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mike,

need and answer on the props. plus how is this for f2. a straight weight of 8000 lbs accross the board.

well mike it looks like we are are ready. looks like you have your supporters. so lets make deciscions in the next week or two so we can have our boats ready.

Treadwell

Daytona is perfect for me - anytime! I also have a few extra bedrooms beachside for you guy's. Let's do this! BH

"Merry Christmas even you Gino!"

Even on the West Coast we can feel the love.

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Thanks Steve,
d-law....I think I left about $1,000 their in April....or maybe thats what I spent...either way say when and I'm their....
Well said Jim....

Mike,
I don't know how many feel that way.....so I won't speculate....but I could not get answers about the same issues for long enough and the way the e-mail reads It sure sounds like abunch will be racing somewhere else....from some....but I have been told by alot of others they will not go that way....so I'm going to take a stand and say I will race APBA....especially when I'm told I look like a fool for carrying the APBA banner....and I like what I'm seeing here......I will save the e-mails so I'm not called a lier......
I'm seeing whats going on with some of the SVL's and some of the F1's and its not what we all agreed.....
Tred. has a good question about props. would it be open for 4 and 5 blades or be current to the prop rules as of now.....
Gino

Much like Mike A.'s idea of a cash infusion into the sport.... I would like to point out that any cash spent at the club will directly benefit the sport as well in the form of racing capital for the team and in the total satisfaction you will have when leaving. This is truly a win/win situation where unification is the goal!!!

Gino and Tread,

The first draft of the rules limit props to 4 blades. You do not want to complicate the class for new teams. When we first started in F1 we threw the same blade 25" on for every race. We never should have allowed the prop rules to get out of control. KISS = keep it simple stupid. I suggest you keep it simple but at the end of the day it will be the owners' choice. Tell us what you all want and we will write the rules.

As for what the rookies are doing with their private emails and private agendas here is what I say: screw them. Let them leave as we have decided to do with the Boycotters. The case against stealing our rules, classes, venues and series names has been made perfectly clear. If they refuse to see it we should not want them around. I certainly do not.

We should concern ourselves more with the guys who have been racing longer - real racers not guys who quit because they refuse to put the work in to get better or cannot guarantee themselves a first place every time out. They are NOT racers and never will be. You, Randy, Glen, BC, Hollis, the Legouris, Mark, Gordo, et. al. You boys are racers. So let's go race.

When we created our competition based rules model we did so with the confidence that if we built it they would come. Well, we are confident that if you guys say go on this, new and old racers will come. Focus on that. Trying to make 525's and 500's work is a failed formula now so let these guys go off and do it if they want.

There are plenty of racers out there and we already have many of them. So does SBI and OPA. We need to concentrate on bringing them to the sport. Give us the word and we will do it. Hell, we will offer it to John too if he wants it. Just say HELL NO TO OSS!

Mike

Agreed.

Hey guys,

I am glad to see everyone working together to better F1 and F2 classes.

As a Manufacture I am all for bringing more boats and manufactures back in to Factory class racing like years past and we will support the class and its racers.

I have been a past racer in F1 and this past season in F2.

I remember in the mid 90s running in A-class in a 28' powered by a 600 HP motor and racing with 18 other A -class boats at the Miami APBA national in 2 footers running well into the mid 80s.There was a few 26' Corsas, 26' Velocity, 28' Powerplay, Scorpion 24 , and myself in a 28' Pantera.By the time we got to the first turn we had sufficient distance to seperate from each other a bit. In A-class at the time I believe there was no team running stepped bottom boats.We would come into Goverment cut where the fans would have great viewing and back out along the beach in a coarse that I believe was approximately 8 miles long total.

I think with the evolution of Stepped bottom boats,the very tight competition ( which I am all for ) and with new shorter coarses with many turns has brought a new challenge to the racers.It seems to me and (maybe I am wrong) that the majority of the accidents occur in the turns not in the straight aways at high speeds.

I just feel that by slowing F2 boats from the low to mid 90s down to 85 MPH range and the F1 down to 78 MPH range is not the only solution for safety that needs to be looked at. It seems to me that there are less accidents when its rough than when its calm water.I think the rough water allows the boats to seperate a bit from each other and causes teams not to turn at such high speeds.I think if we would have a longer coarse with not as many turns you would not have as many spinouts and boats running into each other.

I know the shorter coarses are more fan friendly and by no means am I telling Mike A. how to run its race coarse format, I am just trying to put my 2 cents worth.I will race in any coarse that is put together and deal with it.I am just offering an opinion.

I hope to be back racing in F2 in 2004 and would like to see more manufactures come back and race and support the F1 and F2 classes.

I agree with BJ that the Factory classes allow the fans to relate to the boats they can purchase from a manufacture than a canopied boat.

Do I think a canopied boat is safer than a non canopied boat of coarse I do, but maybe we should try to avoid having less accidents in general whether you are in a canopied boat or not.That would reduce costs for everyone.

Have a Merry Christmas and Happy New year,

Jo-Pantera Boats F2-71



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