hey boxer buckys cafe will be crushing wave in b.i.sound while your in back at the mouth decing to go or not
-Mike

Man you guys just have to keep throwing more power at your boats to be happy with them.

I have 2 measley 300"x on my boat and I am very happy with it. Christ thats just about a fishing boat. Does everything well though.
I guess you guys need to be up against something with comparable HP, so Jimmy knowles sutphen with tripple 300x's would be a good match, That's only 900 HP I am sure you guys are running at least that.

Whats he running about 96 MPH these days?

Didnt know turds could do that. Wait a minute i know whats going on here its getting tow behind his truck. Hell i could get a bayliner to 100 atleast. Lets go see triple digits that was a sutphen rite?????

Well I could see why you would think it was being towed.

I mean being a cig owner you realize thats the only way a cig could run those numbers.

However this is a sutphen we are talking about, so its under its own power and yes, IN THE WATER!


In fact theres video of it doing just that on you tube.

Now I know your used to that 65 MPH that most cigs run, and its hard to believe that with not much more HP a SUTPHEN can run that fast (96) but its true. Not only that, but it was done on 3 FISHIN MOTAS.

Thats OK we are still suprised a CIG could run tripple digits even on a trailer. With that Hull design you think that would be to rough for it>LOL

Okay I have been pretty tolerant of all the Cig bashing from you but no more. First I am happy with my boat, very happy but it is time to go to the next project. Just like if I owned your boat I would remove that fugly Mr. Magoo windshield scrap that those little salad mixers then sell the rest for scrap and save my money then buy a Cigarette.:kiss: All this talk from you and i have never seen your boat in the ocean. Bring that trailer queen out anytime you want and we let all the bull**** talk stop. Don't get me wrong Sutphen makes a good boat but it is no Cigarette. If those boats where as good as you guys think then why so few??? I am sure you have an answer. And speaking of 65 mph who's boat are you talking about? Give an example.

Frank My boat is in the sound every weekend?

I have seen you on the sound SEVERAL times. THere are less sutphens because they are CUSTOM MADE not mass produced!


each one is lovingly handled buy true craftsmen to be just about perfect in every way.

1/2 the cigarettes produced from 1970's to 1990's wouldnt run over 65 MPH. I see them getting spanked by jetskis all day long on the river! They are famous for being slow among jetskiers, a favorite target!

RXP's lay waste to them on a regular basis and thats a fact!

My boat is dead stock and it will walk a RXP all day long in any water and its a boat with OB's on it that was built 100% as a pleasure boat not a go fast boat. Its got seating for 8 for christ sake.LOL


Now if we are just speaking of how fast a boat is a cig is on the bottom. Lets face it ANY CAT will spank its AZZ all day long, so if speed is our only concern both our boats are getting walked like crazy.

Sick and I were just playing with eachother, but I told him at least one of the CIG guys would take this seriously and get his panties all in a bunch.LOL

I didnt think it'd be you of all people.

There are 50 other makes on this site and all have thier good and bad points. We mess with you CIG guys because you think you own the be all end all of performance boats and we find your cockiness funny.

I have said it before and I'll say it again. I like cigarettes, but they are not the 10 steps above boats that CIG owners think they are.......

For the record SICK came into the SUTPHEN FORUMS throwing STONES we didnt get all cranky and *****y. We know were the best boat made.LOL

i am with jeff (30ctsutphen) here...

we walked by an older cig in the sound 2 weeks ago...the people in the cig looked shocked. like jeff said from 1970's to 1990's, 65-70 mph is about tops unless they have been re-powered.

Are you really comparing jet skis to Cigarette boats? Let me tell you my snowmobilewill go right past your Sutphen in the water so your point is? I don't care about all out speed I prefer the rough water capability or I would buy a cat. And as far as Cigarette owners being cocky you have been the only one talking crap about other boats and if you want I can repose them for you. And a side note green is not a good color on you

Same wig older formulas with trs and 454's right. I also heard your boat went by Kreeds Bullet in the sound right???

nah wasnt him...he was in newport that weekend. it was someone else. a bullet none the less.