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New Dragon
Has the new Dragon hit the water as of yet?
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I too am looking forward to an update. :cool:
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Same here!
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New Dragon
There will be no new Dragon, it is called a GTMM 39. Giovanni Theodoli purchased Dragon last year.
We are completely re-doing the bottom. A full length pad, larger steps, and a large notch in the transom. We are removing the 1/2 canopy, still a option, and making a Euro windshield. We are making a larger cabin with a enclosed head. The hull mold work is still in progress. I would imagine we will be hitting the water at the end of the summer. In the meantime our new GTMM 27 should be splashed in 2 months. |
Fyi
I have reached out to ALL past and present Dragon owners. I have polled all there likes and dislikes. I am putting all these changes in the new GTMM. We want all Dragon owners to feel they are part of the new GTMM family. So this summer we plan on meeting up with the 2 re-done Dragons that will be at many Poker runs. They are beautiful and we consider it a honer to have them as part of GTMM's new family.
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Very cool! My apologies on calling it Dragon still. Best of luck with the endeavor. What will be a retail price for the 27?? Just curious
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Originally Posted by ssmith76
(Post 3405263)
I have reached out to ALL past and present Dragon owners. I have polled all there likes and dislikes. I am putting all these changes in the new GTMM. We want all Dragon owners to feel they are part of the new GTMM family. So this summer we plan on meeting up with the 2 re-done Dragons that will be at many Poker runs. They are beautiful and we consider it a honer to have them as part of GTMM's new family.
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Gtmm 39
Hey, call it what you want, just not a Cigarette, lol
The 39' is getting a complete new bottom. Once complete in a few weeks we are cutting the 1/2 canopy off, still offered. Then a new cabin liner with a enclosed head. We most likely to be honest will not see the water for another 3 months. We will not skimp on any detail, ever. This reply is for the 27' lovers in the crowd. Scott Hello again, We are getting her weight today. The first one is going to be Ferrari ed with Ferrari Tan interior. One giant Garmin in place of gauges. She will have a all color mathched slate grey metallic drive, gimbal and 700 SCI engine. Troy at Supreme Marine is hammering away. If anyone is in Ft. Lauderdale give me a call, I would be happy to show her to you. We have many secrets, but we dont hide our boats like many others. If it is later this summer we will be keeping her in coconut grove at Grove Harbour, the Ocean is 3 minutes for a test. Scott 954-614-7076 cell. Thanks for your following our new entry to this market. |
39 Dragon
Did the 39 come from Guardado,remember seeing one tucked away in the corner when I visited with him last year. Bud
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I have to say, I remember so many years back – after Craig Barrie had left Cigarette – and listening to him talk so passionately describe his new vision…The Dragon. To listen to Craig was to be enthused. And if you were one of the few that were privileged to follow the step by step process of building his dream, while he dealt with the headaches and struggles of a performance boat builder, you couldn’t help but to be moved by his vision.
Seeing his vision come to life in the first Dragon, was awe inspiring. To see the next few built was inspirational. To see the economy and the business slow and the struggles that ensued was heartbreaking. As Craig told me directly; people don’t want to buy a boat that doesn’t have a “name”. Cigarette, Outerlimits, Donzi, Nor-Tech…The name means as much as the product. When Craig said this, it was at the time he was selling to GTMM. He couldn’t be happier to see the prospect of his labor of love flourish. And flourish it shall under the GTMM banner. GTMM has obviously taken a great product and made it even better. I wish those at GTMM nothing but the best and sit on pins and needles in anticipation of the first 39 GTMM to hit the waters. All the best!! |
Well said Mr. Sears. When I saw the first Dragon, even being a cat lover, I was impressed by the great styling. I love capped hulls and decks too.
Seeing the boat in person at the 2005 Miami show, it was a boat to almost fall in love with. I met Craig and Scott at their shop of 84 in FtL and Craig showed me several Dragons in various build stages. They took me to see the rollcage for Gino's boat being built. I'm VERY glad this boat is being brought back, and the 27 Magnum as well. |
Thanks
This is Scott Smith I was partners with Craig, I learned what passion was in a boat company from Craig, from our days at cigarette to Dragon. Now I can carry this on in GTMM and make it a successful boat company. Thanks for your interest in the past and now. Scott
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New Dragon
Scott,we have never met,but we will some day.
I got to know Giovanna at Magnum when he was very helpful in providing us with some old build information which has been extremely helpful in verifying current Magnums still running today.We are in the process of developing an official Magnum Registry for the 7-8 models under 30 ft. The 1st dragon I saw was at Guardado's,and no question it has great lines which sets it above anything out there.No question all of us Magnums owners wish you and Giovanna great success and look forward to seeing you both and the new Magnum 27 at the July gathering in St Clair. Mich.If Mark( h2o) gets it organized.Bud |
Thanks
We will be very much involved in ALL Magnum events. We want to get back to the old time love owners have for their boats. I started racing in a 20' Cigarette, 24' Donzi, 28 Scarab,30' Velocity Putt Putt and Franz Kneisl, 32' Cobra, and a 34' Coyote, 38' Cigarette ETC. so I am old school. Cant wait to meet you all. Scott
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pictures?
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Originally Posted by thisistank
(Post 3419910)
I have to say, I remember so many years back – after Craig Barrie had left Cigarette – and listening to him talk so passionately describe his new vision…The Dragon. To listen to Craig was to be enthused. And if you were one of the few that were privileged to follow the step by step process of building his dream, while he dealt with the headaches and struggles of a performance boat builder, you couldn’t help but to be moved by his vision.
Seeing his vision come to life in the first Dragon, was awe inspiring. To see the next few built was inspirational. To see the economy and the business slow and the struggles that ensued was heartbreaking. As Craig told me directly; people don’t want to buy a boat that doesn’t have a “name”. Cigarette, Outerlimits, Donzi, Nor-Tech…The name means as much as the product. Again, we are all very excited to see the new 39 released, it's a beautiful boat!!! I wish you guys the best of luck... |
Not to get sound negative, but to build on this point I'd like to add the sound and image of the name itself is very important as well. With this said, GTMM doesn't exactly roll of the tongue, nor is it symbolic or memorable. I guess what I'm saying is while I 'get' and appreciate the GTMM name, I would reconsider it for marketing reasons. Again, just my 2 cents.
Again, we are all very excited to see the new 39 released, it's a beautiful boat!!! I wish you guys the best of luck...[/QUOTE] I agree with Scot here, "branding" is so important in the boating world. GTMM is a tough one, hopefully the boats will speak for themselves and the name will catch on.........good luck guys and looking forward to seeing some performance numbers. Do you guys expect these boats to compete with companys like Skater or Outerlimits? Or are these boats gonna be more pleasure oriented like Formula or Sunsation? |
Beautiful
We are going to make them all works of art. We want to make a luzurious, safe, stable eye catching boat. I really cant say who we will compete with. This will be up to the people who see it and test it and buy them.
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Hi Scott. It's been just over 20 years since I bought my first Top Gun when you and Craig were at Cigarette. I have kept in touch with Craig over the years but had lost track of yourself until today.
I wish you all the success in the world with this new venture. It sounds exciting and I will be following with interest. All the best, Bob Barnhart |
"...Not to get sound negative, but to build on this point I'd like to add the sound and image of the name itself is very important as well. With this said, GTMM doesn't exactly roll of the tongue, nor is it symbolic or memorable. I guess what I'm saying is while I 'get' and appreciate the GTMM name, I would reconsider it for marketing reasons. Again, just my 2 cents..." SS390
I totally agree. Does Craig own the Dragon name? If so maybe he would sell it? If not you guys should think of a snappy name to grab the public with. It will always be the Dragon to me... |
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