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surmirage 04-06-2010 09:08 PM

Rage exhaust location
 
Hi everyone, I'm just wondering why some rage's exhaust tips are located at the other edges of the transom and some are more to the center, close to the drive? Any advantages either way?

bobl 04-07-2010 10:06 AM

It's just a personal preferrence when you build the boat. The transom gets kind of crowded when they are run out the back, but it can be done. If you don't specify otherwise, they will be out the corners. I personally think through transom sounds better, but the corner looks cooler.


Originally Posted by surmirage (Post 3082420)
Hi everyone, I'm just wondering why some rage's exhaust tips are located at the other edges of the transom and some are more to the center, close to the drive? Any advantages either way?


ComfortablyNumb 04-07-2010 01:41 PM

My exhausts are on the transom. I've contemplated external steering for the boat and they are right in the way. I'm sure it can be done though.

DesertRage 04-07-2010 05:43 PM

I've got the transom mounted exhaust, external steering, and Dana tabs. You can make it fit, but you will need the close mount Ram kit.

oboyskibum 04-08-2010 09:40 AM

My exhaust is located on the outer edges. One theing nice about having them in that location is that they are delow the water line during idle, so it helps quiet things down a bit. The negative is that I can't just slide in mufflers to quite things down further on days your wife is sick of all the noise.

ComfortablyNumb 04-08-2010 01:53 PM

Desert Rage,

Is your steering from the factory or aftermarket? I guess my question would be "Who makes a kit"? I was starting down the road of adding external steering but got sidetracked for a couple of years.

Thanks!

Pat

DesertRage 04-08-2010 03:49 PM

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Pat,

The kit I used is from IMCO. My Rage came without tabs or steering. Which was nice, so I could position everything at the same time and get it to fit. Here's a shot of my layout and the kit P/N from IMCO. I think they are top notch in quality.

DesertRage 04-08-2010 03:57 PM

A little more info.. I have heard some say the longer rams mounted further away from the drive are stronger because of the increased leverage on the drive. While this may be true from the leverage stand point, it also weakens the ram. The longer rams are more prone to flexing. The shorter rams have the advantage of being stiffer.

90mphRAGE 04-08-2010 04:18 PM

I don't think a Rage is heavy enough to damage rams, etc. & the single should be enough (better than none). I have the same setup as Desert, but Bennett tabs which are wider & shorter. Plenty of room

ComfortablyNumb 04-08-2010 09:38 PM

Great! Thanks for the pic's. I had downloaded the information on IMCO a couple of years ago but wasn't sure if I had the room to set it up between the drive and the exhaust.

The exhaust outlets look to be in the same position as those on my boat. I'll bet that was fun to install. I've looked around that area on my transom and I've decided that I need to loose at least 10 lbs. before I can work around in the back there.

Did you have to restrict the tilt limit so you don' damage the swim platform with the drive in the trailer position?

Thanks again.

Pat

90mphRAGE 04-08-2010 11:20 PM


Originally Posted by ComfortablyNumb (Post 3083783)
Great! Thanks for the pic's. I had downloaded the information on IMCO a couple of years ago but wasn't sure if I had the room to set it up between the drive and the exhaust.

The exhaust outlets look to be in the same position as those on my boat. I'll bet that was fun to install. I've looked around that area on my transom and I've decided that I need to loose at least 10 lbs. before I can work around in the back there.

Did you have to restrict the tilt limit so you don' damage the swim platform with the drive in the trailer position?

Thanks again.

Pat

My XR is about 1/8" from swim patform fully up. XR's don't have tailer switch though, so don't know about limit. Mine was already setup.

Rage 04-09-2010 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by ComfortablyNumb (Post 3083783)
I've looked around that area on my transom and I've decided that I need to loose at least 10 lbs. before I can work around in the back there.

Did you have to restrict the tilt limit so you don' damage the swim platform with the drive in the trailer position?

Pat

If you unscrew the rear bench seat (eight floor phillups screws and a lag bolt on each upper corner) , unplug the speaker wires and slide it forward, working in the engine transum area becomes dramatically easier. Probably easier to move the seat than loose 10 pounds.

I carefully reshaped the ear on the Imco (Bravo drive) external steering bracket ear area that hits the swim platform at full up with a hand grinder and then had it powdercoated. I was very conservative with metal removal so as to not significantly weaken the bracket so there are still a few drive location angles that will rub the platform at full up but still 99% better.

DesertRage 04-09-2010 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by ComfortablyNumb (Post 3083783)
Did you have to restrict the tilt limit so you don' damage the swim platform with the drive in the trailer position?

Thanks again.

Pat

I installed the steering and tabs while the engine was out. I know what you mean, climbing in the boat over the seat and under the hatch does get old. If you have some help it might be worth pulling the hatch. That alone makes in much more comfortable working back there.

My cap did hit the swim deck. I installed the factory merc trim ram spacers in the rams. This limits the rams extension. I also reset my trim limit switch to stop the ram before it contacts the swim deck. My drive will hit if it is turned first, then if I straighten it out with the steering wheel I can raise it some more for trailering. These boats sit so low on their trailers I wanted to be able to raise the skeg as much as possible from the road. So, now you can raise the drive with the switch on the throttle regardless of the drive angle and the limit switch will stop it before it hits then when it’s on the trailer I straighten out the steering wheel and raise it with the transom trailer switch till the ram spacers stop it. I have no chance of dinging my swim deck setup like this.

powdercoat777 04-10-2010 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by ComfortablyNumb (Post 3082773)
My exhausts are on the transom. I've contemplated external steering for the boat and they are right in the way. I'm sure it can be done though.

if you do external steering you have to move them out, If you look at my boat I had to move them

powdercoat777 04-10-2010 02:14 PM

[IMG]http://i622.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/IMG00163.jpg[/IMG]

had to move my exhause out when i put hyd steering

CB-BLR 04-10-2010 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by powdercoat777 (Post 3084670)
[IMG]http://i622.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/IMG00163.jpg[/IMG]

had to move my exhause out when i put hyd steering

Powdercoat777,

Not to be a killjoy... but IMCO makes a tight fit external steering system that would have probably fit inside your stock exhaust location. A picture of a 1/2 system in the tight fit configuration can be seen in post #7

Looks like you went to a lot of extra work.

Chris

powdercoat777 04-19-2010 10:55 PM


Originally Posted by CB-BLR (Post 3084776)
Powdercoat777,

Not to be a killjoy... but IMCO makes a tight fit external steering system that would have probably fit inside your stock exhaust location. A picture of a 1/2 system in the tight fit configuration can be seen in post #7

Looks like you went to a lot of extra work.

Chris

Ya I deff should of done a lot more research before I started this whole mess.. I spoke with nordic today and they told me to put 12x17" trim tabs on.. but some people say 24, I think 18" should be more then plenty

90mphRAGE 04-29-2010 09:15 PM

A little late figuring this pic thing, but here's another example, though my pipes appear to be further out from the factory?
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/7959/file0005v.jpg


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