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Xtremeracing 07-29-2014 10:10 AM

Key West 2014
 
Only 4 races left on the regular schedule to quailify for KW this coming yr. All teams MUST race atleast 3 SBI races to race in KW.

F1-00 Racing 07-29-2014 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by Xtremeracing (Post 4161694)
Only 4 races left on the regular schedule to quailify for KW this coming yr. All teams MUST race atleast 3 SBI races to race in KW.

Is there a change coming to the rule book? According to SBI General Rule Book page 56, last paragraph it states the following:

2. Eligibility –
Teams are welcome to race in the 2014 Key West World Championship. A
team qualifies by having raced in the 2013 Key West World Championship, by
racing in any three (3) SBIP races during the 2014 season, or at the discretion of
the SBIP President.

Xtremeracing 07-29-2014 01:50 PM

Only 4 races to go.

extras 07-29-2014 03:34 PM

So you have to race the last four races to go to KW?

IRWIN 07-30-2014 08:10 PM

So if you only race 2 SBI races in 2014 you will not be allowed to race key west?

Xtremeracing 07-30-2014 08:25 PM

According to the rule book, I would call or email SBI.

TYPHOON 07-31-2014 08:07 AM

LOL Has anyone been turned away that wants to race in KW??? The money they collect off you at that race alone covers there bills for the year. Its another way of getting you to go to more event. IMO if its in the rule book then you should stick to those rules NO EXCEPTIONS or take it out of the rules. What would the international teams due then? They don't do 3 races.
Look at it this way. There wouldn't be many boat in KW if you had to run 3 races during the year. I would say there are less than 10-15 teams that would qualify.

Xtremeracing 07-31-2014 01:02 PM

Thinks for all that good info Randy lol,,,,,!

Xtremeracing 07-31-2014 01:08 PM

Its pretty amazing that you know how much SBI collects at the worlds and what his expenses are, to make a statement that its pays his bills for a yr. But as always mis information from you is no suprise, Maybe you should post the balance sheets that you reviewed to make that lol comment.

Xtremeracing 07-31-2014 01:09 PM

I awesome with all ur interest in the tread we will see you in kw.

Xtremeracing 07-31-2014 01:25 PM

While ur at it post the 15 boats that wouldn't qualify for kw, being u said it I'm sure it must be true.
You should read the complete rule Trent posted first.

TYPHOON 07-31-2014 04:10 PM

I have read Trent's post and there is an option that JC can grant anyone the opportunity to race at his discretion. With that one rule then why state you need to race 3 races then? I only commented on your post because to me its pretty insulting to me as a racer that you would post what sounds like a mandatory 3 races to race KW. I know you need boat count but please don't try and shove it down teams throat's. We can all read between the lines when you post.

TYPHOON 07-31-2014 04:12 PM

PS I said there is 10-15 teams that "could" qualify.

TYPHOON 07-31-2014 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by Xtremeracing (Post 4163139)
Its pretty amazing that you know how much SBI collects at the worlds and what his expenses are, to make a statement that its pays his bills for a yr. But as always mis information from you is no suprise, Maybe you should post the balance sheets that you reviewed to make that lol comment.

Frank post the fee's for
Reg.KW
crew
annual boat
tent rental
parade on Duval
VIP section

I will take a stab at it and say the "average" team is writing a check for $7500 to SBI alone. Please respond with the facts/figures since I am just guessing

Xtremeracing 07-31-2014 05:06 PM

The cost of the race is in the $500,000 range some yr a little some a little less. With ur math 50 boats at 7,500 thats $ 375 ,000 so you can figure it out from there I hope.

Xtremeracing 07-31-2014 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by TYPHOON (Post 4163277)
I have read Trent's post and there is an option that JC can grant anyone the opportunity to race at his discretion. With that one rule then why state you need to race 3 races then? I only commented on your post because to me its pretty insulting to me as a racer that you would post what sounds like a mandatory 3 races to race KW. I know you need boat count but please don't try and shove it down teams throat's. We can all read between the lines when you post.

Has nothing to do with trying to get more boats. I have gotten 8 -10 calls the last few wks about KW so just wanted to get the info. out because ppl dont always read the rule book, half of them have already sent emailed to the office and really appreciate the help. Dont want new teams to be disappointed after it was to late to qualify or discuss it with SBI , just showing up doesnt always work the boat might not even fit in the class they think they do for one reason or another thats how you run a business .
But I know you like ur knee jerk reaction, some org are in the panic mode about boat count and others arent.

TYPHOON 07-31-2014 05:19 PM

So you have seen the financials and know this as fact that it cost $500K give or take. Im not an accountant but simple math says get out of the KW race as fast as you can. Looks like a bad investment too me.

Xtremeracing 07-31-2014 05:21 PM

Not as bad as some ppl that have races that get nothing from the cities lol

TYPHOON 07-31-2014 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by Xtremeracing (Post 4163339)
Has nothing to do with trying to get more boats. I have gotten 8 -10 calls the last few wks about KW so just wanted to get the info. out because ppl dont always read the rule book, half of them have already sent emailed to the office and really appreciate the help. Dont want new teams to be disappointed after it was to late to qualify or discuss it with SBI , just showing up doesnt always work the boat might not even fit in the class they think they do for one reason or another thats how you run a business .
But I know you like ur knee jerk reaction, some org are in the panic mode about boat count and others arent.

You are a great ambassador for SBI.

Xtremeracing 07-31-2014 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by TYPHOON (Post 4163340)
So you have seen the financials and know this as fact that it cost $500K give or take. Im not an accountant but simple math says get out of the KW race as fast as you can. Looks like a bad investment too me.

I know my number is right never said ur number was, that was something u pulledout of the air I just used what u said.

Xtremeracing 07-31-2014 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by TYPHOON (Post 4163280)
PS I said there is 10-15 teams that "could" qualify.

Ok 10 or 15 post them.

Xtremeracing 07-31-2014 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by TYPHOON (Post 4163342)
You are a great ambassador for SBI.

You should try it instead of always being so negative.

Xtremeracing 07-31-2014 05:30 PM

Ask Smitty why he doesnt do 3 day Worlds any more, sure he can help you understand.

TYPHOON 07-31-2014 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by Xtremeracing (Post 4163349)
You should try it instead of always being so negative.

Im not negative. Im only stating my feelings when you post crap like you need to race 3 races or else. I like SBI and I have stated many times I like what they do with the live TV. They put on good races at good locations and have had good heads up racing this year. Stop posting fantasy post about how reliable your SV package is and how cheap it is to build your own reliable motor.

Xtremeracing 07-31-2014 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by TYPHOON (Post 4163382)
Im not negative. Im only stating my feelings when you post crap like you need to race 3 races or else. I like SBI and I have stated many times I like what they do with the live TV. They put on good races at good locations and have had good heads up racing this year. Stop posting fantasy post about how reliable your SV package is and how cheap it is to build your own reliable motor.

1 More mis information, whats does a new 525 cost?
2 What does an equivalent motor cost to build from an independent builder. $18,000 - $20,000 NEW

Xtremeracing 07-31-2014 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by TYPHOON (Post 4162969)
LOL Has anyone been turned away that wants to race in KW??? The money they collect off you at that race alone covers there bills for the year. Its another way of getting you to go to more event. IMO if its in the rule book then you should stick to those rules NO EXCEPTIONS or take it out of the rules. What would the international teams due then? They don't do 3 races.
Look at it this way. There wouldn't be many boat in KW if you had to run 3 races during the year. I would say there are less than 10-15 teams that would qualify.

Ok lets break it down:
1 Has anyone ever been turned away. Yes
2 Bills cover for a yr....another lie
3 Another way to get boats...another lie
4 10- 15 boat you know that wouldnt be there...another lie

I post about fantasy REALLY lol.

Xtremeracing 07-31-2014 06:58 PM

You dont even race KW so why do you care, or the the motors. I sure dont care what OPA uses for motor thats for sure .

Xtremeracing 07-31-2014 07:09 PM

Whats really funny is you said the same thing a few yrs back when SBI kicked Merc to the curb and designing the new CARB LOL Superboat motor. Now its the greatest thing out there. Its not rocket science what would make you think it wouldnt work in SV now that it proven. If you want to believe it or not it is half the cost of a merc and I know you dont like that, but not liking it and lying about the truth isnt right.

Greatguy66 07-31-2014 08:09 PM

:chill-pill:Don't know rules or politics but Keys is a great event to go to for the next few years!If it moves to Clearwater I will attend also!I'm sure they make a few bucks or they whould not have it?:cheer:

TYPHOON 08-01-2014 08:25 AM

Frank you are so far out in left field I almost feel sorry for you. You information and what you think you know is so bogus EVERYONE knows you are drinking the Kool-Aid. Please don't drag SBI into this. My beef is with your misleading information you post.

TYPHOON 08-01-2014 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by Xtremeracing (Post 4163389)
1 More mis information, whats does a new 525 cost?
2 What does an equivalent motor cost to build from an independent builder. $18,000 - $20,000 NEW

1. I have no idea. I thought you posted they were out of production.
2. You said equivalent. As far as I know the only other manufacture that comes close to a "proven" tested, internal water cooled, guardian mode, EFI would be Illmore. I don't know what they cost. If you are saying a plain carb motor with good parts then we are not talking about equivalent packages. The only thing that may be equivalent is the HP

Xtremeracing 08-01-2014 08:43 AM

Now that we can move on and get back to the thread. Anyone that has any question or need any help email or call the SBI office and they will be happy to try and work with you if possible.

Xtremeracing 08-01-2014 09:19 AM

I just got caught up and replied to all ur emails. Sorry for the distraction, and to answer all you questions I'm not quite sure myself what that was all about or the point of it myself.

TYPHOON 08-01-2014 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by Xtremeracing (Post 4163656)
I just got caught up and replied to all ur emails. Sorry for the distraction, and to answer all you questions I'm not quite sure myself what that was all about or the point of it myself.

That must have taken 30 seconds LOL

Xtremeracing 08-01-2014 04:15 PM

No your not negitive, lol....you shouldnt let in bother you so much that you cant be in kw.

fastedy 08-02-2014 02:09 PM

Thanks for letting us know about the three race
minimum. Team Cisco was looking forward to racing in class 4 in Key West.. But with this said I guess we will not be attending..

Xtremeracing 08-02-2014 03:40 PM

Hopefully another time, you can prepare in advance. P4 is an awesome class with some great teams usually 8- 10 teams in KW.

Donzi ZX 08-03-2014 06:27 AM

So I guess ENVY will not be racing in KW? ;)

Xtremeracing 08-03-2014 08:43 AM

I believe Chris will be there, not sure if the boat will be ready you might want to check with him.

bwd 08-03-2014 08:56 AM

Not to take away from Frank's intimate knowledge of SBI goings on but I would call JC directly and ask. Its been my experience, though limited, that he can be quite accommodating . There are quite a few teams as I recall that never raced one race with SBI but still ran KW. The Microlink Phantom comes to mind, recently. The year before, The Rum Runners Scarab ran P4 and I never saw him that year at any events. I think as long as you raced somewhere a few times this year he would let you in. I have found him quite cordial over the phone before and even calls back if you leave a msg. If I had an exra 9-10k hangin around and some spare drives ,I'd go. It never hurts to call. BW


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