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SCBoater 07-07-2008 03:45 PM

2007 outerlimits
 
I just wanted to say hello and that I'm new to the board. The wife and I are getting ready to jump into our first powerboat. We are getting ready to pull the triger on a 46 Limited with twin 1075's in her. I've mostly boated on lakes so far but always wanted to get into teh open water stuff. The questions we have are I'm going to be doing some traveling up and down teh east coast with teh boat going to different water. will my F450 (4.88 rear pull the boat nice) and what kind of performance numbers am I to expect from a boat like this. I've look at a lot of boats. and have it narrowed down to a outerlimits. (just love the boats and they just fit well) we are also looking at their 51' also. same engine set up. just wonder which one you guys like????

Jassman 07-07-2008 07:21 PM

Welcome to the board. The OL 46 is a great model..actually one of my favorites personally. Your F450 is suffecient for that task. I have a 43' Nor-tech which is heavier by 1000 pounds and pull it with a F350..no problems. Are you looking at a relatively new/used one or building one.. Also check into the Tres martin School, well worth it..you can never learn to much, especially with that power... Thanks and good luck..hope to see ya on some poker runs..Jeff

young.gun 07-07-2008 08:13 PM

Welcome! Outerlimits is a great boat and company, I couldn't be happier with them! Customer service is SECOND TO NONE, absolute best of the best! I like the 46 also and with those engines I believe you will be in mid 120's.

The boat course is an absolute must have!!

superstar 07-07-2008 11:17 PM

sc boater may have just what your looking for call me 917-682-2620 rob

tblrklakemo 07-08-2008 10:18 AM

I want to be like you when I grow up.


Powerboat Mag tested your rig...here is the write-up.

http://www.powerboatmag.com/outerlim...d-edition.html

BraceYourself 07-08-2008 04:25 PM

No matter how much you don't care about throwing money away, that boat is the worst boat for you to buy... With no ownership experience, in this league you will break so much stuff just from in experience. Also to fast and I hope you're a good swimmer. All that being said the 46 with 1075's is a great choice. Not by any means should a first time buyer be allowed to buy. Here goes our insurance premiums.

tblrklakemo 07-08-2008 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by BraceYourself (Post 2616188)
No matter how much you don't care about throwing money away, that boat is the worst boat for you to buy... With no ownership experience, in this league you will break so much stuff just from in experience. Also to fast and I hope you're a good swimmer. All that being said the 46 with 1075's is a great choice. Not by any means should a first time buyer be allowed to buy. Here goes our insurance premiums.



Okay, let me rephrase. Your buying a 1million+$, 120+ mph, 2150hp, and 46 foot boat...as your FIRST powerboat? Wow.

BraceYourself 07-08-2008 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by tblrklakemo (Post 2616209)
He must know something if he is buyin a million dollar boat that will do 120+. I wouldnt jump the gun yet.



He said it was his first powerboat. Knowing somethng and driving a boat at mid 120's on the edge is another. I think boatbuilders would agree but however would sell the boat in a heartbeat. Didn't outerlimits have a condition that to buy their bigger boats you had to be a previous owner of their boats.

Jupiter Sunsation 07-08-2008 07:21 PM

Sc Boater,

Better check the maintenance intervals on those 1075's. Did you know the 100 hour service is about $52,000? Did you know they need to be checked every 15 hours?

Expensive boat to learn on.......But if you like it, they are cool.

young.gun 07-08-2008 08:14 PM

I gotta agree with BraceYourself, if this is your first powerboat 1075's might be too over the top. I think a good choice could be the 46 with 700sci's it would still run very strong and you could get insurance for it no problem. Or you could always do 850's but still a lot of power for first time, IMHO!
I still say the course is a must!

BraceYourself 07-08-2008 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 2616380)
Sc Boater,

Better check the maintenance intervals on those 1075's. Did you know the 100 hour service is about $52,000? Did you know they need to be checked every 15 hours?

Expensive boat to learn on.......But if you like it, they are cool.



If he's buying this boat he definetly won't care about cost.

What he will care about, is after smoking the trannie because he did a hole shot, losing a prop because he didn't check the prop nut, breaking a belt and not knowing how to change it, smoking a drive because he didn't pull back on the throttles for the 200th time the boat is in the air, are the reasons he will limp back in on one engine. This is a few things experience prevents at this level, mistakes or knowledge to fix simple things prevents limping back in on one engine. Less power is more foregiving and you will spend much less time broke because of stupid things. 700's are a great idea, then upgrade to 1075's after a 100 or so hours

Everyone knows the worst pain in the world is having a sailboat pass you as you're limping back in on one engine.

allfiredup 07-09-2008 09:34 AM

He said he has boated on lakes. What boats have you run? Also to answer your 450 question. I have a 42 GTX & pull it anywhere with my 450. I also got the 4.88 gears & that is a mistake you don't need the gear. The truck is awesome. The others have a piont be careful & diffently take Tres Martin class. My first officail boat was a 43 Scarab with trip 850's then got my GTX after a couple years. Steps are a differant animal. Get educated & take it slow. Also have fun!!

32fever 07-09-2008 12:03 PM

Well, even if you do not take a class, make sure to take it slow. Drive the boat at slower speeds and get to know your boat. Too many people have gone out with a new to them boat, entered a poker run, wanted to lead the pack, and were either injured or worse. It's not worth that to not be patient.

Good luck with your new purchase and enjoy!

SCBoater 07-09-2008 01:17 PM

thanks for all the info. im going to be short im on my phone posting this. been away from computer since monday. I think and know this is a lot of boat. I have no doubt that im going to have to learn real quick. im not really concerened about the ownership costs we all make money and spend it on things we love to do no matter the cost. plus is I was worried about money would I really be thinking about this price of boat. I looked into a 38 donzi with 700s and I just like the OL better. not to worry im in no hurry to jump into racing the boat. plus maybe one of you guys would like a weekend down in SC teaching me some tricks of the trade. thanks again and ill tounch base later

allfiredup 07-09-2008 10:50 PM

Bring that beotch up to Lake Norman.

Jassman 07-10-2008 05:43 AM


Originally Posted by SCBoater (Post 2617353)
thanks for all the info. im going to be short im on my phone posting this. been away from computer since monday. I think and know this is a lot of boat. I have no doubt that im going to have to learn real quick. im not really concerened about the ownership costs we all make money and spend it on things we love to do no matter the cost. plus is I was worried about money would I really be thinking about this price of boat. I looked into a 38 donzi with 700s and I just like the OL better. not to worry im in no hurry to jump into racing the boat. plus maybe one of you guys would like a weekend down in SC teaching me some tricks of the trade. thanks again and ill tounch base later


Why dont you take a few days off, Ill give you test ride in a similiar sized boat 43 Nortech..45' long. Also before you get any boat..look into the Tres Martin school..it will also lower you're insurance. Jeff

SCBoater 07-10-2008 08:21 AM

AllFiredUp. How is boating on Norman. Right now we live in Spartanburg, and have had the Cobalt up there a few times.

allfiredup 07-10-2008 09:08 AM

It's ok a little tight on busy days. But, we can go out before noon & run around some.

SCBoater 07-10-2008 10:23 AM

I have seen some powerboats out on that lake. I've always thought it would be very stressful with everyone out there. I mean to ask you how the 42' runs. I was thinking about one that sixe also. but like the stand-up on the Limited compared to the sit-down.

OL40SVX 07-10-2008 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by SCBoater (Post 2618541)
I have seen some powerboats out on that lake. I've always thought it would be very stressful with everyone out there. I mean to ask you how the 42' runs. I was thinking about one that sixe also. but like the stand-up on the Limited compared to the sit-down.

You can get a 42 GTX(sit down) or Legacy(stand up).

bripar77 07-12-2008 08:13 PM

New Boat
 
Listen to these guys. Buy a slower more dependable boat first. As you get used to it and start getting the feel for it you will be educated enough to look at other boats and sizes.

If I was you I would consider a 42 Legacy with 700's and the NXT drive. Great boat and really good in rough water. Then in a year or two step up with more power or another boat.

It is hard to get seat time (driving the boat time) if it's not running and with the big power you are talking about, it will not always run. That will limit your seat time. Believe me when they break it takes weeks and even months to get them fixed.

Tres Martin's course is invaluable, take it.

Good Luck

allfiredup 07-14-2008 05:23 PM

I rode in the red & black 41 Supper Leggera & it was awesome. You might want to think about that boat (if you like the style). 700's but I think it has #6 drives on it so you could always trade up on power. We ran 110mph with 3/4 tank of fuel & 6 people on it.

Jassman 07-14-2008 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by allfiredup (Post 2623008)
I rode in the red & black 41 Supper Leggera & it was awesome. You might want to think about that boat (if you like the style). 700's but I think it has #6 drives on it so you could always trade up on power. We ran 110mph with 3/4 tank of fuel & 6 people on it.

thats one hell of a boat..I personally like this model also.

OL40SVX 07-14-2008 08:01 PM

Call Ocean Performance 860-388-6000. They will find the OL you need and have the 41 SL and a 42 Legacy with 700's in stock. Ask for Todd.

garyperfmz 07-14-2008 10:03 PM

Hi All Fired Up, thanks for taking the ride in the Super Leggara. Where did you do that? It has NXT's on it and yes it is a great choice for SCBoater. Did you know that it gets 1 mpg at over 90mph! You guys are correct re: the maintenance on the 1075's, you nhave Oil/filter changes plus valve lash adjustment check ups to record any suspicious wear between those services. You are also correct as to the 100 hour go through.($40-50K) People often forget about their Cyborg's and SSMVI's, those need major go through as well. Now to SC's "problem", ask most 46 owners and they'll tell you it's worth every penny of maintenance dollar. Yes Chris at Ocean has a 41SL. Thanks for the kind words.

allfiredup 07-15-2008 12:26 PM

Mike took me out on Winapisake (spelling?) when i was in Loudon for the Nascar race.

5150 07-17-2008 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by BraceYourself (Post 2616188)
No matter how much you don't care about throwing money away, that boat is the worst boat for you to buy... With no ownership experience, in this league you will break so much stuff just from in experience. Also to fast and I hope you're a good swimmer. All that being said the 46 with 1075's is a great choice. Not by any means should a first time buyer be allowed to buy. Here goes our insurance premiums.

lol. Why is it that you think he is even going to run the boat wide open? I would rather have a boat that cruises at 80 then one getting wringed out at 80.
What makes you think he doesn't have mechanical knowledge of boats?
Maybe he can afford to have a whole team on the dock to rebuild both engines after every run.
The best advise I can give is;
Take the Tres class
Take it easy until you are comfortable and adjusted to the boat..(I'm sure you are already thinking that)
Have a great time, congrats, beautiful boat....I want a ride:ernaehrung004:

jerseygirl 07-21-2008 01:56 PM

Wow. Prettty hard on the guy. Truth is you can flip, stuff or crash anything. Stupid is as stupid does. Be smart and safe no matter what you ride. Wear a vest.

Matty439 07-22-2008 07:47 PM

I 2nd the "WOW" by Jerseygirl. By the posts you would think SCBoater is spending everyone elses $$$ but his. Be safe, take it slow, get training, and enjoy yourself!!! I am sure the OL Factory will supply you will ample training on the 46 =:) Moreover - Welcome!!!

allfiredup 07-22-2008 08:42 PM

Let's be clear I have offered to help & not critical on the guy at all.

jerseygirl 07-23-2008 08:34 AM

I'm not pointing fingers. I understand people's "concerns" if thats what you want to call it. It is our responsibility to let him know the pros and cons of jumping into such big power, but it doesn't have to be done so critically. Not such a warm welcome is all I'm saying.

BraceYourself 07-23-2008 09:07 AM

I'm not being critical. Just saying that even though someone has good intentions of not running a boat at WOT it eventually happens. 80mph eventually gets boring and the abiilty to go 120+ is a potential for a problem. Faster you go the faster things go wrong and you aren't able to correct. We all know close calls we've had, however I know faster boats with close calls would of been a problem. I've owned 4 go fast boats and have slowly worked my way up in speed because I know the learning curve. I would love to have a cat but know I'm not ready. Just saying many people can buy whatever they want but it doesn't mean the fasteset boat is the right choice.

SCBoater 07-24-2008 11:15 AM

WoW. I would like to say thank you all for the advice. We have been thinking real hard about this boat. Ive been in touch with Tres about coming up and working with my whole family for a one- on one training. As of right now we are finishing up things on closing on a house so the boat will still be a late summer purchase. I've done a lot of thinking about the 1075's and was unaware of the 100 hour service costs. I'm starting to re-think such power. I didn't take any ones words to be harsh just pointing me in the right direction. I've looked at a 51 with tripple 700's but not sure that is teh way to go. I've also looked at a 38 Donzi with twin 700's. From what people say the 700 is a better engine to get started on. Thanks again and I love reading what people think.

BraceYourself 07-24-2008 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by SCBoater (Post 2633721)
WoW. I would like to say thank you all for the advice. We have been thinking real hard about this boat. Ive been in touch with Tres about coming up and working with my whole family for a one- on one training. As of right now we are finishing up things on closing on a house so the boat will still be a late summer purchase. I've done a lot of thinking about the 1075's and was unaware of the 100 hour service costs. I'm starting to re-think such power. I didn't take any ones words to be harsh just pointing me in the right direction. I've looked at a 51 with tripple 700's but not sure that is teh way to go. I've also looked at a 38 Donzi with twin 700's. From what people say the 700 is a better engine to get started on. Thanks again and I love reading what people think.


I know this is outerlimits territory but.........

Buy a CIGARETTE or Outerlimits, all the other V hull's are so so

SCBoater 07-25-2008 08:44 AM

Yea. I really liked the OL. Just really took the advice of teh board and started looking at different boats. Power being the main focus right now. Still up in air about 51 with triple 700's Never operated a triple before. Dont even know how to drive them

Whipple Charged 07-25-2008 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by allfiredup (Post 2623008)
I rode in the red & black 41 Supper Leggera & it was awesome. You might want to think about that boat (if you like the style). 700's but I think it has #6 drives on it so you could always trade up on power. We ran 110mph with 3/4 tank of fuel & 6 people on it.

I've been 117 with 3 people, mid level on fuel, semi-good conditions. Ran at the DS poker run 115mph, got a video of it but too it's pretty big file.

FROGMAN524 08-27-2008 09:15 PM

Post the video

jax55 08-28-2008 09:53 AM

SC Boater, here are my 2 cents, the 1075's are smart and made to prevent you from tearing one up, but sometimes too smart and will cause you pain due to sensor problems, you need to make sure someone in your area is certified and has all the computer equipment - which is very expensive, they are far from maintenance free, every 10 hours oil changed & lashed, at 70hrs you have to have the top end checked 6-10k, higher if you are hard on the boat, rebuild at 100-150 hours, 52k on the rebuild if they come back in good shape, plus you are a first time performance owner you need to take a hard look at the insurance - i have owned a lot of performance boats, never filed a claim, and raced offshore, but my 55 cats insurance is simply ridiculous...finally after u stuff all this cash into the boat over the next two years, be prepared for the resale of the boat to be a fraction of what you purchased it for....truly not trying to discourage you, in fact, i always believe in going big or going home, but you need to really understand these things...

blume 08-28-2008 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by jax55 (Post 2666880)
SC Boater, here are my 2 cents, the 1075's are smart and made to prevent you from tearing one up, but sometimes too smart and will cause you pain due to sensor problems, you need to make sure someone in your area is certified and has all the computer equipment - which is very expensive, they are far from maintenance free, every 10 hours oil changed & lashed, at 70hrs you have to have the top end checked 6-10k, higher if you are hard on the boat, rebuild at 100-150 hours, 52k on the rebuild if they come back in good shape, plus you are a first time performance owner you need to take a hard look at the insurance - i have owned a lot of performance boats, never filed a claim, and raced offshore, but my 55 cats insurance is simply ridiculous...finally after u stuff all this cash into the boat over the next two years, be prepared for the resale of the boat to be a fraction of what you purchased it for....truly not trying to discourage you, in fact, i always believe in going big or going home, but you need to really understand these things...

Dan, whats up.

jax55 08-28-2008 10:14 AM

Hello Blume,


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