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Old 12-18-2008 | 04:59 PM
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Just got off the phone with Troy and he is done. Has something to do with the drives again.

I will post more later and some pics.

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Old 12-19-2008 | 01:40 PM
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What's the problem? Who said there was an issue with his drives? We'd like to see him race with OSS at some point. Sounds like he had an issue at a POPRA event.

Please fill us in.
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Old 12-19-2008 | 03:43 PM
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What type of boat? Any pics, what is the asking price?
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Old 12-19-2008 | 04:14 PM
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it's a 36' Skater - Cat Lite.
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Old 12-19-2008 | 04:36 PM
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rick i think it's the old pepper's cat lite. a standard 36 with the old school looking deck. with an added a AMT canopy. don't know who had it before pepper's and or it might have been the old team Telium boat. i'm thinking the teluim was turned into a pleasure boat awhile back??

mike stancombe should be able to to fill in the blanks
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Old 12-19-2008 | 05:46 PM
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It was Peppers and before that RAGAMUFFIN. I think it was 36 #2......It was a twin canopy race boat with Weismann #6's, then badly crashed, then 1/4 canopy F3 class very fast with IMCO's, The it was retro fitted with an AMT canopy and run in SCL with the IMCOs. Peppers built a new 368 and sold this boat to the current owners. It was run for a period with the IMCO's and this year they put the original Weismann #6's back on the boat......
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Old 12-20-2008 | 11:48 AM
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Ron , i think its Pats drives, the class may have an issue with...i know mike had issues trying to run them... someone should grandfather it in like they did with me..Ron try to call him and keep him in the game...
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Old 12-20-2008 | 12:57 PM
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Here it is in a nutshell.

Two guys by a 13 year old raceboat to go race.

This old raceboat is grandfathered.

This old raceboat blows a bravo/imco at the Rum Run in 07.

They convert old boat back to original equipment. Weismann #6 dry-sump and ditch the Innovation (grandfathered) engines for 525's.

Convert from 1.61 to 1.5.

They go to the kilo event and get pushed out of SCL into sportsman cat because of skeg thickness.

We developed this drive in 1993. We did the swept skeg design in 1995 because of istability at 120 plus mph. This was one of 5 designs.

We have always made our drives the same. They are dry-sump swept skeg standard. Jd Byrider has 4 more identical to these.

In 1998/99 Merc came out with their swept version. It is not the same. Last year alone 7 skeg failures in SCL that I know of for sure.

As for the oil. It is another attempt to make our drive into a wet-sump with a pump like a merc and I refuse to false advertise.

So the boat is in limbo....cannot race SCL.

I cannot recommend to them to change the lowers to the current design for .012 to .030 of an inch difference with the possiblity of failing a skeg.

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Old 12-20-2008 | 01:27 PM
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who is, exactly saying the boat can't run SCL??
did someone protest them?

typical race org's, showing everyone how they are expanding the sport??!!??
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Old 12-22-2008 | 12:14 PM
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POPRA rules specifically describe this boat. Either it met the specifications or it didn't.

"25. Grandfathered Boat - The old Peppers boat with Bravo drives, minimum weight 8000 pounds. The old Peppers #2 with Weisman SSM 6 drives must use 5 quarts of oil in the lower unit. Skeg dimensions must conform to POPRA templates (specifications). Minimum boat weight 8000 pounds with the Weisman SSM 6 drives. "
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