Powerboat Rage review
 

Does anyone have a copy of the power boat review of the Nordic rage for 2009? I would really like a copy of it if possible.

I purchased that boat from Nordic on Labor day weekend.
By the way i love it. Nordic builds a great boat.

You must be the new Pineview Nordic then :drink:

Welcome to the Nordic clan :ernaehrung004:

Dave

BTW, (and if you are the new local Nordic guy) I'll look but I believe I have it and I can drop it by EKF or you can pick it up from me. I'm in Layton and won't need it.

Let me know,
Dave

Dave that would be great.
My boat is over at EKF they are getting winterized and they are working on the Raceview GPS speedo. It should be finished up on monday. I live in Ogden and work in centerville so I could probably pick it up if that works better.

Thanks for the welcome.

Nice to see more Nordics in SLC. Are you speaking of the green/white one w/ hp525? What lakes do you burn around in?

That would be the one.

I have only had the boat out a couple of times and I need to get the prop dialed.

We spend a lot of time at pineview. Most of the time is spent on the beach building sand castles with my 4 year old daughter rather than burning up the lake. I also spend a couple weeks at flaming gorge on the north end of the lake. If stars align I get one week down south at mead or havasu during the fall and spring.

LOVE THAT BOAT! I have that issue then saw it @ LA boatshow. Set up is awsome. What prop are you running? I'm thinking my labbed 28 might work well on that boat. Little too small for me, I've only used it at the Gorge. Your welcome to give it a try. I try to get up to Pineview every so often. That lake gets crazy crowded. Usual spots for me are Utah (aka mudpuddle) it's 25 min. Also Deer Creek & Starvation. Hope to see you out there after the thaw!

I currently have a Bravo I 26 pitch but I am not getting enough RPM, if I lab it I think I will get about 300 more RPM and be good. I tried a labbed 24 and it had good hole shot but I think my RPM was a little high. I would guess that the 28 would be a little to much prop but it wouldn'thurt to give it a try.

Did you run the 28 before the whipple?

What kind of speeds were you seeing on your rage before the whipple?

My boat only has 15 hours on it so it's still getting broken in.

Yes Pineview is crazy crowded, but the beach is great.

I bought the boat already w/ whipple from WA. Just repowered w/ 320 hrs & have about 35 on the new motor. Not sure how it ran before SC. The 32 worked good at lower elev but only ran 4900 here. I bought a 28 labbed thinking it would get me about right, but I hit the limiter. I sent in the 32 & went to 5100ish, but I think I need a 30. 83-84ish here with either prop, so 30 would be my ideal. Sounds like 26 lab is what you need here, but 28 would run good down south.

PS Now that it's broken in, WHIPPLE IT! You'll be hittin 90+! Whoo Hoo!:boat:

Is your Bravo I 26 pitch prop the same one they used for the Powerboat review testing?

Sorry I haven't seen the article. When I picked up the boat from nordic it had the 26 on it, however I think they put the 26on for the higher elevation I run in utah. I heard the boat ran in the 80's for the article, so they must have run a 28 or bigger.

90mph rage
So you are running 83-84 with the new rebuild?
How many horeses are you running now?
What kind of speed do you think I should be running once I get the boat all broken in?

Hey Oboy,
I was winterizing over the weekend. Suppose to snow this week :snide:
I'll dig up the magazine this week and shoot you a PM.
On NA motors you will see 3-4" (closer to 4") of pitch difference between here (5000 feet) and Havasu and generally 7-9 mph.
If your not over 5100 rpm now with the stock 26 the lab 26 should be spot on. The Rage reacts very well to the Merc lab finished props proven thru DesertRage's (Jon's) testing.
He has another 26 you might want to try. It's "kinda" labbed by a local guy but works fairly well.
I don't think you'll see any additional break-in increase but I would think 75 around our parts should be a good solid number for you when your done :drink:

Come on Spring!

Dave

The rebuild was conservative, so I don't think I added too much more hp. Just slightly taller cam, new ignition, new pistons for the bore over & a little port work. Whipple says 725ish stock hp500, so I'm thinking 750-775ish. I've seen guys squeeze 850+ with more boost, but I can't afford a new motor every year & I'll keep the boost 5-6. This altitude it's not much, but I get down to Havasu every now & then.

I agree with Dave, your probably pretty much broken in & 75 is a good #.
I'll tell you my experience w/ labbed props. My 32 was 4850rpm before lab. 5150 now, so 300 added for lab & drops pitch to about 31. Rule of thumb, 300 per 2" of pitch & 300 rpm for lab & lowers pitch -1". So a lab 28 pushes the water of a 27, but turns easy as a 26. You can send your 26 to merc for about $350 for lab, or talk to Jon or Dave for a local guy. It'll get you probably 2-3 mph.

How are the locally labbed props compared to the Merc ladded props?
I think the the 26 pitch labbed will get me to close to 5100 rpm.

I would like to pick up a 24 pitch prop for Flaming george, but won't have any cash till december. Let me know if you come across one.

I noticed that the rage seems to really like to have the drive trimmed up to run fast. Have you guys experienced the same?

It seems like I was running around 70 when I ran the boat at pineview so I think you are probably right on with 75 once I get a labbed prop and a few more hours on the boat.

SkiBum,

Welcome to the forum! You have an awesome boat, I caught a glimpse of it on Pineview a few weeks back. I really like the green and white scheme.

The Rages do like a lot of trim. They need it to get up on the pad. Mine throws around a 3' high roost when running WOT.

The prop I ran all summer was a Bravo 1 26p that was labbed by Marine Prop in Clearfield, Ut. He did a good job with the thinning and balancing, but it doesn’t have the same transom lift as the Merc labbed props. When I tried a Merc labbed 28p I picked up 3mph. I ran the 26p at Flaming Gorge (6000'), Pineview (4900'), and Powell (3700') speeds were 78-83 depending on the lake. You are welcome to try it if you like; it’s also for sale…

Jon

Jon,
What motor and horsepower are you running to get speeds of 78-83?

Its good to know they like a lot of trim, becuase it seemed pretty high compared to my previous boats.

I am going to be doing some tubing and wake boarding, so I still need some hole shot thats why i was thinking about a 24 pitch for flaming george and as a spare.

I have talked to the marine prop guy and he seems to know his stuff.

It’s a custom 555ci n/a. It’s never seen the dyno, but I estimate around 650-675hp. I was spinning the 26 right around 5700, that’s where my motor wants to run.

I know exactly what you mean by the trim. It took some time for me to get comfortable with it.

A 24 might be best for Slalom at the Gorge. I noticed about 100-150 rpm difference between Pineview and Gorge. I guess it depends on how quick it planes at Pineview with your current 26.

Marine Prop does great work and excellent repair jobs. In my experience, the Merc lab was a better fit though.

Just a thought Skibum (water or snow ski?)
You may want to try a 24 at Pineview. If your thinking that a lab 26 would get you to 5100 then your probably about 4800 rpm now with the stock 26. You will want to get the rpms up even more. I believe in the PB test they were spinning a 28 to near 5400rpm. The cam in that motor wants some rpm so a "Merc" lab 24 would not be out of the question. Start with a stock 24 and see where that pulls to. It may pull you up in the powerband and have a great ski boat attitude with a better top end :drink: Then labbing the 24 (with a little extra cup) would put you in the really sweet spot :evilb:
If it works the guys at EKF will get Nordic to swap you I would bet. Again the 4" rule seems to apply here :drink:

Dave

Skibum,
If you ski you'll need the smaller. No speed records, but you can get up. I've skied with my 32 & it's a DRAG for miles. I can't hold my breath that long. Once my 32 starts to plane, it picks up slip, cavitates or something & jumps from 2200 rpm to 3000 instantly as if the drive came out of the water. My 28 hooks up all the way through the process. Wakeboarding is out of the question unless you ride @ 30mph.
I only pull my worst enemies on the tube.
I was up north today & drove by EKF. Saw your boat sittin out there ski bum, still lookin good. Anyone know how I can acquire the 35' they got there? (no down, low payments & a bigger truck to pull it?) Everyone better get the boats out of the cold & winterized, snows on the way. Learn from me, change the oil in the fall, not the spring & FOG, FOG, ANTIFREEZE, FOG SOME MORE & MORE ANTIFREEZE FOLLOWED BY MORE FOGGER. Wish I could join ya Jon in Mohave. Hope the weather holds for you. I'd like to try your 30 after the thaw.

Get out there, burn some carbon & bring on global warming!

I usually spend every saturday and sunday at snow basin snow skiing, but I do like to water ski and wake board in the summer.

EKF finished winterizing my boat and they have also been trying to get the GPS working on my raceview. The two GPS units that they have tried havn't worked. I might have to wait until spring to get that fixed.

The guys at EKF let me try out a 24 labbed and seemed like the rpms were up around 5200 +. The 24 had some good hole shot. However I am not used to trimming the boat up that high so I probably could have got some more out of it. I was thinking the labbed 26 would get me close to 5200 but I will have to see how everything is running come spring thaw.

Hey SkiBum,
I checked the article last night and it was a 26 @ 5400 so they probably never changed the prop. I think it was 81.7 mph. That explains why your only at 4700-4800 and ~71 or so. General rule is we lose about 600 rpm and 6-9 mph here.

My buddy's Rage with a 496HO (425hp) spins a stock 24 to ~ 4750 and a lab 24 to ~5000 and runs ~68 mph on GPS at Pineview. So I'm assuming you could spin a lab 24 to 5400 and be at 73-74.
You probably just need some more seat time as well. Take Jon (DesertRage) out with you in the Spring as he has been doing extensive testing with, lowers, props trim and such. (Gonna have to call him CBLR Jr :evilb:)

I found both PB mags. Do you happen to take 89 to and from work. I live just east of 89 in Layton.

Dave
(801-540-7276)

OHBOY


I just happened to have the june issue in my work car and read it today by chance. This is probably not the issue your referring to because the is the Best Boats of 09 Issue. The Powerboat test must have been an earlier than June issue.
I most likely have that also but I would have to take a look.
Anyway here's a scanned copy so you can see it.


Ray

Raytart,
Thanks that was awsome of you to scan that for me. I was under the inpression they did a performance review earlier in the year, but since I don't have a subscription I am not sure.

I can't wait for spring.

Dave I take 89 everyday maybe we could meet at grounds for coffee and I could buy you a cup, that is if you like the stuff. I will give you call. Thanks

The Nordic crowd is a great group of people.

Skibum,

I'm pretty sure your right. It was a performance review then in another issue for runabout of the year. I'll look through my boatporn stash & see if I can find it. I think Jon lives up north & he's bringing my prop back next week, so maybe I can get it to him to get to you if I find it. I'll look tonight. Or I can just mail it.

Powerboat
 

Skibum

I have both issues with you boat. The Dec 08 has the test & the june 09 has the runabout of the year article. I can part with them if you'd like.

Here ya go.
90mph made it easy (thanks)
Dec 08

If one of the local OSO members to you don't come through with the hard copy, just shoot me a pm and I'll mail it your way. Did you actually pay the msrp? I really like my Heat and I'm sure you will enjoy your Rage. Best of luck and be safe. I'm kicking the idea of a New Flame for next season. But it's a lot of cash to part with. (Sorry kids, no college money, Dad spent it all on another boat).

Ray

Just call when you want to pick them up; they're in an envelope ready to go. I'm right behind Grounds for Coffee :drink:

Dave

:drink:Thas a lot of money for a rage. But Im sure it is bas ass. But holy cow thats alot of money for a rage. I love my Heat and really think when I'm big $hit and ready to go twins that I will go to a Flame for sure. Thay are so sweet!! I just dont think that I can support twins with where I'm at now. My goal is it to own a 100mph Flame someday with Whipples and blue motors.

Dave,
I will try to give you a call in the next couple of days to meet at grounds.

Yes it is a lot to pay for a rage (I didn't quite pay Full MSRP, but Nordics don't come Free. You get what you pay for.). The 25 still works for wakeboarding, tubing and it can still moves out.

Yes the kid will have to wait on college, but hey I had to pay for it myself why shouldn't she. Thats easy to say when she if 4.

SkiBum,
90MPHrage has your magizines, but it sounds like Dave's already got you covered!

90MPH,
Thanks again for lending me your prop. It worked great and Mohave was a blast. I'll call ya later today.

Jon

VERY IMPRESSIVE SPEEDS Jon! Parker is a few feet lower (& flows downhill) & should get you well over 90. Haulin the mail! Sounds like the weather was T**S too!
Next year I will wait it out to winterize.
Settles the ? on who to have lab props. Merc does wonders.
Still have a Merc labbed 28 I would love to sell/trade for a 30.

Maybe a -2 & a 34 & a smaller pulley will get me near 100?:lolhit:

I tried college & boating. Guess what I stuck with?

Thanks Randy! The weather was perfect, an awesome way to end the season. I passed through the Fillmore Beaver area :D Thursday night and the truck read 17 degs, but after Cedar City it warmed up.

The -2 will give you 2+ mph, add that to the pulley and you will be flying!