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Jack353 11-05-2009 09:50 AM

Need Engine Help --- ATECO Engines ???
 
Hello from LOTO

Do any of you have experience with an ATECO engine package? Looking at the 540/700.

I have 320 hours on factory 500HPs with carbs in a Formula 353. Thinking of rebuilding but the ATECO may make sense if the quality and depenability are there.

If I rebuild mine; any suggestions as to engine specs or who is the best at LOTO or KC / STL area ?

Thanks, appreciate all the experienced input here !!!

...watchin' the leaves fall in Omaha

Jack353

wildthing357 11-05-2009 10:30 AM

I'm looking to do the same as you, would like to hear what people have experienced. Also what about Dyno-flow engines.

Griff 11-05-2009 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by Jack353 (Post 2985859)
Hello from LOTO

Do any of you have experience with an ATECO engine package? Looking at the 540/700.

I have 320 hours on factory 500HPs with carbs in a Formula 353. Thinking of rebuilding but the ATECO may make sense if the quality and depenability are there.

If I rebuild mine; any suggestions as to engine specs or who is the best at LOTO or KC / STL area ?

Thanks, appreciate all the experienced input here !!!

...watchin' the leaves fall in Omaha

Jack353

Let me know if are you going to sell the HP500's. I might be interested in them.

KAAMA 11-05-2009 01:51 PM

Jack353 and Wildthing357, fyi...if you're looking for reliable offshore performance engines, there are people who bring their engines all the way from the Detroit area and from LOTO to WESCO (Dave Wesseldyk's shop) in the western Michigan area. He is at least worth a phone call or stop in his shop and see some of the wild stuff he builds. Dave's phone is...616-662-2250

RunninHotRacing163.1 11-05-2009 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by wildthing357 (Post 2985882)
I'm looking to do the same as you, would like to hear what people have experienced. Also what about Dyno-flow engines.

Scott at dyno-flow will take good care of you 702-567-0832:drink:






Be carefull with At@co :angry-smiley-038:
Be prepared to wait forever 4 your chit:eek::eek:

Jack353 11-05-2009 02:27 PM

I visited the Dyno-flow folks a year or so ago. I think I'm going to look elsewhere although I've never run their product. Sounds like people are happy with Wesco and Riss. I'll contact both

eddie 11-05-2009 02:43 PM

Jack,

Several good places at LOTO to do the work. People like CPR or you can call Doug at http://performanceboatbrokerage.com/ and he can help you out.

KAAMA 11-05-2009 04:03 PM

A couple of things to consider about Wesco.....Dave does not advertise...he does not need to and he is always busy and his work/offshore engines speak for themselves.

Another thing is unless he has his hands full, Dave will always answer his phone. He doesn't run from or avoid people---he has no need to. He is a true professional.

boatman22 11-05-2009 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by RunninHotRacing158 (Post 2986013)
Scott at dyno-flow will take good care of you 702-567-0832:drink:






Be carefull with At@co :angry-smiley-038:
Be prepared to wait forever 4 your chit :eek::eek:

I'm with Big daddy on staying away from Ateco:angry-smiley-038:

waycool marine 11-05-2009 08:55 PM

im for ateco
 
i took my 502 carb motors out of my cafe racer and brought them to bill. his estimate was they were not 415 hp more like 385 the way they were rigged. they are now 525 hp 502 cu carb motors. not a hick up boat has never sounded or run so good. bills estimate was right on the money. and so was the time. start now dont wait till all engine builders are busy. my vote is ateco

GL@PBC 11-06-2009 04:10 PM

Hey Jack, been a while, your boat has always been one of the best running 353's I've ever driven or sold. Alot of good recomendations on here. Is the boat still in the same place down here?

LAKECHAIN 11-06-2009 04:33 PM

I've known Bill for years. He builds all of my engines and gives a 2 year warranty. Talk to him before you decide.

Smitty 11-06-2009 05:01 PM

+1 for Doug at Performance boat brokers. great people to deal with and very fair !!!!

Smitty 11-06-2009 05:05 PM

If you choose Ateco, make sure to get a finished time in writing !!!! Bill is fair and knowledgeable, but is not always timely.

Jack353 11-06-2009 07:53 PM

Hey, Hope you're doing well !

Yea, its still in the same place. I think I put on a total of 15 hours on it this YEAR !

Take Care

dieselprop 11-07-2009 09:45 AM

Atco bomb
 
Hi Did a friends engine.It took for ever and then blew up and he rebuilt again for another $1300.oo.What deal. Go to MPG In Highland park IL .60035. STAY AWAY FROM ATCO WHAT EVER YOU DO.STAY AWAY RUN AS FAST AS YOU CAN.

GL@PBC 11-07-2009 09:58 AM

Ran into Doug from PBB last night, they have a great reputation and can take good care of you Jack.

RunninHotRacing163.1 11-07-2009 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by dieselprop (Post 2987040)
Hi Did a friends engine.It took for ever and then blew up and he rebuilt again for another $1300.oo.What deal. Go to MPG In Highland park IL .60035. STAY AWAY FROM ATCO WHAT EVER YOU DO.STAY AWAY RUN AS FAST AS YOU CAN.

Send it to Rudy @ Dryden Performance Marine 302-367-4962 he's been doing these for the last 33 years and is old as Dirt :party-smiley-004:

Sounds like the norm coming out of AT@CO BIG Daddy :eek::eek:,there the only engine shop i ever heard of that did'nt know what to charge for a short block when it was done and when i asked for the bill they had to get the employees time card who assembled it and add up all his hours and phone calls to Dart & Larrys to get ring gaps sizes, piston wall clearances,coated wrist pin questions answered,plateau hone procedures,,to do the assembly . i would think if your building a fresh motor and done it before would'nt need to spend hours and hours on the phone calling around on a customers nickel at $95.00 an hour ...
And why the H@LL would you call Isky to custom grind a new cam when Comp has them on the shelf ready to ship ??? WTF


Like Diesel said RUN AS FAST AS YA CAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:kiss :

Biggus 11-07-2009 01:16 PM

If you're looking for a shop at LOTO Lightning Performance would be my choice for engines. Gene builds a fantastic motor.


Lightning Performance
31205 Highway 5
Gravois Mills, MO 65037-3871
(573) 374-7974

Griff 11-07-2009 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by Biggus (Post 2987153)
If you're looking for a shop at LOTO Lightning Performance would be my choice for engines. Gene builds a fantastic motor.


Lightning Performance
31205 Highway 5
Gravois Mills, MO 65037-3871
(573) 374-7974

I have heard the same thing. He has done a few pairs of engines for people I know and they have not had any issues that I know of.
I'm not sure if Perf Boat Brokerage builds there own engines or does the assembly and specs them out. I have only heard excellent reviews about them as well. There customer service is second none.

Rebel_Heart 11-08-2009 08:25 PM

Lightning Performance built up my 502s several years ago. Gene knows his stuff and is connected with a great machinist in KC. He, also warranties his work.

wirsboguy 11-09-2009 09:02 AM

Bill at ATECO is a proven builder. He's not the quickest but he makes up for it on thoroughness. His engines are rock solid and he stands behind them. As with all good craftsmen the can be a little quirkey, but thats how it goes. If you search way back on these boards, you will find a lot of great things said about his engines. Right now there is some scorned moron trying to ruin his reputation, funny thing is this guy was burned by someone else, NOT BILL!!!. Well, as they say a "happy sailor is a *****in sailor. Good luck.

klaw 11-09-2009 10:51 AM

Bill built the engines in my Cig Bullet you can see the boat on his web site

The boat is run hard and never had a problem in 5 years.

he will soon be building me a 540 for the cig 20

boatman22 11-09-2009 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by wirsboguy (Post 2987988)
Bill at ATECO is a proven builder. He's not the quickest but he makes up for it on thoroughness. His engines are rock solid and he stands behind them. As with all good craftsmen the can be a little quirkey, but thats how it goes. If you search way back on these boards, you will find a lot of great things said about his engines. Right now there is some scorned moron trying to ruin his reputation, funny thing is this guy was burned by someone else, NOT BILL!!!. Well, as they say a "happy sailor is a *****in sailor. Good luck.


I'm not a moron.....

harley572 11-09-2009 03:01 PM

ateco
 
bill built me two 632ci last winter,i only have about 5hrs on the engines and they run great.get started now if you want your engines for next summer.they build quality equipment.

Bilgerat 11-09-2009 08:06 PM

Good Luck.

eichhoma 12-09-2009 10:51 AM

+1 for Gene at Lightning Performance. Since you are local to LOTO it makes sense to stay local. I looked at Bill too, and while he seemed very nice, knowledgeable and was always easy to get him on the phone, I had qualms about dragging the boat way up there to him and then if there was a warranty issue, I would have to drag it back. Maybe more than once? no thanks.

gene was great. He was fair, timely, and he built me two rock solid supercharged 502's. communication was great, and he warrantied his work. had a couple minor issues and he arrived at my dock to take care of them. he cares very much about his reputation and it showed in his service. I would definitley use him again.

GLH 12-10-2009 07:14 AM

I bought a long block this summer from Bill and was in a hurry he delivered what he promised in time and on the $ he mentioned.

PS; I have not blown up that one yet, not for lack of trying!

With it in our MTI.

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black thunder 46 12-11-2009 03:50 PM

i use berger marine

B Idol 1 12-11-2009 04:34 PM

i use Eddie Young Performance 615-216-7449

Eddie is the man !!!!!

Brad Zastrow 12-11-2009 05:45 PM

My MTI also likes Ateco engines.


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AIR TIME 12-14-2009 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by Biggus (Post 2987153)
If you're looking for a shop at LOTO Lightning Performance would be my choice for engines. Gene builds a fantastic motor.


Lightning Performance
31205 Highway 5
Gravois Mills, MO 65037-3871
(573) 374-7974

if you can stay local thats the best thing to do, checkout GENE AT LIGHTNING PERFORMANCE, BIGGUS knows his stuff and feels GENE is good there you go. BUT if you want another good builder DEAN GELLNER ENGINEERING is very good very reliable and his MOTORS WON TWO CLASSES IN KW in nov for WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS. SO LOCAL GENE , if you travel DEAN and Dean will come and run your boat to fine tune it too. which a lot of builders don't do my x builder owned a sailboat thats why DEAN GETS MY WORK and its worth bringing him out to fine tune the motors too.

thumper038 12-14-2009 01:40 PM

[ x builder owned a sailboat QUOTE]:lolhit::lolhit::lolhit:
I hope it had some supercharged engines:lolhit::lolhit::lolhit:
Sorry could not resist.

AIR TIME 12-14-2009 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by thumper038 (Post 3005684)
[ x builder owned a sailboat QUOTE]:lolhit::lolhit::lolhit:
I hope it had some supercharged engines:lolhit::lolhit::lolhit:
Sorry could not resist.

haaaha it was a awsome 50ft sail boat he has and he has done lots of race boats, but DEAN is in class with just a few and none of the ones in this post except for maybe GENE cause I have heard storys too about to many others across the country and if your a advertiser you get a free ride on here or sos if you speak out about a paying company:grinser010:. your warned or kicked out of the sites:rolleyes::rolleyes: hey before my injury my families company is, was still is hahaha well known around the world by word of mouth and thats who you want working on your motors or boat if your smart not just a advertiser on a web site just like PB mag never says a bad thing about a boat :grinser010: and look at them now there almost dead cause people talked on the net emails so on. THIS IS FOR FOR LABOR COMPANYS, not COMPANYS that sell products big dif, I met DEAN from word of mouth and he is a true artist passion it person that loves the sport of speed whether its drag cars/ offshoreboats/ circle track or speed records him and his family bleed motors like I installing/ designing a custom rug or carpet for a sheik over in Dubi or rock band Aerosmith,so onex prezes haha. he and I we love creating something special them motors them and us custom rugs, I will only use DEAN for now on. so like I said if yor staying local go with GENE if your going out side the belt talk to DEAN. YOU WOULD BE SURPISED AT WHAT DEAN COULD DO WITH YOUR 500s on a rebuild. na 700hp easy

thumper038 12-14-2009 09:44 PM

No Harm meant :party-smiley-004:we just boated around a lot of sail boats where we used to live and they usually did not like any boat with through hull exhaust,
If I win the lotto a 40 sail boat with 1500 sterlings / first thing I will order just to go back and go sailing:lolhit:
Thumper


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