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Old 08-15-2005 | 12:26 AM
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Frank and Ron, chill out, for heavens sake you both love the same sport and lord knows we don't have enough fans or competitors to be shooting each other.
Ron as to your question about APBA/UIM records: I cannot speak for the NC records as I wasn't there and don't know what specific records they were going for. As it relates to your other question about when new records can be sent, let me answer: When you obtain a sanction for a (APBA) KILO you have a choice of either APBA records or also APBA/UIM records. Each sanction creates a new opportunity to set or break an existing record. If you had an event one weekend and established new records, they would be good until the next sanctioned event. That next event could be the following weekend, and if faster speeds were posted and the event were sanctioned for the same record as the prior weekends KILOS, you would then establish a new record. If a boat breaks a record or sets a record say on a Saturday KILO, and another boat in the same class goes even faster than the previous boat, the highest speed of the day will be considered the new record.

Hope that clears it up for you. Frank, good luck in the upcoming races and Ron keep writing the good stuff about the sport

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Old 08-15-2005 | 10:19 AM
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I spoke with "Pops" Friday about the Chattanooga race and there WILL BE Kilo runs on Friday and lap records on Saturday, then the race on Sunday. Also the P classes will get to join in on the lap records as each p class boat will be trying to get as close to the break out lap speed with out going over and the ones that get the closest to there class's limit wins. I encourage all racers to attend as this will be a great event and hope to make it an annual one.
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Old 08-15-2005 | 10:36 AM
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Thanks Steve, as always, nice clear answers with a professional attitude.
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Old 08-15-2005 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by SteveDavid
Frank and Ron, chill out, for heavens sake you both love the same sport and lord knows we don't have enough fans or competitors to be shooting each other.
Ron as to your question about APBA/UIM records: I cannot speak for the NC records as I wasn't there and don't know what specific records they were going for. As it relates to your other question about when new records can be sent, let me answer: When you obtain a sanction for a (APBA) KILO you have a choice of either APBA records or also APBA/UIM records. Each sanction creates a new opportunity to set or break an existing record. If you had an event one weekend and established new records, they would be good until the next sanctioned event. That next event could be the following weekend, and if faster speeds were posted and the event were sanctioned for the same record as the prior weekends KILOS, you would then establish a new record. If a boat breaks a record or sets a record say on a Saturday KILO, and another boat in the same class goes even faster than the previous boat, the highest speed of the day will be considered the new record.

Hope that clears it up for you. Frank, good luck in the upcoming races and Ron keep writing the good stuff about the sport

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If a record is set down wind..... and the wind changes between attempts...... and the record is set on the international date line...... and the driver has dysentery......... does Edgar Rose's...rarely used......

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Old 08-15-2005 | 08:33 PM
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From what I was told, the Washington Kilo records were not UIM sanctioned and are only SBI/APBA.

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Old 08-15-2005 | 09:39 PM
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Ron P,
"Just for the record", I think you and EMB are doing an outstanding job!!! Keep up the good work... I look forward to my subscription every month.

Sorry to butt in on this thread... Everyone else, just continue on your ways.

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Old 08-15-2005 | 11:18 PM
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T2X,

That wind you and I hear is the velocity and volume of air movement between and thru our ears with little in the way to slow it down............................. Luv ya Rich! Best to Darren.

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Old 08-16-2005 | 10:04 AM
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so what was NC kilo SBI /APBA and no UIM ? Was it World records or international ? What would the diff be anyhow.

What will the Kilo's in Tenn. be from a sanctioning
standpoint, (if there are kilo's in Tenn.) ?

if you ran NC and it was not UIM and Tenn is UIM then wouldn't the NC record stand as an APBA /SBI record and any UIM sanctioned Kilo be set apart from APBA /SBI/WPR



I'm a bit confused also.
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Old 08-16-2005 | 11:09 AM
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A world record is one granted by UIM and if held in the US would be sanctioned by the APBA. If held in another country, it would be sanctioned by the National Authority of that country that is also a UIM member. If one were seeking a world record in say SVL, and SVL had the same rules worldwide, then wherever the event was held, be it Panama, Russia, the US, Japan, etc. it would be the world record for SVL.
If the KILO event were sanctioned by any other group, it would be a record within that group. EG: An SBI/APBA record would be an SBI/APBA record, same for OPA etc.
While confusing, we've nothing on the confusion in sports car racing between IRL, CART, SCCA, IMSA, AmericanLeMans, etc. etc. Or ARCA, NASCAR Northwest, Busch, Nextel etc. or the various dirt car organizations. We tend to think we're the only motorsport screwed up, yet we're in league with some pretty heavy company.
The strength in the UIM certification is the worldwide acceptance of UIM and it's 120 plus member nations as the ultimate arbiter of "World". While here in the US our fractionalization has reduced the perceived value of UIM, other nations still hold it in high esteem. UIM recognizes only one national authority in each country, and in the US that is APBA. Maybe, someday, we can hold a joint KILO event in the USA for every organization under the sun and there would thus be one world record holder in each of the recognized classes. The challenge would be adoption of technical rules that would embrace the "whole" event.
There are some pretty bright folks within OSS, OPA, POPBRA, APBA/SBI etc which leaves open the possibility of possibilities

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