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Originally Posted by Wazzup Racing
(Post 2390068)
There are a number of teams that will be stepping up this year. They just dont know it yet. Smitty
Welcome to class 4! Just stay outta class five! :evilb: I'm all for building the boat for the class and until there's technical specs to build to or hp limits placed there will always be teams pushing the envelope with hp. As stated a million times its all about acceleration. |
What are you talking about Smitty?( If it doesnt go my way) What does this have to do with me. Im responding to another racers post about big HP in a boat and responding to what I think. The rules are locked down for another year. Trust me I get it!!!!!!!! A lot of people are going to get there a$$ kicked based on those rules for one more year. Not everyone including myself will build more power for there boat. It is what it is. Some people can make up for it with talent and some cant. Im sorry if I cant get the FAIR thing out of my head.
PS Just a thought, you might want to let the teams that you are moving up know in advance before they show at the first race. Whatever back at ya. MD |
Randy, I do understand the fair thing. It is called spec class. We are not spec so along comes all the multiple engine-boat combinations. It is as close as it is going to get. I do think class 6 and 5 should be a pump gas class. This will help. Why not race the Xtreme with Octane and Bruce ? If you did, I could insure that Miklos would come. Not to take away from your OSS racing, But if there is a gap in the schedule, why not. Then you have the fair thing. Again I will offer up no fee, and 5K a race. It just seems that every time we start this conversation it goes no where.
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Hey Guys, help me out here. The way I see it is if Miss Geico wants to run lets say p3 class and never brakesout then that's fair. I feel that the opa system is about as fair as it gets. If you run 1500hp and only go 95mph then you can run p3. If at any time you go over 95mph you are dqed. Very simple. The gps system is one of the best things out there. YOU CAN"T CHEAT THE SPEEDS. We ran p2 all last year and never won. The boat was just not up for it. So we tried to run p3 and found our spot. we were beat on the turns but evenup on the straights. Tells me we need to perfect our turning. Also setup is the next biggest thing. I don't care how much power you have, if you can't drive it you won't win it. I can't see how every boat having the same power would make things that much fairer. Also i'm sure if there is a dispute about how the boat runs, there is a way to take it out and run with an offical. If you don't like that then you must have something to hide.
Smitty.................great job with the OPA. If you don't like the playing field then make your own. The masses will go where they feel things are fair. |
Man its going to be a looong winter :hitfan:
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Originally Posted by scottc
(Post 2389939)
That boat did run like h&!l in Cambridge, due to was set up to run at max plus. In Chatt, Art took it to his magic shop and dialed it in to do what the rules required. In testing,it would never go past 85mph. If the chip was removed or a higher one put in it would run more. But that what it's about, staying in your bracket. Lots of boats are more than able to break out if adjustment are changed. Also there is the balls or experience that the team running the boat has. I feel most of the races are won in the turns, all are able to hit there top speed in the straights but some can bust ass in the turns where others must slow way down.
Side note on that boat...............it is for sale!!!!! And i have to beleive that Mocean ran a whole lot more than 85 on Closed Course day at Chattanooga. |
The way I heard it was, it was Art's son's 1st race....
To me there is a simple solution....and as it was explained to me when I started racing in OPA....is that racers don't decide where they race....So if there is a concern about another teams placement in a class becasue of HP and a boats cabibility you take it up to Smitty and state your case.... Now remember....just because you feel you think your statment is the right one...dose not always make you right...but the main thing to remember is OPA's door is always open for comments or concerns.... Every racing Org has racers that feels one way or another things are not fair...even in spec racing....that will never change....even going back to the old APBA days when there was 80 boat racing....you will never please everyone....but if the officals are willing to sit down and talk to you....thats more then fair.... |
[QUOTE=Wazzup Racing; I do think class 6 and 5 should be a pump gas class. This will help.
What now I need to add a Supercharger to make power on Pump Gas :eek: |
Funny Guy.....Dont you have some snow to shovel or something?
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[QUOTE=TylerCrockett;2391281][QUOTE=Wazzup Racing; I do think class 6 and 5 should be a pump gas class. This will help.
What now I need to add a Supercharger to make power on Pump Gas :eek:[/QUOTE] Nah just more cubes! 598" for class 6 should be about right...:cool-smiley-011: |
Its funny....I heard a lot about Tyler in class 6 and how unfair it is....but when you look at the results....only 2 boats made every race in class 6, Tyler and a one design....
and Undertow finished less then 50 pionts behind Tyler.... So actually....if Undertow could have made the 1st race which everyone got 50 points.....611 Undertow would have won the points championship.....and I could be wrong...but is this not the boat who was sinking when it came in at Point Plesant with all the hull damage....and what would the standings have looked like if all Class 6 boats made all the races.....Tyler may have dropped to 3 or 4th place in the point standings... Now don't get me wrong...I believe there has to be a cap on HP to keep it fair....but with big HP you loose reliablity.....but thats up to the officals to decide on.... |
Hey Gino, Attendence and reliability never hurts!
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Originally Posted by Wazzup Racing
(Post 2390068)
I could be wrong here, but wasn't class 4 dominated by phantoms all with either 500 hp's or 525's ? There will be no huge power crushing classes. There are a number of teams that will be stepping up this year. They just dont know it yet. You ran well in that class, for your first year of racing, in the Phantom. Hang in there. Smitty
Thanks Smitty Scott and I and our families had a great time this year. We did run well looking forward to June :boat::Score-101010: See you in feb :drink::food-smiley-009: Thanks Eddie TEAM OCTANE 411 |
Originally Posted by TylerCrockett
(Post 2389895)
We can custom paint it to match your boat :D
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[QUOTE I do think class 6 and 5 should be a pump gas class. This will help. .[/QUOTE]
Makes sense to me, didn't know anyone was running fuel in 5 0r 6. |
Originally Posted by fastedy
(Post 2392554)
didn't know anyone was running fuel in 5 0r 6. :confused: Were they running peanut oil? |
Anyone can set up a centrifugal to make sick power on pump gas and live, I don't think race fuel is real power gainer or limiter on those boats.
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Originally Posted by fastedy
(Post 2392554)
[QUOTE I do think class 6 and 5 should be a pump gas class. This will help. .
We can make 800 HP on pump gas no problem. Maybe we should run V6 engines...... :D |
Originally Posted by Bilgerat
(Post 2392713)
Anyone can set up a centrifugal to make sick power on pump gas and live, I don't think race fuel is real power gainer or limiter on those boats.
Race gas might be cheaper by the time racing season starts. Plus the engines will probally last longer and save a lot of pistons and head gaskets especially with the guys turning higher RPM. |
Use Olive Oil!:cool-smiley-027:
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Originally Posted by TylerCrockett
(Post 2392821)
We can make 800 HP on pump gas no problem. Maybe we should run V6 engines...... :D I like the OPA Rules, I like the OPA "Bracket System" and if I wanted to race spec boats I would re-mortgage my house, buy a boat and race against 2 other people. |
QUOTE: I like the OPA "Bracket System" and if I wanted to race spec boats I would re-mortgage my house, buy a boat and race against 2 other people.
OWCH..........I think more and more racers are seeing there are more boats to compete with in bracket racing and a lot of the races have more deck to deck racing for the top spots and the cost is so much cheaper to run in..... Its amazing how the tables have changed in just 3 years.... But after a great year in 07....to look ahead to 08 can be nothing but exciting.... P4 should be a hudge class again for 08..... |
Originally Posted by 2 Trick Rick
(Post 2392921)
I like the OPA Rules, I like the OPA "Bracket System" and if I wanted to race spec boats I would re-mortgage my house, buy a boat and race against 2 other people.
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race fuel
We plan on running 110 octane fuel in our class 5 boat. Todays fuels suck , it's to hard on pistons and valve train. My race motor is set up to run on 110, whats the problem? Our speed is 75 MPH. Fuel is not going to change that. " It doesn't matter how fast I get there. I just can't go over." Just think how good that fuel will smell, comming out our tractor stacks. yum,yum:D
Reiter Racing 553 Secret Squirrel |
I do love the smell of octane in the morning
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