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Old 10-29-2009 | 09:36 AM
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Kevin so know you want to compare Jason's Baja to Jay's Formula? This could be an apples to apples comparison and could be very interesting. I believe both boats are aprox. the same year and value. I know the Baja has bigger power and runs faster at wot. but I have only been on Jay's Formula so I will give you my take on that boat and the ride. First I went out on a breezy day in the sound with a god 2 ft chop. The boat rode better then I thought it would,much better actually. The fit and finish og the cockpit is very impressive and it is obvisous this is where Formula spent a great attention to detail. The gauages,shifters and throttles are top quality. Electric bolsters and so on(not sure why you would put them up). The paint is also in the higher end and it a twin step with small blocks so my guess this boat is very economical to run. The Baja outside appearance to me is more appealing, I don't like windshields or molded swim platforms on these types of boats but that is just an opinion thing. Rough water capability may come to driver imput. So lets hear your opinions
Ok, well Formula has always made quality boats. I actually remember seeing Jays boat in OP showroom and I thought, wow, this boat is sweet! I didnt think it was going to be as expensive as it was, but looking at the attention to detail and the paint job up close, its beautiful. Lots of upgrades and timless Formula lines. If they could put big blocks in that boat, it would be "absolute EVIL". Rough water handling should compare to the Baja, probably same weight . Formulas are usually pretty heavy. I like the lines of the Baja because it looks like an offshore boat. The windshield is not my first choice. Im a fan of the raised deck on the Baja. 75 MPH out the box is sweet! Theres alot to be said about that. I think Jay would have to drive it like he stole it to keep up with Jason. Guys, whos cabin has more room? Im going to guess the Formulas cabin is nicer with more options. Right?
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Old 10-29-2009 | 10:04 AM
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The boats are pretty similar. I have more freeboard and I believe more deadrise but not 100% sure. I can't knock Formulas at all 'cause I think they're a great boat and mostly I can't knock this one because it belongs to a very good friend of mine. Now as far as the boats compared....The Formula is a better built boat. Baja is more mass produced and cheaper quality wise. But I do love the offshore stance it has as Kevin and Frank mentioned, I think the Bajas really got it right with style and appearance. Also I am a true 30 whereas the Formula is a 29 with platform. And yes because of his small blocks I am faster. I also come on plane ridiculously quick. Ammenities are almost the same between the two. I believe the only thing I lack is a small freshwater tank with the little sink in the cabin. I have more cabin and cockpit space due to being a bigger boat. The other plus (besides big blocks) are the k-planes as compared to trim tabs. They make a huge difference in the rough or balancing a load. But both boats are absoultely perfect for our area. Small enough to trailer but large enough to boat on any given day, faster than a large amount of boats in the area, big enough to haul plenty of people around, efficient to run and own, usable cabins for overnighting, and a relatively decent price tag for an entry level performance boat as Jay and I both purchased them new. The only thing I don't have is "the bucket"!!! And...Paulie can't go on EITHER of them!!
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Old 10-29-2009 | 10:25 AM
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AAAAHAAAHHHH!!!:ernae hrung004:p::cuqui::cuqui::cuqui::c uqui:

Paulie , I think youve burried yourself for the last time! Frank, you are the only one to take the little guy in! Good luck with that! Oh, wait, Lefty said he would....................NOT!!!!! sorry Paulie, Roli may let you on,or is his boat not good enough for you either?
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Old 10-29-2009 | 10:32 AM
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Kev...I think you're the winner of the "most dancing cartoon sh!t in a post" contest!!
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Old 10-29-2009 | 10:43 AM
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The boats are pretty similar. I have more freeboard and I believe more deadrise but not 100% sure. I can't knock Formulas at all 'cause I think they're a great boat and mostly I can't knock this one because it belongs to a very good friend of mine. Now as far as the boats compared....The Formula is a better built boat. Baja is more mass produced and cheaper quality wise. But I do love the offshore stance it has as Kevin and Frank mentioned, I think the Bajas really got it right with style and appearance. Also I am a true 30 whereas the Formula is a 29 with platform. And yes because of his small blocks I am faster. I also come on plane ridiculously quick. Ammenities are almost the same between the two. I believe the only thing I lack is a small freshwater tank with the little sink in the cabin. I have more cabin and cockpit space due to being a bigger boat. The other plus (besides big blocks) are the k-planes as compared to trim tabs. They make a huge difference in the rough or balancing a load. But both boats are absoultely perfect for our area. Small enough to trailer but large enough to boat on any given day, faster than a large amount of boats in the area, big enough to haul plenty of people around, efficient to run and own, usable cabins for overnighting, and a relatively decent price tag for an entry level performance boat as Jay and I both purchased them new. The only thing I don't have is "the bucket"!!! And...Paulie can't go on EITHER of them!!
Jason, just out of curiousity, if you and Jay switched boats for a race to Claudios, who would get there first? Jason driving the Formula, and Jay driving the Baja.

Frank, what do you think?
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Old 10-29-2009 | 10:45 AM
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I can't argue with any of your comments about the Formula and Baja.... although I know that Jason's handles the "bigger" chop better, I think a lot of that has to do with the K planes and 1 foot in length.... I do like the step hull design of the Formula...however I can't go toe to toe with the Baja's overall speed. I think it has me by about 3-4 mph.

Eventhough you guys bust on the windshield....is rocks at dusk/night or when it rains!!! But I fully agree that a clear plexiglass of the Cig or Baja "looks sweet". And.... I like the look of the built in swim platform actually and how the shower/stereo remote and ladder are all hidden.

It is too bad Formula does not offer big blocks.....there is PLENTY of room for them, must be a balance issue. My bottom line is it's a great boat....however NOT worth what I dumbly paid....and if I were to do over I would get a early 2000's, USED 38 or 42 Cig or Fountain. But....live and learn!

PS. I have the most color!!!! lol!!! That must count for SOMETHING boys!!!

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Old 10-29-2009 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by kreed
Jason, just out of curiousity, if you and Jay switched boats for a race to Claudios, who would get there first? Jason driving the Formula, and Jay driving the Baja.

Frank, what do you think?

Baja wins....hands down. I can drive d!ckweeds!!!!.....cars/boats/cycles. I just know my limits and equipments limits! Unlike most Baja driver's I've seen!!!!

Kev...aren't YOU the one who hit a bouy this year....and rocks!!!!

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Old 10-29-2009 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by kreed
Jason, just out of curiousity, if you and Jay switched boats for a race to Claudios, who would get there first? Jason driving the Formula, and Jay driving the Baja.

Frank, what do you think?
The Baja would win every time. Its just a faster boat. And if it happens to be a little choppy it handles that a little better. Although I do only know one speed....WFO!!!!
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Old 10-29-2009 | 10:52 AM
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And Jay...how does a windshield help at night??? And let me throw in some of these for you know who...its been a while
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Old 10-29-2009 | 10:58 AM
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Jason, thats where I think you may get me. I always keep a close eye on gauges and dont hold it WOT for long. Only because I can afford to fix blowed up engines! On an older boat, you have to worry aboutlaw that stuff!
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