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Old 06-29-2014 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ROTAX454
Keep in mind, in most but not all cases---------The Sheriff's Marine Patrol are part-timers. Many are NOT certified police officers. Just trained in the marine functions and given ordinance authorization only. Tickets are issued/written under the County ordinance, and not the State. Makes a small difference in the monies the County and/or Township gets to keep from the fine.

A poster wrote about impounding a vessel. My experience tells me that if it WAS legal, it would have to be done by a fully certified law enforcement officer. BTW, DNR law enforcement is just that.

Be careful with the "part timer approach", as many counties/municipalities are sending reserve candidates through a 120hr program and granting MCOLES waiver of training.... Full arrest authority while on duty for offenses committed in their presence. If they have limited arrest authority and really want to impound the boat, they'll have a paid/full-time/sworn deputy at the dock to fill out the tow card and pull a complaint number.

In any case, reference MCL 28.609 for the reserve definition and authority, and note that the minimum training requirement (Sec 9. [C]) exempts sheriffs.

The part about writing under the ordinance vs. state law/administrative rule is correct.


Argue the ticket in the courtroom, don't get in a pi$$ing match on the water. The outcome is seldom pleasant.

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Old 06-29-2014 | 07:15 PM
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Switchable mufflers are not illegal in Michigan. A "cutout" is something that bypasses the exhaust system to make it louder. Switchable mufflers, silent choice, etc make an exhaust system quieter.

Your boat does have to pass the db test both ways.
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Old 06-29-2014 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Speedracer29

In any case, reference MCL 28.609 for the reserve definition and authority, and note that the minimum training requirement (Sec 9. [C]) exempts sheriffs.
Did not know that Sheriff's Department personnel are exempt. Thank you.
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Old 06-29-2014 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by onesickpantera
Switchable mufflers are not illegal in Michigan. A "cutout" is something that bypasses the exhaust system to make it louder. Switchable mufflers, silent choice, etc make an exhaust system quieter.

Your boat does have to pass the db test both ways.
Hmmmm. But officer, the system seems to have failed. It is permanently stuck in the closed "quiet" position. You can only test in that position------sorry.
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Old 06-30-2014 | 05:03 PM
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Hmmmm. But officer, the system seems to have failed. It is permanently stuck in the closed "quiet" position. You can only test in that position------sorry.
LOL. I had by Donzi Classic tested years ago. The nice thing about air actuators is you can stop them "in-between". I bumped the switch a couple times so the butterflies were partially closed before starting it. The cop was not happy when I "passed".
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Old 07-01-2014 | 05:18 PM
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Did you get stopped prowrench?
No, a friend of a friend with a bone stock 380. He was told the boat would be impounded if it was seen on the water again. The guy has lived on the lake for 16 years.
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Old 07-02-2014 | 02:26 PM
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Funny how you can ride a straight piped Harley through residential areas with no issues around here, but it's an issue to run your boat on a wide open lake. I can see a confrontation in the near future.
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Old 07-10-2014 | 10:44 AM
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Any body no of any good Merc outdrive rebuilders in that area. Indian River gaylord area. I need my Bravo 1 rebuilt. I would like to take it to All American drives near MIS Speedway/Ann Arbour, but that is a 6 hr drive for me. Any help would be great. I am located in the UP.
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Old 07-11-2014 | 07:46 AM
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Darn, wish you'd have blown them a week earlier. My girlfriend and I went to munising, could have dropped them on my way home. I live 45-1hr east of MIS. Straight down 127 to m50 then straight home. Could have at least saved you one trip.
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Old 07-11-2014 | 08:44 AM
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Any body no of any good Merc outdrive rebuilders in that area. Indian River gaylord area. I need my Bravo 1 rebuilt. I would like to take it to All American drives near MIS Speedway/Ann Arbour, but that is a 6 hr drive for me. Any help would be great. I am located in the UP.
Mr. Gadgets (from this forum) is in the Grand Rapids area
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