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51 sport yatch
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Price is 100k too high.......
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Jupiter is there something wrong with it?
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What's up with that? What ya know about it?
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My guess is that boat would do 110-115? Beast
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Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation
(Post 4367583)
Price is 100k too high.......
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Looks like a pretty good deal to me.....
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Canadian add..start at $180798.44 US
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Boat is worth that and more. great deal for that boat. You can not base the price of a used boat in todays market by what some beat repo boats went for 5 years ago. It should run around 112 depending on setup.
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Date Added: 01/30/2013 Last Updated: 09/14/2015 Boat was 250K 5 years ago when it was associated with Hideaway Marina. Hideaway even "lent' it to DollaBill for a poker run which tells you exactly how "hot and in demand it was even back then!" Boat is 11 years old with 1075's and has been for sale coming up on 3 years (just for this ad). 1075's were trouble when they were new, nevermind 11 years later. By comparison the 47 GTX that was listed sold in 14 days. :eek: |
Dude...If Dollabill was running it, decrease the value by 75% or get it professionally fumigated...... just sayin....
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Was this boat converted from triples to twins? It has been for sale for a long time; I'd think something around $160K would be a realistic price. It sure looks faded in the pics, 11 years old with 11 years old gauges, wiring, gas tanks, and on and on. One thing for sure is its a damn pretty boat. It would be a good one to do whatever the latest mods are to make the motors more reliable/less finicky, last longer and less maintenance even if it gives up some power, it would be how I'd approach it.
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ok,guess I'm offering 135k for it.:D
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Originally Posted by iamjoe
(Post 4368175)
Was this boat converted from triples to twins? It has been for sale for a long time; I'd think something around $160K would be a realistic price. It sure looks faded in the pics, 11 years old with 11 years old gauges, wiring, gas tanks, and on and on. One thing for sure is its a damn pretty boat. It would be a good one to do whatever the latest mods are to make the motors more reliable/less finicky, last longer and less maintenance even if it gives up some power, it would be how I'd approach it.
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Originally Posted by 1989mach1
(Post 4368342)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiZUOJ4kGvo |
I've known the boat since it was new. It was and still is a great boat. This boat will go through anything. The 1075's are what they are, some love them, some hate them. Bottom line is You are getting a good turnkey boat with 50K worth of drives, and another 70-90K worth of motors if you chose to part it out and put what you want in it. Don't compare it to a 1350 boat, because for that price you can't even buy the power. It is what it is, a competitively priced Bad ASs used boat.
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I also think this boat is a great boat for the money. Can any of you show me another 50-52 vee bottom that runs over 112mph for under $235k right now??
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A 2005 51 Outerlimits with 1075s should be listed at $135k? Give me a break.
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Originally Posted by 302Sport
(Post 4369198)
I also think this boat is a great boat for the money. Can any of you show me another 50-52 vee bottom that runs over 112mph for under $235k right now??
You also have a similar beast for sale so higher priced comps are what you would want to see personally to help value your own 50V. |
Originally Posted by richanton
(Post 4369426)
A 2005 51 Outerlimits with 1075s should be listed at $135k? Give me a break.
50+ ft vee bottoms aren't for everyone (from towing to docks to big power) they are a serious commitment to boating and your wallet. That being said, the buyer of this machine might want newer power/newer paint-interior etc and when you add those improvements to a 11 year old hull you quickly get upside down on the project and for that cost you can simply buy a newer boat. |
First, this boat should say a lot about Mike Fiore. This is an 11 year old boat that if it was painted with a modern scheme and had a new interior, you would never know its not a "new" model. He offered a boat 11 years ago with lines that turned out to be timeless. Pretty cool. As far as the $235K price goes, its been for sale forever, it doesn't appear to be in great shape (via the pics) and everything in it/on it is 11 years old. Cables, wiring, front thruster motor, oil lines, fuel lines. There are a ton of moving parts, all of which have a life-cycle. Can the motors can be updated and tuned to be much more reliable with less upkeep? I'm sure you guys know more about that than me, but I think I read a thread by a well known engine builder saying he could get 150+ hours out of a 1075. Even if it costs some power, who cares? I think no more than $180K on a great day. If it could be had for $160K, it would be worth buying and modernizing.
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I agree with everything you guys are saying but what I am saying is that if you are a buyer for a late model 50ft vee bottom right now, your options are very very limited unless you want to spend $500k+ on a 1100 or 1350 turbo boat.
And I'm still waiting for someone to show me another 50-52 foot boat that runs over 110mph for less then $235k.... |
Originally Posted by 302Sport
(Post 4369551)
And I'm still waiting for someone to show me another 50-52 foot boat that runs over 110mph for less then $235k.... |
Tell me about the ones that have sold for less....
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Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation
(Post 4369600)
I'm still waiting to see one sell for that..........been almost 3 yrs! :eek:
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Originally Posted by 302Sport
(Post 4369601)
Tell me about the ones that have sold for less....
Plenty of triple engine 50 Hustlers also but they were not as fast due to smaller power. |
To get a 50 Hustler to run 115+ its gonna take 3x 1100 hp motors. Thats another motor/drive/tranny/misc to maintain
I don't think the boat is out of line but I have not seen it either. In General a nicely equipped 2005 50' Outerlimits with running 1075's I would say is worth 200k plus. As far as getting upside down... If your worried about not being upside down or loosing money your in the wrong sport. Power Boats cost alot of money to maintain let alone upgrade. If you judge what you do to your boat by what the value increase will be, give up now id say. I do what I do to my boat because I like to and because its fun doing it and using it. And I love to have fun!! If your looking to make money invest somewhere else like the stock market not a boat. |
Originally Posted by hustlerguy
(Post 4374386)
To get a 50 Hustler to run 115+ its gonna take 3x 1100 hp motors. Thats another motor/drive/tranny/misc to maintain
I don't think the boat is out of line but I have not seen it either. In General a nicely equipped 2005 50' Outerlimits with running 1075's I would say is worth 200k plus. As far as getting upside down... If your worried about not being upside down or loosing money your in the wrong sport. Power Boats cost alot of money to maintain let alone upgrade. If you judge what you do to your boat by what the value increase will be, give up now id say. I do what I do to my boat because I like to and because its fun doing it and using it. And I love to have fun!! If your looking to make money invest somewhere else like the stock market not a boat. It's not about making money, it is more like "limiting the damage!" :D |
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Originally Posted by 302Sport
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Tell me about the ones that have sold for less....
this one went for under 180. [ATTACH=CONFIG]547862[/ATTACH] |
Originally Posted by TomFTM
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this one went for under 180. [ATTACH=CONFIG]547862[/ATTACH]
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Originally Posted by 302Sport
(Post 4377895)
What motors/drives?? Nice looking boat..
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There is always a deal out there...
Without knowing the details that sounded like a deal! But if a guy had to repaint, redo cockpit interior, start from scratch with new 1200/1350 motors. ahhh might not have been the deal it sounds like. Details on conditions are the big deal imo. Hopefully the guy built the boat he wanted at that point! Still think the original boat in question is a fair starting price for the boat. I'm sure he's been offered low ball offers and turned them down. He doesnt have to sell it I'd assume and if it still works for him. Awesome for him or her. |
Originally Posted by hustlerguy
(Post 4377939)
There is always a deal out there...
Without knowing the details that sounded like a deal! But if a guy had to repaint, redo cockpit interior, start from scratch with new 1200/1350 motors. ahhh might not have been the deal it sounds like. Details on conditions are the big deal imo. Hopefully the guy built the boat he wanted at that point! Still think the original boat in question is a fair starting price for the boat. I'm sure he's been offered low ball offers and turned them down. He doesnt have to sell it I'd assume and if it still works for him. Awesome for him or her. |
Gonna be a bad ass rig
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I drove to Laval, Quebec, Canada last Friday to see this boat. I was not impressed with the wear and uncleanliness. I realize anything can be cleaned, but how filthy a boat is speaks of its overall care, imo. As mentioned, it is 11 years old with 1075's. It is quite a piece and was probably the price of a small country when new, as is the case with many rigs. However, as is also the case with all rigs, depreciation is a bitter reality and if you're going to buy new or near new, you can't expect to not completely lose your ass. With that said, I would have bought the boat for the right price. 235K is far from the right price. He would not budge below 230K. He has spoken with Randy Swears and Fastboats.com and intends to transport it down to Florida shortly for Mr. Swears to sell for him. Mr. Swears has apparently given him hope for much more money than I'm thinking he'll get.
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And after Randy gets his cut he will get less than you probably offered, not including shipping to FLA. Good luck to him
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Saw the boat myself, as I flew up there to look at a mint 38 fountain with 600's. Well the fountain needed a restoration and the outerlimits was sitting outside. It looks nothing like the photos represent.....
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Originally Posted by CIG3
(Post 4379572)
And after Randy gets his cut he will get less than you probably offered, not including shipping to FLA. Good luck to him
I suspect Randy is trying to stock inventory and will talk the seller off the ledge on the price later (after the boat gets here). |
Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation
(Post 4389449)
But keep in mind US currency is 28% stronger than Canadian dollars......so if he gets 200K US then that is like 256K Canadian.
I suspect Randy is trying to stock inventory and will talk the seller off the ledge on the price later (after the boat gets here). |
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