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Who won SVL?
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Originally Posted by Gordo
(Post 4325997)
Who won SVL?
The only team that raced,,, he won |
Originally Posted by Saratoga Stamped
(Post 4326016)
SV/SVL:
The only team that raced,,, he won |
Originally Posted by Saratoga Stamped
(Post 4326016)
SV/SVL:
The only team that raced,,, he won 2 Vortec's 1 hp500 bumped 1 525 efi bumped 3 legal sealed motor Looks like Steve is the only one who raced this weekend, the others put on an exhibition cause certainly there were no rules followed |
Originally Posted by F1-00 Racing
(Post 4326026)
I have to give Steve credit, did you see the lineup at the other so called "race"?
2 Vortec's 1 hp500 bumped 1 525 efi bumped 3 legal sealed motor Looks like Steve is the only one who raced this weekend, the others put on an exhibition cause certainly there were no rules followed but he likes a fair race . the new hull hes stills dialing in no doubt , but the worlds this past year proved its the fastest legal boat . I know he ran alone today , but he gave a show for the crowd anyway . |
Did Snowy Mountain fail tech?
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Originally Posted by F1-00 Racing
(Post 4326026)
I have to give Steve credit, did you see the lineup at the other so called "race"?
2 Vortec's 1 hp500 bumped 1 525 efi bumped 3 legal sealed motor Looks like Steve is the only one who raced this weekend, the others put on an exhibition cause certainly there were no rules followed |
Originally Posted by klaatutooyou
(Post 4326029)
Yup . steves top notch in my book . He pushes the limits for sure .
but he likes a fair race . the new hull hes stills dialing in no doubt , but the worlds this past year proved its the fastest legal boat . I know he ran alone today , but he gave a show for the crowd anyway . |
Whatever Randy.... You are Mr OSS and you have said time and time again that OSS has the best tech ever in offshore..They all wore OSS bracelets all weekend and I have said from day one OSS part 2. Bandit, Mr Technology, and No Vacancy showed up to run in P4...your on facebook you should know this and Chris has stated it on here..God bless them for showing up, I sent my donation to the Suncoast Foundation cause its all about the kids right? Its no different than your staged race in OB 2010 that when Smitty called and invited 2 more teams, your boys turned them away costing the organization $17,000 from not making the minimum boat count per the contract
Just as your race 1 "staged race" this was nothing but an exhibition and the word exhibition was stated to me by one of the participants, one of the legal per OPGP rules competitors |
Originally Posted by Saratoga Stamped
(Post 4326016)
SV/SVL:
The only team that raced,,, he won |
Originally Posted by TYPHOON
(Post 4326055)
. You should be mad at SBI then !
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Originally Posted by F1-00 Racing
(Post 4326075)
Whatever Randy.... You are Mr OSS and you have said time and time again that OSS has the best tech ever in offshore..They all wore OSS bracelets all weekend and I have said from day one OSS part 2. Bandit, Mr Technology, and No Vacancy showed up to run in P4...your on facebook you should know this and Chris has stated it on here..God bless them for showing up, I sent my donation to the Suncoast Foundation cause its all about the kids right? Its no different than your staged race in OB 2010 that when Smitty called and invited 2 more teams, your boys turned them away costing the organization $17,000 from not making the minimum boat count per the contract
Just as your race 1 "staged race" this was nothing but an exhibition and the word exhibition was stated to me by one of the participants, one of the legal per OPGP rules competitors |
How in the world is that racing?
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Ya know what I took away from yesterdays events? Don't be a dick.... It doesn't play well in the eyes of the masses.
People more often attend the venue rather than the event. A city like Bristol TN could swap out their NASCAR race with a duck f@#%ing exhibit and the crowds would still be huge. Pretty certain the beach front head counts confirmed that theory yesterday. Everyone needs to play nice, and at a minimum, avoid going head to head on freaking schedules. Even the poker run planners can understand why that's a bad idea.. |
:thankyouthankyou:
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Randy likes controlled races at full speed (staged races) and rules (the ones that can't be enforced and the ones that aren't enforced). You are the best Randy.
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Originally Posted by klaatutooyou
(Post 4326236)
How in the world is that racing?
:picard1: |
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Originally Posted by TYPHOON
(Post 4326229)
Where do you come up with this stuff LOL. I don't due face Book. I have an account but never write or go on it. 2nd this is the first I have heard its the SVL's fault for a lose of $17K at a race LOL Smitty stuck to the rules of the class is that a bad thing now?. 3rd the race was a OPG (sp) run by ex OSS officials. The OB race in 2010 was a 2 race event that on the first day the class agreed to put on a controlled race at full speed with the intension of not destroying our equipment on day one and doing something for the sport that was needed (close racing) that the fans wanted to see. This was all achieved and MANY people said it was the best racing they have seen in years. Then a few A holes decided they needed to report to the world that it was "staged" and a bad thing for the sport to put on a close race. I can assure you KNOW ONE knew who was going to win what you called a "staged race".
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If you read the article Joe Sgro said it best, about running under one head because of the limited group we are. Not sure what OPGP was thinking, starting another organization ??
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Originally Posted by Xtremeracing
(Post 4327006)
If you read the article Joe Sgro said it best, about running under one head because of the limited group we are. Not sure what OPGP was thinking, starting another organization ??
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Originally Posted by Xtremeracing
(Post 4327002)
I agree with you Smitty stuck to the rules, with that being said why did he call George and Steve to travel all the way up there just to be turned around if that was his intention ???
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Why would he say that OPGP has folded. From what i understand they r a 1 and done.
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Simple answer to the question would be nice. Reason why u cant is you know that it wasnt Smitty it was u that forced him into it. He wouldnt of called them and made them travel all that distance if he had no intentions of letting them race, i know him better then that.
Not rehashing just trying to get the facts out to everyone so they see it for what it is. |
Originally Posted by TYPHOON
(Post 4326892)
I would like to know what you call the 2 CMS boats and the single SVL entry in the Marahton race ?????????? How in the world is that racing as you would say.
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Originally Posted by TYPHOON
(Post 4327102)
Please tell me we are not rehashing 5 years ago again !!!!!
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Originally Posted by TYPHOON
(Post 4326892)
I would like to know what you call the 2 CMS boats and the single SVL entry in the Marahton race ?????????? How in the world is that racing as you would say.
You were really a part of racing in the f-1 days . But you have done nothing but take svl apart since day one . |
Originally Posted by extras
(Post 4327211)
You were a dick five years ago and still are one. You were the one to get the club racers together and *****ed to Smitty like little girls. Knowing that you wouldn't stand a chance against George and Steve. You only want what's best for Randy not SVL.
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Originally Posted by klaatutooyou
(Post 4327248)
I think frank answered that truthfully.
You were really a part of racing in the f-1 days . But you have done nothing but take svl apart since day one . |
I'll tell you what came up at the OPGP drivers meeting. My boat and few others with SBI motors were registered for P4. At the meeting we were told because of boat count numbers we would all have to run svl class together. The method for parity would be that 3 boats in attendance with sealed motors would run 1 short lap which would be the second lap and the 4 others would run full laps. All agreed, including the officials that this was not an ideal situation especially with this being a purse race. BUT, we were also told as racers to sit down and figure out an engine package for all to use and put us,back on an even playing field. Looks like SBI are already on top of this. The 525efi is no longer available new so the reality is you cannot continue to have a discontinued motor as a spec motor where brand new boats are entering a class. I for one do not want to build a race engine package with used parts. If I can't call a manufacturer and have a replacement sent to me right away it shouldn't be used in a spec class. Entering with a New boat and having to search the classifieds for used parts to make it race ready is not moving forward but moving backwards. 525 owners could dump their engines right now and have a new spec motor built with change in their pocket. Then we could all race together in harmony. A couple of those sealed motor guys at Sarasota could of swapped out to their big motors and changed up the final positions.
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Originally Posted by Vortec Bandit
(Post 4327333)
I'll tell you what came up at the OPGP drivers meeting. My boat and few others with SBI motors were registered for P4. At the meeting we were told because of boat count numbers we would all have to run svl class together. The method for parity would be that 3 boats in attendance with sealed motors would run 1 short lap which would be the second lap and the 4 others would run full laps. All agreed, including the officials that this was not an ideal situation especially with this being a purse race. BUT, we were also told as racers to sit down and figure out an engine package for all to use and put us,back on an even playing field. Looks like SBI are already on top of this. The 525efi is no longer available new so the reality is you cannot continue to have a discontinued motor as a spec motor where brand new boats are entering a class. I for one do not want to build a race engine package with used parts. If I can't call a manufacturer and have a replacement sent to me right away it shouldn't be used in a spec class. Entering with a New boat and having to search the classifieds for used parts to make it race ready is not moving forward but moving backwards. 525 owners could dump their engines right now and have a new spec motor built with change in their pocket. Then we could all race together in harmony. A couple of those sealed motor guys at Sarasota could of swapped out to their big motors and changed up the final positions.
The situation where we are with no availability of the sealed motors from Merc anymore sucks. I have raced with both and they both have their pro's and cons. If you were in Sarasota I think you would agree that Sarasota Ford and LSB were the race of the class, and both have sealed motors. Smokin Joe's would have also been in the mix (with the same power) if they didn't have their non-boat related issues. The rest of the fleet was pretty spread out after that. And short compared to long laps or not, it was very clear what the difference was between a boat running flat out with a sealed motor compared to a boat with an SBI motor. I have seen what some people are saying about this being an exhibition, and guys not running flat out, etc, blah blah blah.. Well you guys are all dip$hits and need to stay here on the computer and away from racing. cuz #1 you don't know what you're talking about and probably weren't there, and #2 you must have done a lot of "exhibition" races yourself because I don't know of ANY TRUE RACER who doesn't get in that boat and run that ***** flat out! That is the only way to run and I can guarantee you with money on the line and any kind of competition, You are gonna run flat out no matter what. My $.02 Oh yeah, and Randy is a Dick.. haha |
I'm with you. I did mean that they could have if they chose to change motors. Wasn't implying they did.
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I have to agree with Kevin the first day in kw the first few laps before Kev lost his hatch was some exciting all out wide open race. If Kev didnt have a issue in the harbor and we did have our issues i would of like to seen the drag race to the finish.
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Either way a great race. And a Thank You to LSB for the loaner prop and Smokin Joe's for the slings.
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Originally Posted by TYPHOON
(Post 4327250)
Not sure what you don't get about spec racing. Do you think for one minute that APBA back in the Factory days would let in a non conforming boat just to build boat count? Both those boats were not legal per the spec rule book. If you don't get that then I cant help your stupidity. I know you are rather new to the sport so I understand your lack of knowledge.
In the attached link showing the results, it shows you won both days with the exact finishing order on both days, however, I know for a fact Pirate was the "controlled race" 1 winner http://www.oparacing.org/results_2010.html |
and Kevin when I used the word, "exhibition" I never implied they didnt run full out. But in reality, with OPGP being a one and done series hence no points, yeah a bunch of prize monies but in the past most of the SBI teams donated their winnings to the Kids, IMO with the race being broadcast on CBS Sports next week they had to have a showcased class to show with a quantity of boats and P4 wasnt what they wanted. A competitor that raced in Sarasota even posted on my teams FB page , "You should have came to Sarasota, it's run what ya brung"
OK just as Randy likes to twist words when I say staged, he says "controlled race" I apologize for my use of the word "exhibition" as my intention was it nothing more than the Bud Shootout before Daytona and the Charlotte All Star Races are only "exhibition" races in Nascar with the teams racing all out for money and pride, yet they are all "so the rule book says" legal and equal. If you have any suggestions of any word that I can use different, by all means i am all ears |
Originally Posted by Vortec Bandit
(Post 4327360)
I'm with you. I did mean that they could have if they chose to change motors. Wasn't implying they did.
Oh no, ur fine Man, I got ya! It was good to see your boat finally out there, it looked great, obviously a lot of hours went into it. Hopefully we'll get to see more of you guys this season. |
The only guy's complaining about me are SBI loyalist that want to build there own motors. Sooooo again stay where you are happy. I prefer OPA/APBA so that's where I race. If at some point I race in SBI I will follow there rules. This doesn't have to be a pissing match.
I thought but not certain that Time Bandit won that race in OB first day. |
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