people like mad dog are going to do whatever it take s to win races...period...the people behind him will always make excuses why HE does and not THEM....kinda human nature....someone once told me you can redistribute all the wealth and power in the world....but it's only a matter of time before it ends up right back where it came from...

he's also right about;....all of our testing with the 525's was done with less weight and the standard bravos...we were pleased...if rules were written as they are now,,,with out a doubt we would be in a 500 boat....and i would have a **** POT more vacation left instead of a list of time off without paydays.

also...most professional racing makes a rule change in a class and that's that....the newer stuff is the better way....the APBA still is trying to grandfather in.....and honestly not doing to bad of a job at it...how else do you explain world records, races, and championships are still being won by older boats and engines???

randy and bj,,,you have too much success in F1...i think we need to have you only run on 6 or 7....not all 8!!!

Your right on Pete!

here is another post so i have the last word on my opinion. :)

"nothing gives you skill like expierence"...i do not agree...true racers are racers...no matter what they are racing....i'm not even sure if it can be learned....everyone can walk on a 2x4 on the ground....start moving it up....at 10,000 feet it's still the same 2x4....how many people do you think can now walk it???

"and forces the smaller guys that dont have a large budget"....i'm going to vomit if i hear that again...kinda like when people tell me "genetics"....so much of testing has NOTHING to do with budget...TIME, DEDICATION, DISCIPLINE are some of the things that come to mind in any success story....there are A LOT more teams that more $$$ than us....

"and Joey if you didnt have the best boat out there do you think you would win???".....there are other DONZI's out there...why is mine better than theirs??? who won daytona last year in an old whipped POS boat?

Now i have to post one more time to get the last word in,
These are all your opinion and not nessisarily the same as others. But i still repect them, yours and others. dont agree but that again is my choice.

Please dont get sick on your keyboard they are hard to clean.

Testing takes time and money gas isnt free, at least not here, hell time isnt free you said so yourself, otherwise you would have more payed days off, to go test. Time, dedication, discipline are very important ingredients to success, but proper funding helps along the way!!

As for the 2x4 they are the same on the ground as at 10000 ft, the only difference is the sudden stop if you misjudge your next step.

As for your boat it is the latest and greatest technolgy the boating industry has to offer, I have admired that boat since it was debuted. as a racer, you have choosen a awesome piece of equipment. but if it is true a racer can win in anything, why didnt you try bayliner???

where is the whipped POS this year??? is it not worthy of racing anymore? not competitive??? these are all the factors i speak of when people look at budgets.

we can go back and forth all day, and all we have accomplished is wasting time at work, my opinion is still mine and yours yours!
now let me have the last word :) see you in marathon. drive safe getting there.

p.s. your boats also has 525's , LOL

Are you saying Keith's boat is an old whipped POS?

just quoted from Audacity

pete...no way your get'n the last word in bro!!!LOL...:D

a few days at the lake with a few hammers and some weight goes a long way!!!A LONG WAY.....teams like virgin, utz, donzi, teague and so on.... will tell you about the time they spend....not so much the money....

"but if it is true a racer can win in anything, why didnt you try bayliner???"...great question!...because racing is NOT JUST ABOUT winning...again, we look at this from a very professional standpoint...a quote:"“We are very excited to be a part of the Donzi racing family this year,” said Skrocki. “Not only are we excited about the new boat itself, we are thrilled to be part of the Donzi marketing machine that’s raising the visibility of this sport. Our goal is to be number one with our sponsors, number one with our promotional activities and number one across the finish line.”


my point is....i sure do hear of teams testing....but they don't have one page of documentation on the testing conducted...let alone a book....lets face it paper and pencil don't cost that much...all the data in the world doesn't mean **** without documentation.

and the boat i was in last year can come back this year and WIN with the right people behind it...110% without a doubt and do it never cracking 88 mph!

"is"...i have no idea of the condition of the boat currently....so i can not speak for it....if you would like to compare the boat we are in now to the boat i was in last year??? what would you rather be it??