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These are just questions on how to help people. There is no right or wrong answer. Its all good feed back and wish more people would post that have boats. It sounds like the traveling time is a big problem for most. I will tell the board at OSS that they may want to try and keep more races in the N.East or at least in the Atlantic Ocean. If more people respond that this is what it would take maybe its something they should look at. Lou if you feel that OPA is good for you then by all means keep at it. I am just wondering if there are people that want to get in a canopy but just cant and why.
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The question really is what will it take for someone to invest more time and money into racing with OSS? (Since OPA doesn't yet have a spec class) For me it would take the chance for TV exposure, huge purses and serious manufacturer support. In my opinion, if someone dedicates so much to racing they should be able to make money at it if they are reasonably successfull. Not paying to put the race on. I live in St Clair and I can tell you the impact of that race is enormous to the city.(Thank you Ed Smith) What we should be discussing is how to get Detroit, Cleveland, New York and other mega market cities to raise some serious $$$ and tv coverage. If you have $100k purses racers will race where the $$$ is.
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I believe Hagen is attempting to do just that. It takes a great show on TV to get people excited and to put on a great show you need a action packed fleet of boats. And in my opinion that would take 10-20 boats for that class to create that kind of excitment. If everyone sits and has the lets see what happens attitude no one will show. I think if Hagen is willing to take a shot at this sport and put up big money to move it forward we should all take this oppertunity. This may never happen again in our sport. People dont have to run the whole OSS year if they cant get the time but do as many as possable would be a start. You are all family to me and if there is a desire for any of you please call me and maybe we can help in some way by brain storming together.
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We are a new race team that had to make the OPA or OSS choice. We bought a bare 30'phantom. We have chosen to run OPA for the following reasons
1. no entry fee's
2. we live in the north east
3.We have no racing experience and feel OSS SVL would be out of our league at the present time.
4.It will take alot of set up time and experience to get our older phantom competative in OSS SVL we would wrather get this experience closer to home and without paying entry fee's.
5. the cost of a new 525efi vs P class motor
If all goes well and we get some experience and are ready to step up we will spend the money and race some OSS races in 2008. We are setting the boat up to OSS SVL specs except the motor so it will be easy to make the move.
Hope this might give you guys a Greenhorns view at making the choice we are very new to this but want to make a go of it.
Scott and Eddie
1. no entry fee's
2. we live in the north east
3.We have no racing experience and feel OSS SVL would be out of our league at the present time.
4.It will take alot of set up time and experience to get our older phantom competative in OSS SVL we would wrather get this experience closer to home and without paying entry fee's.
5. the cost of a new 525efi vs P class motor
If all goes well and we get some experience and are ready to step up we will spend the money and race some OSS races in 2008. We are setting the boat up to OSS SVL specs except the motor so it will be easy to make the move.
Hope this might give you guys a Greenhorns view at making the choice we are very new to this but want to make a go of it.
Scott and Eddie
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We are a new race team that had to make the OPA or OSS choice. We bought a bare 30'phantom. We have chosen to run OPA for the following reasons
1. no entry fee's
2. we live in the north east
3.We have no racing experience and feel OSS SVL would be out of our league at the present time.
4.It will take alot of set up time and experience to get our older phantom competative in OSS SVL we would wrather get this experience closer to home and without paying entry fee's.
5. the cost of a new 525efi vs P class motor
If all goes well and we get some experience and are ready to step up we will spend the money and race some OSS races in 2008. We are setting the boat up to OSS SVL specs except the motor so it will be easy to make the move.
Hope this might give you guys a Greenhorns view at making the choice we are very new to this but want to make a go of it.
Scott and Eddie
1. no entry fee's
2. we live in the north east
3.We have no racing experience and feel OSS SVL would be out of our league at the present time.
4.It will take alot of set up time and experience to get our older phantom competative in OSS SVL we would wrather get this experience closer to home and without paying entry fee's.
5. the cost of a new 525efi vs P class motor
If all goes well and we get some experience and are ready to step up we will spend the money and race some OSS races in 2008. We are setting the boat up to OSS SVL specs except the motor so it will be easy to make the move.
Hope this might give you guys a Greenhorns view at making the choice we are very new to this but want to make a go of it.
Scott and Eddie
The extra money (maybe 10k) you lay out now, will save you a hell of a lot more on custom build motors and headaches down the road. Just my 2 cents speaking from experience.
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LOL hey Bruce I just emailed you about your motor for sale. We hear ya on the 525efi thing its what we really want to do but we have so much damn cash to spend on this pig to get it race ready. we are keeping our motor options open though a 525 would be great and make more sense in the long run
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Very interesting reading and a great thread! Many well thought out points of views and ideas. I raced some in 2000 in P-5 Class, was just about when P class started as an organized enter level class. Had a daughter, then a son and had to get out of racing for a bit. Plan to get back into it in 2008. Looking forward to race in OPA and P-Class. I like the OPA no red tape, no hypocrisy, no hidden political agenda way of doing things. Doesn’t seem to be any feuds in that sanction. What was intriguing for me in P-Class, where many factors:
Just my .02 cents as an offshore race fan foremost and a racer second. Like I said, very interesting thread here and great input & points of view!
Johnny
- Run what ya brung
- Fairly inexpensive & cost is really up to you! (like drag racing/bracket racing: More Speed=more $$$) but your really racing brackets and the bracket=speed-money
- Had a vast array of boats, great mix!
- No egos really, just FUN times and some bragging rights!
- Plus as a fan of the sport first and racer second, I could relate to P-Class open cockpit boats to my own boats and friend's and family’s boats. Kind of like how some like NHRA Drag Racing Pro Stock Class, you can relate the car’s body type to your own street machine (not like a funny car class so much and definitely not like a dragster)
- I kind of like to see the guys who tow their own boats to the race with their family and their SUV’s and all and make it a family weekend sport and a family trip/vacation at the same time.
- It seems to be more related to the “Average Joe” every day man’s sport.
- Kind of a grass roots racing run what ya brung.
- Race your boat on Saturday and take your boat on a cruise with family on Sunday.
Just my .02 cents as an offshore race fan foremost and a racer second. Like I said, very interesting thread here and great input & points of view!
Johnny
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Johnny, I dont know if we have ever met. I love the way you think. I wonder sometimes why we do the things we do. It is all because we are bigger fans than we are racers. Well spoken. I hope you find the time to join us. As a racer or a fan, makes no difference. Smitty