Any updates?

Seconded:pray:

If yall are interested in these 32's my friend is building them now under "Legend Powerboats" here in Miami, FL . I believe the first one should be getting popped soon .PM if interested.

Sweet. Can you post some pics,updates, and info Skatermike82.

Still trying to get the interior upholstery and carpet done... Got a new lower unit to match the newer fat shaft fleetmaster and having them both painted now. Get those on and finish up the lighting wiring and should be ready, hopefully just a couple more weeks.
Will post pics soon.

Here's my 32, just got done having Mark McManus rig the entire boat and put some 350's on it.

Sweet Machine intotwins. Do you have any more pics of her and pics of the Resto/Rerig. If so I am sure MdonziM would not mind if you post them here.

Wow! Sweet. Nice repower, what numbers are you seeing with the 350's? Need more details, props etc. Looks like you have 4 fuel tanks, where are they located and what capacity? Just curious how this 32 is set up as an original ob boat vs. mine that was originally inboard/ arneson rigged.

Thanks - MM

My boat was originally an outboard boat. It was built in 1995 by Mark McManus. It's a Kevlar carbon hull, so it's rock solid!! I only have 2 fuel tanks, the 4 fills are so you can fill from either side. The rear tank is 96 gallons and the front which is more mid is 44 gallons both are set between the stringers. I love the way this thing handles in the rough!! Right now I'm running bravo fs 4blade 25p and I've seen 77 but ran out of space where I was testing. I have some other props we are going to try this summer in Lake Ozark.

Here's some resto pics

That's awesome. I didn't realize til I looked back at your old picture that you got rid of the "on the edge" graphics. Is that added reinforcing on the transom for the new power? The LED trim display looks nice, I kept the old mechanical ones on mine. Interesting that my forward tank which is 5' in front of the helm bulkhead is 82gal. and my 2 rear tanks are 60gal each, just thinking about center of gravity/balance.
I spoke with Brad a BBlades a few weeks ago and he thought 4 blade B 1's or possibly their own " OBS" prop that has a 14 3/4" Diameter would be their top choice. We'll see soon enough I hope... have a set of 25" mirage plus's just to get a baseline.

Some current pics.

Sweet Machine MdonziM. Some more pics of this beast when you can. Intotwins, so Mark McManus used the 32 midnight hull and deck mold when he laid up your boat in 1995? Some more pics of intotwins machine would be nice as well. Both are beautiful timeless classics.

I think the story went something like this. My boat was customer ordered and built 82'-83' by Bing Goode at Midnight Express. Sometime around 85' ish he got pinched by the govt. and in a deal made some number of boats for them and then the company went away. Somehow Michael Arronow ended up with the molds for the 32' and I guess he let McManus make one or two in 95'. I spoke to Goode after I bought my 32 and he thought they built 20 or so but I have only seen pictures of 5 or 6.

Great info MdonziM. Your 32 had arnesons on it before the guy before you put the outboards on it. If you had bought it with the inboard arneson setup would you have kept it that way or converted it to outboards. Just curious that's why I ask. But your boat is a beast of a beauty and a machine in any event. You have done a true service to her in the way you have carried out this Resto. Hats off to you.

The 37 midnight hull is based off of the 36 cig widebody. Which hull is the 32 based off of ?

I didn't hear it strait from Bing but an old thread here said it went like this. Tommy Adams from Signature had his 28' that came from the Magnum 27. That hull mold was cut in the middle and lengthened 4 feet but before Adams could finish the 32' he was killed. Bing bought the hull mold and had a deck designed. I have a Mag 27 and the topsides are identical just stretched, but the strakes are much larger.

Hmm....Not too sure about that because there are a few 32 signatures running about. Maybe Byng got the 32 mold sometime after Tommy died. Plus, the Manta 32 came from the signature 32 also..

Mac - I only bought the boat because it was changed to outboard. I've thought about how cool it could have been with a couple of Ilmores or something but my excuse for undertaking this was to have more room for the family than my Magnum.
Turbo - Don't know about the timeline of the hull, maybe I'll try Bing again once I'm done.

Well the last month has been painfully slow. Taking the boat to the 3rd upholsterer Monday to install the cockpit carpet and some cushion work to finish everything off.

Looking ahead to the first splash and looking for input on where to set the prop shaft relative to the bottom. If the motors were mounted on the transom I've heard 1" below the bottom would be a place to start. But with 29" of bracket and jackplate offset I have also heard you go up 1/2" for every foot of offset, so up 1 1/4" puts me even with the bottom to up 1/4"? How does that sound? Also, will be turning a set of 25" mirage plus props I have just to get an idea, will probably end up going 4 blade which would be slightly higher again.

Any updates on this machine MdonziM

Finally
 

got things wrapped up and launched the other day for the first time! Couple little setbacks but nothing major. Water pressure on stb motor is low for some reason, around 7lbs. and does not improve with speed... Just ordered some set screws to block up the top 2 side intake holes. Only set of props I could get ahold of were 21" 4blade which were fine for the first few hours of eng break in but I could only get up to 40 mph and stay under 4000 rpm and at slower speeds has a tendency to porpoise. Now got a set of 27" Mirage plus to try hopefully tomorrow. Probably end up going 4 blade but just want to get some baseline performance/ handling info. I'll try to get some more pics of the interior, it came out looking nice in the end I think.

Great news MdonziM. She is Beauty. Keep us updated. More pics and some vids.

See if you can find some 24 bravos....might be a good starting point.

You might be spot on. The 21" 4 blades are too small and are only 14" diameter. I tried a set of 27" Mirage plus but that was too much pitch, (only got to 5000 rpm or so with no trim), and I didn't want to keep testing with the motors so loaded down.

turbo,
Do you run bravo 1's on your Powerplay? Is it blue with 300 opti's?
thanks

Congrats!!

Got ahold of a set of B1 24's and they perform well. Could only turn 5700-5800 rpm and 68mph but pretty good slip #'s and generally good handling. Surprised how much the boat likes to porpoise which I don't recall when driving the previous triple setup. Talking to bblades about their OBF props to try. Anyone have experience with them?

Looking good Marshall, I miss that boat. Did you ever figure out the porpoise problem, I never experienced that while I owned it, wonder if the Jack plates have something to do with it. Good luck, I hope to hear 80mph out of it soon.

Craig

any updates? pics are always good?

Hey Craig, She still tends to porpoise a bit and also wants to fly a bit in a chop but actually raising the motors helped. Now the prop shafts are about even with the bottom.

- M

After a largely successful season, had a pretty bad ending when I blew up both lower units on an "Around Manhattan Fun Run". Kicked a hole in the side of my LH aftermarket lower and an hr later seized a bearing in the RH while limping home. No power in the Harlem River of all places. Not exactly how I imagined the day going... Seems that both lowers lost some seal(s) and basically ran a Sahara no oil test until something failed. So, I had planned on taking the boat south to key west which I had to scrap.
Plan now is to rebuild the RH lower which is a Torque-master and get a new LH Torque-master by springtime.

Went to post a pic from the fall but I guess my membership expired, I'll renew and post.

MDonziM I read you were having issues with water pressure on previous post. Now you had lost your drive oil. Check your lowers for overheating thru the exhaust. I've had this happen on a 8m Carrera with twin 250. Once the boat started attaining high speeds in conjunction with engines set high started the night mare. The lowers did not have the front low water pickup. We installed a kit that Merc has to increase water flow and we blocked of the top two water ports with set screws. We chased this thru water pumps, gaskets, water pressure regulator, thermostats and cleaned out the mid section ( recommend you do this as salt will have built up in exhaust do to overheating) It will also cook you lower unit seals. Due to your lower units so high when you turn the boat right or left the outside motor losses water flow. We resolved this by finally getting some torque master units and converting the splines on the shaft to mate with the 250 efi's After that all problems went away. Hope this helps. We also ran labbed B1 26p props. Your porpoise problem is probably coming from having engines so far back. Bracket and jack plates are putting props to far. We also tried and then removed the jack plates.

oh no....sorry to hear about the reak down
well the winter is always a good time for stuff to break down..
i c the weather in the north is a little snowy.....

question...
how much set back do u have on the midnight..?
do u think that the gas tank placement has something to do with the porpoise?

Thanks for the info. Yes I blocked off the top 5 water intake holes on the inboard side and 4 on the outboard side of the lowers. I did also have low water pickups but only had 8lbs of pressure. Water temp was ok I think, the engines are not raised aggressively. The setback is 26" bracket and 3" jackplate. The tanks are the original position from when the boat had inboard/ arneson drives so the center of gravity has certainly changed.

Give me some info. When you throttle up to get on plane does it jump up or does it lag. does the bow go up a lot or slightly. When you are running what is the angle of the boat ride. Is it slight bow lift, flat or bow down some. Tabs where do you have them set. do you use them to get on plane does it help or hinder. I don't remember did you check the water pressure valve/ regulator on base of the engine midsection. A lot of little variables. But do check exhaust in mid section. It most likely coated with salt and clogged up by now. This is due to your lower unit seals being compromised.

The boat planes out pretty easily with no tabs needed. There is a small lag but its slightly over propped with 24" bravos that are not vented. When cruising I run a little tab to stop porpoising but that goes away mostly with more speed. The boat wants to fly a bit in choppy water or bigger seas especially compared to my I/O boat. Not sure still about the water pressure, the motor height was not that aggressive ( maybe 3/4"-1" above the bottom) Had the popper valves checked and running standard 143 deg thermostats, water temp seems fine. I'll find out more again in the spring when I get the one lower rebuilt and get a new counter rotating torque-master for the other.

Try a prop that is vented to resolve the planning lag. The temp of the motor wont suffer. But if you are losing water pressure it will be insufficient to cool the exhaust. Causing salt to build up in the exhaust stack and thus cooking lower unit seals. If you have the lower units off. Tilt the engines up all the way. Get a flash light and look up into the midsection. You should see the exhaust canister can. It should have a series of holes for the water and exhaust to go thru. All holes should be open. Takes only 5 minutes.

Hmm, thanks, I'll look into that.

Looking forward to warmer times again...

Marshall.......Just beached there, that 32' hull design looks timeless - you did a wonderful job on the restoration.....did you ever talk to Phil about the faulty fuel tank?
My Mistress is also and '82 and is in remarkable shape for its age ..........would love to see you out on the ocean this upcoming season!