Mike, if you ever get one of your boats running , I have a proposition for you. We will start at Pt. Judith and run to Block Island and whoever losses
has to kiss the winners transom. Let me know when you are ready. ERNIE

Wow..... A lot of **** slinging .........

Simple fact of marketing, if Sutphen had spent dollar for dollar on marketing for the past 30 years this would be a different story.

Give me a choice between a 1988 gun or a sut & a ball peen hammer.

No wrong,....Enjoy your boats fellas....... I enjoy mine.

i say my 21ft small block chevy sunrunner is faster than a cig or sut in any water condition lol :evilb::lolhit:

Show me ONE example of a personal attack!

NOT ONE!

Let me explain to you what a personal attack is: It is when some one attacks you persoanlly or your possesions personally. For me to say something about cigarette boats or owners is a generalization.

Now saying Richie sounds like Democrat is a PERSONAL ATTACK.

You wont find me saying anything about Don arnow, you or your boat, its paint scheme, its engines etc in any thread anywhere anytime.

As for Cig owners being COCKY Most of your Cig brothers wear that as a badge of honor. They are happy if you tell them they have a big head or are cocky and openly admit it. At least the ones I know. So that wasnt so much a dig as a truth.

Lets look at the score though: You and KREED both talked crap about my windshield, my engines, The builder of my boat personally. So who is throwing stones and needs to look at thier posts again??

If you look at any of my previous posts on this topic anywhere they are all in good taste and are all in good fun. All are attached to other posts that explain I am joking around with someone. Or ribbing someone but that I like cigarettes in general.


What my order of boats is should mean nothing to you.

When I was looking into new boats after my last sutphen I honestly looked at allot of boats, cigarette models were at the top of the list to look at and both you and KREED know that.

After looking at many many MFG's I chose to go back to SUTPHEN. After having 3 of them I knew them well and I like the fit and finish better than anything looked at. I really liked apache's too but the cost to quality ratio was not so good. THey comand to high of a premium for me.

I could have bought a beautiful top gun out of florida for $33,000 that was owned by a building contractor I knew that was going belly up but there wasnt enough room in the cockpit and It had BBC merlin motors in it that were jam packed into the hull. Many guys would have loved that boat but for me it was just not practical.


I wanted my,rough water hull, lots of seating, bimini top, OB and plenty of room. I got it in a SUTPHEN.

It doesnt bother me that you attacked those thing s to be honest I am pretty thick skinned. This all turned out exactly as I told Sick stinger it would though.LOL

Theres really no hrad feelings at all on my part. I'll drink a beer with both of you guys anytime. I'll even do it out on your CIG!

A 33PP in the rough over any 35ft Cig. Its a fact.

OH SH&^ !

Now its ON!

Any other makes wanna get in on the action, Apache, fountain excalabur, welcraft scarab etc this could get UGLY.:party-smiley-004:

Inner rage your always talking sh&^ JUst cause you have the fastest boat on the forums. WTF

you always gotta rub that in our faces?:kiss:

Ernie Your on! Hey Boxer lunch is on me either way when we hit block next year. Only reason I have the Cig is due to you Thanks again.
-Mike

I have heard for years that the PP is a great rough water boat but never seen one run nor been in one. Adam your boat is definately faster then mine (90's right?) But with that being said I will gladly go out and run with you. I am sure you will be at the run this Saturday so hopefully it is rough and we can have agreat time. By the way I thought Apache made the best rough water boat.:drink:

No offense to Ritchie it was meant as a joke but I think it funny that you guys think being called a democrat is an insult.