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Originally Posted by Wahoo ATV
(Post 3276747)
If breaking out is cheating, Has Tyler ever NOT cheated?
Just let it go................ |
Originally Posted by PARADISE ISLAND
(Post 3276725)
Frank has no ethics& is a jail bird if he likes you fine if not break out time:bsflag:
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Originally Posted by 2 Trick Rick
(Post 3276756)
Are we back to the Fountain thing again ??
Just let it go................ |
Originally Posted by sbracing
(Post 3276711)
Ok we will call it "actions detrimental to Offshore Racing"
but penalty is the same. If the guy who ran all the laps breaks out, then the guy who broke out 10 feet in is more deserving. Case in point - Super Cat. Originally it was a BIG hp class and totally bad a$$ I might add. However the teams couldn't keep the boats together and it would seem a majority of the fleet would breakdown leaving little to no show for the spectators & promoters. Getting sidetracked but just wanted to state that breakdowns are just as, if not more, detrimental to the sport. Class 5 & 6 are always touchy on these topics how about some input from the faster classes? |
Originally Posted by 2 Trick Rick
(Post 3276723)
Class 5 & 6 are ALMOST identical with size and speed, and most everyone agrees that we have to many classes but are not willing to sacrifice or change "my" Class.
We are racing and competing and we should be scored against people who actually competed the full event (not a "few" laps") . I think either way you will lose racers - those 6 boats that cannot or simply do not want to invest in higher hp or the class 5 racers who enjoy the big hp. I say leave it as it is. One thing I did think about at worlds...if organizations were to limit the number of classes how much of raceday would actually be filled with racing??? Worlds have 3 races/starts PER DAY and there still seemed to be long delays in the day. Less classes equal less starts which equal less racing action in the course of a raceday in my opinion. Whats the big deal with 6 performance classes then the big dogs in spec classes come out? Seems to make for a pretty filled day raceday. |
"Think about it this way - who is more deserving of points the guy who broke 10ft into the race or the guy who runs all the laps???
As for who should win in certain scenerios I think the guys who break are out first (placed in the order they break), the guys who run all the laps (putting on a great show in the process) but break out finish ahead of those that broke and those that run a clean race the win. " I like this!!! Great Idea!!! |
Originally Posted by fantastixvoyage
(Post 3276855)
Rick quick question - how would those classes be combined? Most view class 6 as the entry level with the 500hp rule. Class 5 is where the real power begins (or at least according to the rulebook). Are you suggesting the 5/6 class run 500hp or that 5/6 run 5 engines (basically just no blowers)?
I think either way you will lose racers - those 6 boats that cannot or simply do not want to invest in higher hp or the class 5 racers who enjoy the big hp. I say leave it as it is. One thing I did think about at worlds...if organizations were to limit the number of classes how much of raceday would actually be filled with racing??? Worlds have 3 races/starts PER DAY and there still seemed to be long delays in the day. Less classes equal less starts which equal less racing action in the course of a raceday in my opinion. Whats the big deal with 6 performance classes then the big dogs in spec classes come out? Seems to make for a pretty filled day raceday. Look at the Class 6 World Champ, hes running a 385hp Crockett built blower motor.. Just seems class 6 is called entry level, when that's not close to true.. |
Originally Posted by 2 Trick Rick
(Post 3276905)
Look at the Class 6 World Champ, hes running a 385hp Crockett built blower motor.. A 525 is minimum for class 5. Again thats barely 1hp per cubic inch. Childs play. Then again they are close to 575-600hp with some tweaks too. I like class 5 because it opens up options for those that like to build motors - one of the main reason the spec classes are almost boring to me. The engines are sealed blackboxes. Now bring back an A-class rule setup combined with a hp/wt ratio and GAME ON!!! Class has a lot of engine builders in it - Wazzup, PFE, Crockett, Saris, next year Champion, etc.
Originally Posted by 2 Trick Rick
(Post 3276905)
Just seems class 6 is called entry level, when that's not close to true..
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BTW I want to make sure this thread doesnt head down the path of so many threads on OSO.
I am all for open discussion and feel the most input leads to the best solution. :coolcowboy: |
Originally Posted by 2 Trick Rick
(Post 3276905)
Horsepower is not King in class 6 or 5, Just look at the Class 5 World Champ, hes running a 525hp...
Look at the Class 6 World Champ, hes running a 385hp Crockett built blower motor.. Just seems class 6 is called entry level, when that's not close to true.. |
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