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Xtremeracing 07-02-2015 07:29 PM

Marathon live stream
 
SBI will have live stream for this Sundays races, check the web site for more info on all the action. Also shooting for up coming NBC broadcasts.

speicher lane 07-04-2015 08:21 AM

http://livestream.com/sbi/marathon2015

Gordo 07-05-2015 12:23 PM

Who won SVL?

Saratoga Stamped 07-05-2015 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by Gordo (Post 4325997)
Who won SVL?

SV/SVL:
The only team that raced,,, he won

klaatutooyou 07-05-2015 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by Saratoga Stamped (Post 4326016)
SV/SVL:
The only team that raced,,, he won

Yup . But he still ran it hard . That boat looks awesome while running .

F1-00 Racing 07-05-2015 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by Saratoga Stamped (Post 4326016)
SV/SVL:
The only team that raced,,, he won

I have to give Steve credit, did you see the lineup at the other so called "race"?
2 Vortec's
1 hp500 bumped
1 525 efi bumped
3 legal sealed motor

Looks like Steve is the only one who raced this weekend, the others put on an exhibition cause certainly there were no rules followed

klaatutooyou 07-05-2015 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by F1-00 Racing (Post 4326026)
I have to give Steve credit, did you see the lineup at the other so called "race"?
2 Vortec's
1 hp500 bumped
1 525 efi bumped
3 legal sealed motor

Looks like Steve is the only one who raced this weekend, the others put on an exhibition cause certainly there were no rules followed

Yup . steves top notch in my book . He pushes the limits for sure .
but he likes a fair race .
the new hull hes stills dialing in no doubt , but the worlds this past year proved its the fastest legal boat .

I know he ran alone today , but he gave a show for the crowd anyway .

excal27 07-05-2015 05:01 PM

Did Snowy Mountain fail tech?

TYPHOON 07-05-2015 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by F1-00 Racing (Post 4326026)
I have to give Steve credit, did you see the lineup at the other so called "race"?
2 Vortec's
1 hp500 bumped
1 525 efi bumped
3 legal sealed motor

Looks like Steve is the only one who raced this weekend, the others put on an exhibition cause certainly there were no rules followed

What a $hitty thing to say! The teams traveled to be there on a 4th of July weekend and you called it an exhibition, I bet they were all full stick doing there best against everyone else. Your giving credit to the team that raced unopposed? Am I missing something? Yes I am a rules guy but please don't shoot the players.

TYPHOON 07-05-2015 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by klaatutooyou (Post 4326029)
Yup . steves top notch in my book . He pushes the limits for sure .
but he likes a fair race .
the new hull hes stills dialing in no doubt , but the worlds this past year proved its the fastest legal boat .

I know he ran alone today , but he gave a show for the crowd anyway .

Until someone fails tec that's a bold statement. Its not the racers who do tec its the org. You should be mad at SBI then !

F1-00 Racing 07-05-2015 07:07 PM

Whatever Randy.... You are Mr OSS and you have said time and time again that OSS has the best tech ever in offshore..They all wore OSS bracelets all weekend and I have said from day one OSS part 2. Bandit, Mr Technology, and No Vacancy showed up to run in P4...your on facebook you should know this and Chris has stated it on here..God bless them for showing up, I sent my donation to the Suncoast Foundation cause its all about the kids right? Its no different than your staged race in OB 2010 that when Smitty called and invited 2 more teams, your boys turned them away costing the organization $17,000 from not making the minimum boat count per the contract

Just as your race 1 "staged race" this was nothing but an exhibition and the word exhibition was stated to me by one of the participants, one of the legal per OPGP rules competitors

Norman Bates 07-05-2015 10:24 PM


Originally Posted by Saratoga Stamped (Post 4326016)
SV/SVL:
The only team that raced,,, he won

Perhaps other team{s} were hesitant to compete due to tech inspection concerns?

klaatutooyou 07-06-2015 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by TYPHOON (Post 4326055)
. You should be mad at SBI then !

I,m not mad at anyone .I even have intense feelings for you lol .

TYPHOON 07-06-2015 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by F1-00 Racing (Post 4326075)
Whatever Randy.... You are Mr OSS and you have said time and time again that OSS has the best tech ever in offshore..They all wore OSS bracelets all weekend and I have said from day one OSS part 2. Bandit, Mr Technology, and No Vacancy showed up to run in P4...your on facebook you should know this and Chris has stated it on here..God bless them for showing up, I sent my donation to the Suncoast Foundation cause its all about the kids right? Its no different than your staged race in OB 2010 that when Smitty called and invited 2 more teams, your boys turned them away costing the organization $17,000 from not making the minimum boat count per the contract

Just as your race 1 "staged race" this was nothing but an exhibition and the word exhibition was stated to me by one of the participants, one of the legal per OPGP rules competitors

Where do you come up with this stuff LOL. I don't due face Book. I have an account but never write or go on it. 2nd this is the first I have heard its the SVL's fault for a lose of $17K at a race LOL Smitty stuck to the rules of the class is that a bad thing now?. 3rd the race was a OPG (sp) run by ex OSS officials. The OB race in 2010 was a 2 race event that on the first day the class agreed to put on a controlled race at full speed with the intension of not destroying our equipment on day one and doing something for the sport that was needed (close racing) that the fans wanted to see. This was all achieved and MANY people said it was the best racing they have seen in years. Then a few A holes decided they needed to report to the world that it was "staged" and a bad thing for the sport to put on a close race. I can assure you KNOW ONE knew who was going to win what you called a "staged race".

klaatutooyou 07-06-2015 09:28 AM

How in the world is that racing?
:picard1:

kidturbo 07-06-2015 11:46 AM

Ya know what I took away from yesterdays events? Don't be a dick.... It doesn't play well in the eyes of the masses.

People more often attend the venue rather than the event. A city like Bristol TN could swap out their NASCAR race with a duck f@#%ing exhibit and the crowds would still be huge. Pretty certain the beach front head counts confirmed that theory yesterday. Everyone needs to play nice, and at a minimum, avoid going head to head on freaking schedules. Even the poker run planners can understand why that's a bad idea..

klaatutooyou 07-06-2015 12:05 PM

:thankyouthankyou:

extras 07-07-2015 11:36 AM

Randy likes controlled races at full speed (staged races) and rules (the ones that can't be enforced and the ones that aren't enforced). You are the best Randy.

TYPHOON 07-07-2015 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by klaatutooyou (Post 4326236)
How in the world is that racing?
:picard1:

I would like to know what you call the 2 CMS boats and the single SVL entry in the Marahton race ?????????? How in the world is that racing as you would say.

Xtremeracing 07-07-2015 05:31 PM

Check this out?

http://m.heraldtribune.com/fullstory...nist/150709833

Xtremeracing 07-07-2015 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by TYPHOON (Post 4326229)
Where do you come up with this stuff LOL. I don't due face Book. I have an account but never write or go on it. 2nd this is the first I have heard its the SVL's fault for a lose of $17K at a race LOL Smitty stuck to the rules of the class is that a bad thing now?. 3rd the race was a OPG (sp) run by ex OSS officials. The OB race in 2010 was a 2 race event that on the first day the class agreed to put on a controlled race at full speed with the intension of not destroying our equipment on day one and doing something for the sport that was needed (close racing) that the fans wanted to see. This was all achieved and MANY people said it was the best racing they have seen in years. Then a few A holes decided they needed to report to the world that it was "staged" and a bad thing for the sport to put on a close race. I can assure you KNOW ONE knew who was going to win what you called a "staged race".

I agree with you Smitty stuck to the rules, with that being said why did he call George and Steve to travel all the way up there just to be turned around if that was his intention ???

Xtremeracing 07-07-2015 05:48 PM

If you read the article Joe Sgro said it best, about running under one head because of the limited group we are. Not sure what OPGP was thinking, starting another organization ??

TYPHOON 07-07-2015 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by Xtremeracing (Post 4327006)
If you read the article Joe Sgro said it best, about running under one head because of the limited group we are. Not sure what OPGP was thinking, starting another organization ??

Maybe he was saying the one head should be OPGP.

TYPHOON 07-07-2015 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by Xtremeracing (Post 4327002)
I agree with you Smitty stuck to the rules, with that being said why did he call George and Steve to travel all the way up there just to be turned around if that was his intention ???

Please tell me we are not rehashing 5 years ago again !!!!!

Xtremeracing 07-07-2015 08:27 PM

Why would he say that OPGP has folded. From what i understand they r a 1 and done.

Xtremeracing 07-07-2015 08:35 PM

Simple answer to the question would be nice. Reason why u cant is you know that it wasnt Smitty it was u that forced him into it. He wouldnt of called them and made them travel all that distance if he had no intentions of letting them race, i know him better then that.

Not rehashing just trying to get the facts out to everyone so they see it for what it is.

extras 07-08-2015 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by TYPHOON (Post 4326892)
I would like to know what you call the 2 CMS boats and the single SVL entry in the Marahton race ?????????? How in the world is that racing as you would say.

Randy there were five Superboat Unlimited boats registered. Performance Marine, Envy, GEICO, CMS 3, CMS 03. Just because three boats scratched should CMS have gone home? At least Sunprint went to a real race not a exhibition with no tech. Just about as much tech as the SVL club.

extras 07-08-2015 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by TYPHOON (Post 4327102)
Please tell me we are not rehashing 5 years ago again !!!!!

You were a dick five years ago and still are one. You were the one to get the club racers together and *****ed to Smitty like little girls. Knowing that you wouldn't stand a chance against George and Steve. You only want what's best for Randy not SVL.

klaatutooyou 07-08-2015 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by TYPHOON (Post 4326892)
I would like to know what you call the 2 CMS boats and the single SVL entry in the Marahton race ?????????? How in the world is that racing as you would say.

I think frank answered that truthfully.

You were really a part of racing in the f-1 days .
But you have done nothing but take svl apart since day one .

TYPHOON 07-08-2015 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by extras (Post 4327211)
You were a dick five years ago and still are one. You were the one to get the club racers together and *****ed to Smitty like little girls. Knowing that you wouldn't stand a chance against George and Steve. You only want what's best for Randy not SVL.

Not sure what you don't get about spec racing. Do you think for one minute that APBA back in the Factory days would let in a non conforming boat just to build boat count? Both those boats were not legal per the spec rule book. If you don't get that then I cant help your stupidity. I know you are rather new to the sport so I understand your lack of knowledge.

TYPHOON 07-08-2015 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by klaatutooyou (Post 4327248)
I think frank answered that truthfully.

You were really a part of racing in the f-1 days .
But you have done nothing but take svl apart since day one .

If trying to have fair spec rules and keeping to the original Merc. spec motor then yes I am guilty.

Vortec Bandit 07-08-2015 10:22 AM

I'll tell you what came up at the OPGP drivers meeting. My boat and few others with SBI motors were registered for P4. At the meeting we were told because of boat count numbers we would all have to run svl class together. The method for parity would be that 3 boats in attendance with sealed motors would run 1 short lap which would be the second lap and the 4 others would run full laps. All agreed, including the officials that this was not an ideal situation especially with this being a purse race. BUT, we were also told as racers to sit down and figure out an engine package for all to use and put us,back on an even playing field. Looks like SBI are already on top of this. The 525efi is no longer available new so the reality is you cannot continue to have a discontinued motor as a spec motor where brand new boats are entering a class. I for one do not want to build a race engine package with used parts. If I can't call a manufacturer and have a replacement sent to me right away it shouldn't be used in a spec class. Entering with a New boat and having to search the classifieds for used parts to make it race ready is not moving forward but moving backwards. 525 owners could dump their engines right now and have a new spec motor built with change in their pocket. Then we could all race together in harmony. A couple of those sealed motor guys at Sarasota could of swapped out to their big motors and changed up the final positions.

TUGGIT 07-08-2015 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by Vortec Bandit (Post 4327333)
I'll tell you what came up at the OPGP drivers meeting. My boat and few others with SBI motors were registered for P4. At the meeting we were told because of boat count numbers we would all have to run svl class together. The method for parity would be that 3 boats in attendance with sealed motors would run 1 short lap which would be the second lap and the 4 others would run full laps. All agreed, including the officials that this was not an ideal situation especially with this being a purse race. BUT, we were also told as racers to sit down and figure out an engine package for all to use and put us,back on an even playing field. Looks like SBI are already on top of this. The 525efi is no longer available new so the reality is you cannot continue to have a discontinued motor as a spec motor where brand new boats are entering a class. I for one do not want to build a race engine package with used parts. If I can't call a manufacturer and have a replacement sent to me right away it shouldn't be used in a spec class. Entering with a New boat and having to search the classifieds for used parts to make it race ready is not moving forward but moving backwards. 525 owners could dump their engines right now and have a new spec motor built with change in their pocket. Then we could all race together in harmony. A couple of those sealed motor guys at Sarasota could of swapped out to their big motors and changed up the final positions.

I was on board with ya till the last sentence.. At least 2 of these boats with stock motors have an SBI motor and COULD have run them if They had known what they were racing against. BUT, as you said at the last minute the decision was made to run like this and it was what it was. Personally I think it was $hitty because the guys were again promised X amt. of $$ to race in a certain class, they get there and it is changed, Period. I don't know all of the reasons behind what prompted this format so I am not putting blame anywhere, I'm sure there was a reason.

The situation where we are with no availability of the sealed motors from Merc anymore sucks. I have raced with both and they both have their pro's and cons. If you were in Sarasota I think you would agree that Sarasota Ford and LSB were the race of the class, and both have sealed motors. Smokin Joe's would have also been in the mix (with the same power) if they didn't have their non-boat related issues. The rest of the fleet was pretty spread out after that. And short compared to long laps or not, it was very clear what the difference was between a boat running flat out with a sealed motor compared to a boat with an SBI motor. I have seen what some people are saying about this being an exhibition, and guys not running flat out, etc, blah blah blah..
Well you guys are all dip$hits and need to stay here on the computer and away from racing. cuz #1 you don't know what you're talking about and probably weren't there, and #2 you must have done a lot of "exhibition" races yourself because I don't know of ANY TRUE RACER who doesn't get in that boat and run that ***** flat out! That is the only way to run and I can guarantee you with money on the line and any kind of competition, You are gonna run flat out no matter what. My $.02

Oh yeah, and Randy is a Dick.. haha

Vortec Bandit 07-08-2015 11:51 AM

I'm with you. I did mean that they could have if they chose to change motors. Wasn't implying they did.

Xtremeracing 07-08-2015 11:53 AM

I have to agree with Kevin the first day in kw the first few laps before Kev lost his hatch was some exciting all out wide open race. If Kev didnt have a issue in the harbor and we did have our issues i would of like to seen the drag race to the finish.

Vortec Bandit 07-08-2015 11:54 AM

Either way a great race. And a Thank You to LSB for the loaner prop and Smokin Joe's for the slings.

F1-00 Racing 07-08-2015 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by TYPHOON (Post 4327250)
Not sure what you don't get about spec racing. Do you think for one minute that APBA back in the Factory days would let in a non conforming boat just to build boat count? Both those boats were not legal per the spec rule book. If you don't get that then I cant help your stupidity. I know you are rather new to the sport so I understand your lack of knowledge.

How were George and Steve not legal? and you ask me where I come up with my stuff? Its called facts backed up with proof. How were they not legal when in fact Sunprint competed in SIB earlier that year and Imco competed in SIB and St Clair without disqualification? Yet a 98 mph svl(check the OPA record book for 2007) was allowed to compete in your staged, oops excuse me controled race that hadn't run all year? You say Smitty followed the rules when in fact there were no rules for OPA SVL 2010 and they were released for 2011 and some of the highlights of those rules was that the motor be sent to Wazzup Racing Engines to be dynoed and sealed and the best rule of them all that year, all trailer tires must have 35 PSI. The contract for OB was 1000 per boat, if OPA was able to bring 35 or above it would go to 50,000. Fact of the matter, this was announced right here on OSO and you made the suggestion that the left over monies be divided amongst the champions. Smitty called these teams as he was looking out for the benefit and health of his organization, kudos to Smitty and I really respect him that he took the heat for you and your flocks decision to stage a race, oops I mean controlled race and to turn boats away. I guess the IMCO boat screeching through the pits almost hitting my hydro display was cause he was happy to see you? Short memory Randy? Instead of the here and now and you being so self serving, why dont you think about today but keep tomorrow in mind? Your nearsightedness and self serving has destroyed the class before, then that flock sold their boats to fresh meat and you got your claws into them, they are learning quick to your antics and it wont be long before you are faced with new victims that dont know any better for you to screw the class up again..I got a call just last week that you had informed a team that the SBI motors are 150 hp higher than those of OPA.. Knowing I had stock sealed 525's in the Formula i raced, my dyno numbers for the motors were 567 & 568 respectively..My new SBI spec motor just dynoed out at 608.. 40 hp is a far cry from 150 hp.... Quit with your lies, they were old 15 years ago, same song, different station.

In the attached link showing the results, it shows you won both days with the exact finishing order on both days, however, I know for a fact Pirate was the "controlled race" 1 winner

http://www.oparacing.org/results_2010.html

F1-00 Racing 07-08-2015 12:38 PM

and Kevin when I used the word, "exhibition" I never implied they didnt run full out. But in reality, with OPGP being a one and done series hence no points, yeah a bunch of prize monies but in the past most of the SBI teams donated their winnings to the Kids, IMO with the race being broadcast on CBS Sports next week they had to have a showcased class to show with a quantity of boats and P4 wasnt what they wanted. A competitor that raced in Sarasota even posted on my teams FB page , "You should have came to Sarasota, it's run what ya brung"

OK just as Randy likes to twist words when I say staged, he says "controlled race" I apologize for my use of the word "exhibition" as my intention was it nothing more than the Bud Shootout before Daytona and the Charlotte All Star Races are only "exhibition" races in Nascar with the teams racing all out for money and pride, yet they are all "so the rule book says" legal and equal. If you have any suggestions of any word that I can use different, by all means i am all ears

TUGGIT 07-08-2015 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by Vortec Bandit (Post 4327360)
I'm with you. I did mean that they could have if they chose to change motors. Wasn't implying they did.


Oh no, ur fine Man, I got ya! It was good to see your boat finally out there, it looked great, obviously a lot of hours went into it. Hopefully we'll get to see more of you guys this season.

TYPHOON 07-08-2015 03:58 PM

The only guy's complaining about me are SBI loyalist that want to build there own motors. Sooooo again stay where you are happy. I prefer OPA/APBA so that's where I race. If at some point I race in SBI I will follow there rules. This doesn't have to be a pissing match.
I thought but not certain that Time Bandit won that race in OB first day.


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