and because of that we have some dynomite teams. Joker in my last post, I did know you were talking about non canopied boats of a different size, I was just giving an example of how things can level off. A lot of this post race banter is fueled by racers who broke out or feels another team that came in ahead of him did, seems no one complains when there holding the checkered flag, atleast I don't. :p WooHoo!! Louie

fastedy 10-17-2007 09:29 AM

I didn't break out for a change, but I do have an interest in some kind of spec racing, Louie, you basically have spec class all running with 525's, I greatly appreciate what going on in "Class Racing" but I think it needs to lead to something in the long run. I know the economy has a lot to do with boat count but a lot of us remember a poor race was less than 60/70 boats. Maybe as OPA boat count grows you could develop 2 to 3 premiere class, a single, twin, and a Cat, or the the concept that Top Banana was talking about with real Ocean Racing in conjunction with Class Racing, Remember F1 and F2 alone had more boats than any Race we have had all year.

Eddie


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