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SCL,SV,F2.

MD...you were really good(GREAT) on TO last night....funny how the #'s keep getting BIGGER....F2 boats are now going 95MPH in a race!! over 30 F2 back in the day...funny how the CURRENT F2 WORLD SPEED record is still 92 and change....held by a 500HP engine BOAT!

how MANY of those boats in St. Pete had a chance at winning that race!LOL...more like how many got lapped!

MD was RIGHT on about speed and safety...don't like it? thinks it's too fast??...STAY HOME!!! slowing the boats down is NOT the answer!...funny how you see P boat racers wearing MX helmets out there...160mph OPEN boats...jackets that look like they have been left out in the sun for years...you say F class is too fast....then make the rule NOTHING is racing w/o a lid going faster than 80....but to tell a veteran of the sport he's going too fast and in the same breath have it ok for some green,newbi, P-class 90mph+, MX helmet wearing, never opened the rule book, jacka$$,,,RACE...i have a problem with that.

i tell you there was plenty more opportunity for me to get dead REAL fast this weekend hit'n 60'ers on a MX bike then there is OFFSHORE racing!...AND THERE IS 12 year olds doing it!!!

ASK any current AMA superbike guy what it's currently like as opposed to 10 years ago??...they are spinning the rear wheel at damn near 200mph at Daytona!!! down right scary $hit!

i really get sick about people talking about slowing down...especially when you have a grandma and grandpa out there kicking a$$...yeah, snap-on!...even after a spin out and Brian breaking a helmet and his fingers...Wilma having her clavicle crushed by Brian impacting her...then finishing the race!!! so if grandma and grandpa are not complaining....NEITHER SHOULD ANYONE ELSE!...and if ya think you can give them a run (they use 500efi's)??...come on out and see how aggressive they really are!

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Lets start bashing SAFETY now. :rolleyes: Speed and SAFETY have always played a roll in motorsports.... every hear of a restrictor plate?

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yeah...they are already wearing trick safety gear...hans devices, fire suits, the latest helmets....shall i go on???i see a lot of R&D going into other motorsports... :rolleyes: ....i know, 900 bucks is going to kill the teams with a mil budget!LOL

like i said,,,a guy w/an open 160mph small cat can race...but F class is too fast!LOL

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maybe,,,,just maybe,,,,if they slow the F2 class down, other manufacture using OLD technology can compete?...hummm....like my late friend steve simon said,,,step up or stay home.

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How about a rule that says "no rule changes without a 12 month (or more) notice.

It's funny how this same conversation has been going on for decades.

I totally agree with 4 or 5 national classes, the rest should run in divisional events. And a pre set number of points before attending a national race makes a lot of sense.

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Mark,
Great post. Good suggestions. I would ask you to give so more thought to the non-national class racing. Look at the potential fleet in the GLSCS. Are 5 classes necessary? What thoughts do you have about improving the current P-Class rules? Is there a better method than GPS? I would like to race in a format that has no penalty for breaking out and little incentive to throttle back. The fastest boats on that day win. What then? Adjust if necessary. Other motor sports mandate adjustments to seek parity; this isn't a new concept.
This means that the GLSCS would need a 2-3 person team of non-racers to decide based on set up ( props. RPM and history) what class each boat races. This class is NOT determined by the racer! If adjustments are necessary, the racer has three choices. Change to the recommended set up, change to the next class, or don't race.
How do you win the series? The points stay with the boat. Regardless of class, the racers with the most points are the GLSCS winners.

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Looks like a lot of ego's here ,, I guess somethings where not meant to be, this is obviouslly one of them.. Gentelmen I wasn't tring to reinvent the wheel
I mearly was after a unification of the sport ,for what I thought was for a better future for offshore racing . This could really be a great thing ,there are some talented people out there and a lot of them are on this board now.This "dream if you will"of mine to have a offshore race team has been more work than putting together a Nextel team with alot less EGO problems and working with a lot more money people and bigger named sponsors. Until you get the bull by the balls this will never be more than what it is now.
The team owners should have manufactors calling them on a weekly basis, but I don't see that happening until YOU create a bigger need for them to do this {like Nextel Cup } people call weekly begging for there product to be used by teams offering insane deals to the teams. Right now the boat manufactors just poke along knowing you'll be there to fork out the money for there beloved product. COMPETITION is a good thing make them work for you not the other way around.

Mark I'll call you and we'll talk further

ShaneB I sent you a reply on pm

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N2,

I still agree with what you are saying. In the GLSCS the racers voted to have the GPS not the executive board. The racers need to be involved. Spec racing is great it's been around for a long time. THe problem is in the past groups changed rules due to money issues not the betterment of the sport. The almighty dollar killed racing. I can remember back when eighteen boats got together and raced for a beer can trophey and no prize money. Just to prove who was the big dog. We really need to get input from all side. People who have never raced or been involved with boat racing cannot make the rules.

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"How do you win the series?"...you don't P-class should be for fun...if you want to race for a championship or $$$, then race a premier class, whatever that may be? even a F1 w/a GM create engine for all i care. stop with EVERYONE can win a national championship...

EGO's;;;why would someone build a cat with monster power only to go out and get spanked by a SCL w/525's???O, and spend more than 2x the money to do it???

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Joe,

You need to step back a little. The GLSCS been around for (8) years with the Divisional racer in mind. We have worked hard to delivery quality races for our racers to participate in. Ask anyone out there that has been to one of our races, they are fun and exciting.

We have brought in sponsors to make the racing better. This season not only do we have our Television program which we have had for (5)seasons, we have also increased our prize money and provided a $20k High Points fund for each of our (7) classes. This might not mean much to you, but how big is the High Points fund for your class, how many times will your sponsors be shown on National T.V. We are not perfect nor do we claim to be. Our racers come first not egos. I do this for free and so does everyone else on our executive board. We love racing and have over thirty years experience doing it. Come see a race and maybe you'll change you position on the so called back yard racers and race-sites.

Regards,

Andrew D. Bloom
GLSCS Chairman