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Old 10-15-2011 | 11:20 PM
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Are the twin outboards still allowed in class 5 or only the ones that are grandfathered? or none? Assumedly no outboards allowed in class 6 right? Will the horsepower be policed at all in 6 for 2012?
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Old 10-16-2011 | 09:37 PM
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Who was that over the bow shot looking at.
You could run a single outboard in 6 if you wanted.
Twin outboards in 5 are the grandfathered ones only.

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Old 10-16-2011 | 09:44 PM
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Are the twin outboards still allowed in class 5 or only the ones that are grandfathered? or none? Assumedly no outboards allowed in class 6 right? Will the horsepower be policed at all in 6 for 2012?
SOB in 6 I think?
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Old 10-16-2011 | 09:49 PM
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sob who in class 6 pretty much everybody in the class are great people .
And the boats with extra power are still proped to run at or neer 70 mph.

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Old 10-17-2011 | 07:33 AM
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Are the twin outboards still allowed in class 5 or only the ones that are grandfathered? or none? Assumedly no outboards allowed in class 6 right? Will the horsepower be policed at all in 6 for 2012?
Single outboard in 6. Smitty is looking at HP issue.
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Old 10-17-2011 | 09:21 AM
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I am not disrespecting the guys who are set up for 6 with big power. Not a shot at PFE I love that boat. I know Tyler built his engine wiht tons of experience and has it cammed to make power where it needs to, then quit. But simply propping a monster down to run 70 or blazing around on the chip is a little silly. I think if you have a 75 mph capable 26' boat you should run in 6. You want to be able to hit top speed of your class. 75 capable 26' wouldn't really have a chance in 5. I want to come out and race, but I am not going without at least a chance to be in the front. I am not saying you need a boat that can't breakout, As i agree a speed limit is a limit. But if you have killer torque you can pull out turns and squirt ahead and then it is not really a race but more of a dog chasing a rabbit thing. I raced against one single engine yellow phantom once, in smooth water race, the thing was a total monster, I would have been able to out turn and pull any std. SVL (90 + capable boats ) but this thing had so much power he would just squirt the throttle any where after a turn and shoot ahead. It was the most frustrating thing to be chasing around a boat that didn't belong in our class with no possibility of getting ahead. And I was close. SBI has screwed up their classes, and OPA is the place to race with consistent rules, I just want to be competitive, the boat I'm working on now will be a class 6 rig, but again I don't want to drive from Missouri to Jersey just to play in the wakes of the front runners, You can get all the rough messed up water you want right here in the Ozarks, I wanna race to win.
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Old 10-17-2011 | 09:40 AM
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[QUOTE=Bilgerat;3529176] .

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Old 10-17-2011 | 10:00 AM
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This seems to be heading toward the great SPEED LIMITED racing vs. NON-SPEED LIMITED racing debate.



Gary and I still test and try different props, drive height, we moved weight (added some) and work trying to get the boat to turn better than any boat out on the course.

Instead of spending time getting that last mph on top the boat is set up for acceleration. Gary has spend countless hours playing with cam/head combos to get our low compression pump gas motor to pull as hard (or in many cases) harder than HI-Compression race gas motors.

Both are great forms of racing but for us OPA/Bracket racing is king.

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Old 10-17-2011 | 10:16 AM
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Old 10-17-2011 | 10:42 AM
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Bilgerat i know what you mean but i will give you example we ran my boat this weekend with my backup engine that is 600 hp with a big wheel on it it still ran 90 by the way we found the problem why we lost speed at loto.
But proped with our race wheel it will run 75 mph.
Most of the boats in the class can run 75 or so i do know the cotner boys need and want more power because they run on the number but dont get there fast so they have to do it in the turns but if you start on the outside it makes it tough to get up front.
You also need to remember having the extra power its easy to break out take it from me.
Also for 2012 if you break out and kill the class you will be moved up a class.

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