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TYPHOON 11-17-2007 04:53 PM

P5 rules
 
Now the season is over and teams have time to evaluate there program, they most likely are thinking about more power for there boats if they were running middle of the pack. Is there anything we should talk about in class 5 or is it OK for all. I remember not to long ago I was not aloud to run in class 5 with my 500 EFI and now its OK to build 700 hp for this class. Should we evaluate some motor restrictions or just pocket book race. With more purse money next year lets not lose focus on equality of teams. Class 5 is killer racing but why wouldnt someone build a 30' boat with a # 6 drive and 800 HP and prop to 75 MPH. Its not outside the rules as it stands. Class 6 has unlimited power rules as well. Just trying to tighten up the rules just a little so it doesn't turn into has the most money to build the biggest power.
A suggestion might be class 6 has a max HP of 450 and class 5 has a max of 600 HP.
MD

chriscarbone 11-17-2007 05:39 PM

Randy Deff A Good Point, They Should Get Alittle Tighter With The Rules Since The Money Is Going To Draw A Bigger Crowd Of Boats,
But Everyone Is Going To Have To Get Together And Figure Out How To Tighten It Up, Maybe The Weight Vs Hp Or Something, Its Just Hard To Put A Max Hp On A Class If There Are Lighter Step Bottom Verse A Standard Heavy V,

But We Should Start Looking At It Now So Everyone Can Start Getting Ready. Opa Was The $hit Last Year And Its Just Going To Get Better This Year With Wat There Bringin To The Plate..

2 Trick Rick 11-17-2007 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by TYPHOON (Post 2339109)
30' boat with a # 6 drive and 800 HP and prop to 75 MPH.
MD

It's only a 28ft with a #4.

2 Trick Rick 11-17-2007 06:09 PM

In all seriousness I do agree. Keep class 6 as it was intended, entry level than “govern” class 5, Problem is how do we assure that the engines are only 450 or 600hp with out going into sealed motors?

sbracing 11-17-2007 06:36 PM

I agree. Pete & I had a hard time keeping up in class 6 with a
bone stock 496 MAG HO(425HP) with a stock Bravo I. I would like to see a HP limit of around 500.. The issue again is how to enforce it.
No one wants all that teardown/tech crap.


Rich
UNDERTOW 611

jeff1000man 11-17-2007 06:48 PM

Hmmmm:cool-smiley-011:

fantastixvoyage 11-17-2007 07:58 PM

My suggestion regard hp limits? Start with class 6. I know there was some strong arguments against it last year and RIGHTFULLY so but there needs to be a time to make the switch.

The rules are what governs how someone builds the boat for the class they want to run. Until rules strictly state you can or cannot do something then its obviously gonna be deemed acceptable. The best racers are those that take their racing AND building to the edge.

Why start with class 6? Because I feel 6 is the perfect class to get newbies involved in the sport with minimal cash outlay. This year no one could honestly say it was a beginner class...not by a long shot! I'd like to see more of a focus on making 6 more entry level friendly. Maybe even make a one or two season max in 6 or after X wins you move up. Just a thought.

For the other classes to be governed 5 would be the only one that would be a maybe. Why? Because so much plays into the overall rig...hp, weight, length, i/o or o/b, etc. If it is to governed I say tread lightly because it is such a great class already!!! For the other classes, very tough to govern such a variety, just let speed dictate these upper classes. I think the fans like to see a variety. Not hard for them to understand all the 4s are racing 4s, 3s vs 3s, etc. Cool to see the vee vs. cat, stern vs. o/b, etc. I do agree 100% that if any revisions are being considered they be brought up early so boats can be built to that spec before next season. If it is decided this is in the best interest of the class / organization of course.

THEJOKER 11-17-2007 08:07 PM

Now you guy's are talking!

sbracing 11-17-2007 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by fantastixvoyage (Post 2339219)
My suggestion regard hp limits? Start with class 6. I know there was some strong arguments against it last year and RIGHTFULLY so but there needs to be a time to make the switch.

The rules are what governs how someone builds the boat for the class they want to run. Until rules strictly state you can or cannot do something then its obviously gonna be deemed acceptable. The best racers are those that take their racing AND building to the edge.

Why start with class 6? Because I feel 6 is the perfect class to get newbies involved in the sport with minimal cash outlay. This year no one could honestly say it was a beginner class...not by a long shot! I'd like to see more of a focus on making 6 more entry level friendly. Maybe even make a one or two season max in 6 or after X wins you move up. Just a thought.

For the other classes to be governed 5 would be the only one that would be a maybe. Why? Because so much plays into the overall rig...hp, weight, length, i/o or o/b, etc. If it is to governed I say tread lightly because it is such a great class already!!! For the other classes, very tough to govern such a variety, just let speed dictate these upper classes. I think the fans like to see a variety. Not hard for them to understand all the 4s are racing 4s, 3s vs 3s, etc. Cool to see the vee vs. cat, stern vs. o/b, etc. I do agree 100% that if any revisions are being considered they be brought up early so boats can be built to that spec before next season. If it is decided this is in the best interest of the class / organization of course.

I agree 6 needs to be entry level, but I disagree with the ideas
of moving up after 2 seasons or X wins. Class 5 would be
a bigger investment for us as our motor would be too small
and the boat would be too short. (Something my wife once told me). If we can keep a lid on the HP, I think it
would be attractive for rookies as well as established teams on limited budgets.\

Rich
undertow

2 Trick Rick 11-17-2007 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by sbracing (Post 2339230)
I agree 6 needs to be entry level, but I disagree with the ideas
of moving up after 2 seasons or X wins. Class 5 would be
a bigger investment for us as our motor would be too small
and the boat would be too short. (Something my wife once told me). If we can keep a lid on the HP, I think it
would be attractive for rookies as well as established teams on limited budgets.

True, Entry level could not only mean "experience" it could also carry over to "equipment" - as in Class 6 is for "entry level teams" and/or " entry level equipment"

Get people hooked.. than they may go out and refi-the house and get a 35 canopied race boat in the later years and this in turn helps the sport grow.


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