And you wonder why our sport is so confusing? I just read all the proposals on the " new classes". My boat does not run 90 and I'm not running P2 against any 100 mph boats and I'll just stick w/ APBA Pro Series. Not hard feelings guy's , I know your tying but damn - BH

Mike I wasn't implying anything toward your boat but since you brought it up I just read on your boats previous owners site that it ran 102??????

Brian, APBA is going through these same questions and issues. Hopefully OPA/Jersey Boyz will end up on the same page as APBA. You know they are all reading this thread for ideas so lets have em.

Ryan, why were you in the same class with a 112 mph OL??? I'm sure your boat runs about 92 t0 94 but what are your average lap speeds. The feeling I'm getting is that average lap speeds would be more relevent than top speed in perfect water. This would put you in P3 as your lap speed probably falls between 80 and 89mph.

Brian, your boat seems perfect for P3.

I am looking at an older Skater 32' with triple 2.5s. I expect to run in P2. With ocean racing props, this boat should not exceed 100 mph. I will not buy this boat if I am expected to compete in P1. Why isn't P X one of the classes for Kurt etc.?

Well Randy, what class will I be racing in?

Shawn

PJA those big 38 footers that you say only go 70 can run 68mph all day long in the ocean and should be able to hang with any P4 boat.If they need help with showing them how to run a boat at full speed I would be more than happy to work with them.It doesant belong in P5 because the team isant experianced.You have to learn in the right class and stop steeling someone elses thunder.True P5 boats have to earn there wins on skill not size and being in the wrong class.
Ryan my guess an OL with 900's is capable of 120mph and how do you belong with these guys?
Whats wrong with having the inspectors run some of the questionable boats prior to race day and test for speed,handaling,setup,prop size and RPM then make the call.
Some boats are easy and dont need to be done.
Randy

ryan,

from strictly a competitive standpoint, your 24' skater w/ t-200hp would run nicely with the current APBA P3 fleet. You might have a slight advantage in those rare "ideal" conditions (like st. cloud) but you would not dominate with such a small boat at the open water sites. what is ironic is that there is a 24' skater w/ t-2.4s on the glscs web site team profiles listed in P3. similar boats, similar power, both racing apba, in different classes?

Shawn
A 32 Skater with triple 2.5 would definaltley be a P1 boat it should run 110-115 set up properly.
Rob
The GLSCS seems to run under there own guide lines, I was told by officials that I HAD to run P2 one of whom was from GLSCS, but then the allow the same boat to run P3, Hell they have a 28 Skater running P2 in the Lakes most 28's that I know of run 110 plus!

Well Shawn I would agree with Ryan that a 32 with triples should run well over 100mph.But lets say it doesant and you have a inspector run with you at full speed and they determan that your RPMs are maxed with the props you have.Then you do belong in P2.But if Ryan has to run P2 in his 24 with twins how good would you feel beeting him.
Randy

We are working hard to find a way to run the P class boats, where everyone has a fair chance. The problem is not only do you have a bunch of boats where no two are alike, but you have race sites where no body of water is alike. If you classify the boats by total speed, in flat water the cats run away, in the rough the V's run away. So you wait till race day and see what mother nature has in store. If you run the boats on a average lap speed, it puts the strategy in the hands of the crew, you have to manage the coarse, and not bust out. In the North East we have placed the boats, by what the tech guys felt the boats could run,and have been fairly successful. However we were only running 3 to 5 boats in any given class. This coming season it looks more like 10 to 15 boats per class. I really feel we can handle this fairly easily at registration and tech inspection. For instance we already know how fast the boats are that we ran with last year, placing them is easy. It my take the first race to see where everyone else runs. You can look at lap speeds in any given class and see who was busting out, and then you move him up. Last year we ran P3, a lot of the races there were no boats in our class, our option was slow down and run with the slower boats or knuckle down and go after the P2 and P1 We always went after the faster boats. My point here is all the racers I have met dont want to go slow, I was told you run as hard as you can for as long as you can, If there is a guy out there sand bagging he my win, but he had nowhere near as much fun as you. And I'm sure we'll figure out real quick who is hold back. Right now we dont have the answere. GPS or telemetry is an option. How about the honesty of the racer. The love of the sport. And lets just go tear it up!!! Happy New Year to all Team Wazzup.

Eddie it sound good on paper!

New Idea.At the begining of the season list the boats that are racing and mail out a pole as to what class each of the boats should be in.Each boat will have size,top speed and make of boat.Let the fellow racers also decide on a boats class.If anyone modifies there boat during the season they must notifiy OPA with written changes and post it.Majority rules.
Or narrow it down to 10 tec. inspectors

Randy