Blown motor?
 

Frank did you blow a motor testing? I heard the Phanton blew another new one and just got a 3rd one in time for this race and Kildal blew yet another one. Is everyone blowing up the same thing or is it different problems with all of them? Seems like the Doc has the best builder with no issues yet and runs very strong. I did enjoy the SVL race and loved the action with Phantom and Sun Print. Kildal was closing in the end and finished strong as well. Congrats to you all.

As far as I know Steve K ran fine and had no motor issues or did Phantom 9. NO we didnt blow a motor have an electrical issue, I think its the herness but I will know for sure thursday. So all is well and NO blown motors. Why dont you come down to Cocoa and join the fun.

Event 5th Annual Space Coast Super Boat Grand Prix
Dry Pits The Cove
Location 610 Glen Cheek Dr, Cape Canaveral, FL 32920


Thursday • May 15, 2014
6:00pm-10:00pm High Octane Kick-Off Party – Juice N Java, 75 N Orlando Ave. Cocoa Beach, Food & Drink Meet the Race Teams

Friday • May 16, 2014
9:00 am 5:00 pm Registration: Race Village – Flounder Drive
9:00 am 5:00 pm Inspection: Race Village
9:00 am 6:00 pm Superboats and Race Teams in Dry Pits : Race Village
11:00am 5:00 pm Press Credentials: Race Village
4:00pm 6:00pm Power Pre-Party – Hunker Down 7 S. Atlantic Ave. Cocoa Beach
6:00 pm 10:00 pm Thunder on Cocoa Beach Party Block Party – Meet the Racers Minuteman Causeway
6:00 pm 10:00 pm VIP Party: Meet the Racers – CocoNut’s on the Beach, Cocoa Beach

Saturday • May 17, 2014
8:30 am Mandatory Drivers Meeting: Fishlips Downstairs – 610 Glen Cheek Dr.
9:00 am 5:00 pm Superboats and Race Teams In Dry Pits: Race Village Flounder Dr.
10:00am 2:00pm Dunkers – TBA
10:00am 5:00 pm Registration: Race Village – Flounder Dr. SBI Tent
10:00am 5:00 pm Inspection: Race Village
10:00am 4:00pm Wet / Hot Pit VIP Viewing
12:00pm 4:00 pm Launching: Bluepoints Marina
12:00pm 4:00 pm Testing: As per the SBIP Rulebook
12:00pm 10:00 pm VIP Party – Meet the Racers
6:00 pm 10:00pm Bikini Contest: The Cove
6:00 pm 10:00 pm VIP Party: Meet the Racers -Blake Wise Concert
7:00pm Miss Space Coast Super Boat Bikini Contest Race Village

Sunday • May 18, 2014 – Race Day
7:30 am 8:30 am Physicals: Fishlips – Downstairs
8:30 am Mandatory Driver’s Meeting: Fishlips Waterfront Restaurant – Downstairs
8:00 am 9:00 am Press Credentials: Race Village
9:00 am 4:00 pm Launching : Bluepoints Marina
9:00 am 4:00 pm Superboats in Dry Pits: Race Village
10:00am FAA Pilots Meeting: Merritt Island Airport, 900 Airport Rd. Merritt Island 877-799-9491
11:30pm Boats of First Race Proceed to Milling Area-Cocoa Beach
12:00pm Start of 1st. Race
1:30 pm Boats of Second Race Proceed to Milling Area-Cocoa Beach
2:00 pmStart of 2nd Race
3:00 pm 6:00pm After Burner Party- Hilton Cocoa Beach
6pm Awards Presentation – The Cove Port Canaveral – Millikens Reef

This is an awesome location and great fans, lets get as many SV and put on a show for the fans. All SV fit in the SBI rule book come on guys.

When do we expect to see the "Official" results ?

They should all be up on the SBI web site

Cocoa is always a great warm up for the battle in Sarasota ....

Just wondering about the penalty for SMB, I know the results on the pdf file on Superboat.com still say "unofficial" There is a distinct clear infraction there, and I for one am anxious to see the enforcement.

who is tellin the truth? Blown Motor, or no Blown Motor......that is the question ?

Not to have a pissing match. All I can say is that after 16 years of racing and over 200 starts that we have NEVER blown a stock sealed merc. motor. And I don't know of anyone else that has either. I must have heard bad info on the spec SBI motors. Does my spec merc cost more up front? Hell yes!!!!!! In the end is it worth it. Hell yeah IMO only

To an extent I agree on the engine deal. I am sure the stockish one is more reliable. But also understand the costs involved. Hey, I don't have, and cant afford either, but would probably some day aspire to run an svl. I just think that it is funny, as I wouldn't expect you to post about 3 or 4 supposedly blown motors you heard about, unless you actually heard about them, and heard about one incorrectly, possibly, but heard about three incorrectly, that sounds rare. Then Frank chimes in and says no, no. Nobody has blown an engine. So can't both of you be correct, or, someone maybe did feed bad info, if thats the case, thats even sillier yet. Everyone always talks about these forums etc. but it is hard to garner respect when there is so much he said he said. Wouldn't it be easier if everyone told the same true story to whomever they spoke. Back to my real interest, Hows that "official" results panning out?

Merc does make a good motor no different then Votec or ILMOR but to say they dont blow up is a little crazy. If you remember a few month back there was a very lenghty thread in Genral that you were involved in and Eddie posted tons of pic of 525 that had blown up and were junk. I spoke to him in great lenght about the 525's very interesting he had some great info. you would be suprised how many issue are out there. I think all motors have issue its the nature of the beast. I guess to each there own there are plenty of choices out there. Mike is on his 3rd yr with the motor he got from George in the IMCO boat and he has had no issues and we raced every race last yr other then NY.

All I said is they all finish PC and no one told me about any blown motors, if you watched the video you tell me? Matter of fact 3 of the 4 ran an extra lap.

The video is in, the correct action is proven by the video, just wanna see if it is taken. Yeah, peeling tape, Jim and I would both pull tape, every so often you would get to the end, and one guy is not on the last tape. I learned to pay more attention to the mileage log on the GPS screen. So that way I new if we were close or one lap short. Love that feeling though, when your locked up in a tight battle, where theres so much going on you can't hardly remember to count laps. Thats what its all about. There isn't currently any penalty for running an extra lap, is there?

No Jason I dont think there is... Lol . I know the feeling you just dont want to stop sometimes ....

We knocked the main bearing out of our 525 due to a broken windage tray. Fixed it for about $500 vs Mercury est of $9000.

Cocoa will heat up in the SS class also with Victory in the mix. That class is always awesome to watch they have some many great teams.

Let me be more clear. I have never blown up a merc sealed motor in over 200 races. Yes in recreational use with much higher hours on them then me (over a hundred) hours there needs to be rocker and springs checked or changed in some cases. We all read the thread. My post is about race motors at WOT and what seems to be lasting longer. And please don't tell me you don't know about the other SVL's with blown motors LOL.

Thats awesome you didnt have to have Merc do the repair that would of been some piece of change.

I believe that was a full rebuild price wasn't it. I realize that if you were just repairing it for your own pleasure boat no one in there right mind would send it to Merc for just a repair.

Race boat Mercury had to replace crank rods pistons block re Dyno an reseal. Plus a month of down time. We fixed it using cheap parts store bearings and a used crank. Mercury was great when they were handing out check but times Changed

Lol so true the good old days times have changed.

Just wondering if mercury supports the svl class with money for using their product?

To my knowledge....No. It was many years ago, that I remember seeing the Merc guys at races, but I am unsure of what and when the contingency type deals started or ended.

Steve K did bruise his engine. He was testing post KW and his oil filter housing failed at full RPM. The casting failed in the center at the threaded fitting. By the time it was shut down he had potentially hurt the bearings.
Steve

The Mercury (deals) only started when GM showed up. Mercury was furious that they (GM) gave away hats and food! GM was investing heavily in offshore but after seeing the rantings of the likes of Randy and Bertel on sites like this they realized there were better places to put their resources.
Steve

That's funny Steve. Big Corp GM was brought down by a Randy and Bertal. I had no idea that I could bring down Corp GM. If you believe that you must have had one of the worst business plans known to man kind.Who was GM investing in heavily? A few teams rented Vortec motors from Innovation. I don't even want to go down this road with you. EVERY time I post something about Merc you bring up that I ruined your life card. LOL

But what about the " Official" Finishing results of last weekends SVL race ? been nearly a week, any decisions made?

Everybody knows that THAT boat bought a free pass. Why would you think that there would be a penalty?

[QUOTE=excal27;4107685]Just wondering if mercury supports the svl class with money for using their product?[/QUOT

SBI teams dont get anything from Merc, as far as money or tech support. SBI has 3 other engine builders that have techs at the races and support the team

OPA teams don't get anything from Merc. either. Its been years since Merc pulled out of supporting racing. They used to bring a tractor trailer full of parts and would do work for you if needed. They also had a contingency plan that paid out in the form of credit. When the hard times hit this country it all went away. There are such few teams that run there product in racing as compared to the poker run and recreational market that I believe they put there efforts into selling them. IMO only.

I think that thing is a mess. If it is such a bad a?? boat, then it should be able to pass a competitor without jumping the gun. Furthermore, I think ( and i could be wrong, wasn't there you know ) but the announcers said that it was Doc and Brian Forehand in the boat. This is the Brian Forehand everyone on here likes to raise up high, as the allmighty throttleman of SVL. Well, the guy with the wheel in his hand didn't get the boat to pass the pace boat by sawing the wheel back and forth.

Data logger have been approved (Race Pak ) in 4 classes so SBI can monitor RPM's affective at the Sarasota race race in July. Also spec class motors will be teched and sealed after inspection at no cost to the racers.

Race Pak techs will be at the races offering support to the teams and working with the SBI inspection team.

Brian drives and throttles the boat.

Good move. I like it.

What does Doc do? Watch for the Green Flag?

The RacePak deal is awesome, for those who have not been able to use one before, any logger for that fact has the ability to teach you so much about the boat and how it runs where etc. I think its a great tool for the team, as well as a decent way to tech certain parameters. They would be great tools as well if you had the actuators hooked to drives and tabs etc. for logging of angle adjustments, throttle position etc. In the event of an accident or a even a misstep like a slide or spin, You could go back and look at it and know right where everything was. You could catch stuff like the pilot ran a tab the wrong way, or the drive was too high, low etc. All good tools for future use and improvement. Set up right you can have constant slip % monitoring and combine it with a real time camera system and it will show even more, as well as make some cool videos to provide on social media and to sponsors current and future.

SBI will strictly be monitoring RPM'S at this time. Racers have the ability to buy other accessories at racers discount.

If I can help with that stuff in any way, let me know. I am pretty sure I still have the software ( may need an update ) and I thoroughly enjoy filtering through the info, analyzing laps, testing etc. I would look at stuff and help if I can,