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JBmarine 01-21-2006 07:59 AM

28 on Ebay
 
FYI-Not associated with but there is a 28 for auction on Ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

hp500efi 01-21-2006 08:27 AM

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http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-7693.html


same boat at pier57?

Stormrider 01-21-2006 10:02 AM

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yes... same boat as pier 57.
I think that is an awsome set up w/ the rear bench.
But i bet ther reserve is like 80+!!! :eek:

Griff 01-21-2006 03:06 PM

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Been for sale foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

MIAMIBOYZ 01-22-2006 08:49 PM

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worth every penny in my opinion

speed buff 01-23-2006 05:07 PM

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nice boat ! :drink:

duunoit 01-23-2006 06:43 PM

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I wonder what scares people away from this boat. I'd love to have it if I had the money.

Stormrider 01-23-2006 07:30 PM

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its another "race" boat w/ limited amenities.
these have not been turning over easily.

Johno 01-23-2006 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Stormrider
its another "race" boat w/ limited amenities.
these have not been turning over easily.

Exactly!
I looked & this boat & with limited amenities/ blower motor I just felt I could get more boat for the money. It has been for sale for over a year, probably 18months.
I still love this boat though. I also remember it had the Cats Eyes on the side, not anymore?

speed buff 01-23-2006 10:41 PM

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who put the blower motor together ?

Johno 01-23-2006 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by speed buff
who put the blower motor together ?

Come on ...buy this baby..it needs to return to FL Sure is a pretty boat

MIAMIBOYZ 01-24-2006 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by duunoit
I wonder what scares people away from this boat. I'd love to have it if I had the money.



SPEED

Stormrider 01-24-2006 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MIAMIBOYS
SPEED

come on albert, you really think so?
What speeds do you think this boat runs at???
90? 95?
There are plenty of guys out there running 35-42 fountains in this speed bracket.

This boat has been on the mkt for 3yrs+.
I remember looking at it before i got my 24.

I think this 28 is a better buy. The cockpit configuration and 3A drive are a plus. If you dont like the graphics... sand and buff.
http://www.boattraderonline.com/deal....html?82073746

For this Pier57 boat to sell, its gonna have to go for 70-75k, not 90-100k.

BRUCE SEROFF 01-24-2006 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Stormrider
come on albert, you really think so?
What speeds do you think this boat runs at???
90? 95?
There are plenty of guys out there running 35-42 fountains in this speed bracket.

This boat has been on the mkt for 3yrs+.
I remember looking at it before i got my 24.

I think this 28 is a better buy. The cockpit configuration and 3A drive are a plus. If you dont like the graphics... sand and buff.
http://www.boattraderonline.com/deal....html?82073746

For this Pier57 boat to sell, its gonna have to go for 70-75k, not 90-100k.

Keep in mind, 95 mph in a 35 - 42 boat is like 70 in a 28 Pantera. These boats are a handful at 95 mph.

Albert will tell ya....and he aint scared of nuthin :eek:

Stormrider 01-24-2006 01:29 PM

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Maybe so bruce, but just cuz it does 90, means its gotta be used at 90.
That drive may not last too long either.
But if you ran the boat at 60 all day, it would last plenty long.
Its a nice boat, but I don't think its worth $90,000.
Damn bruce, i could buy yours and repower and have 40+ to spare.

Lukie's boat is a better buy imo also. that 5man set up is sweet, and you can probably stick a few couples together in each. :drink:

BRUCE SEROFF 01-24-2006 02:36 PM

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You'de have alot more than 40 plus to spare if you bought mine.

40k with fresh power takes mine. i agree that a 3 man setup is not very desireable for a pleasure boat. Boat it makes a great bay bomber.

MIAMIBOYZ 01-24-2006 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Stormrider
come on albert, you really think so?
What speeds do you think this boat runs at???
90? 95?
There are plenty of guys out there running 35-42 fountains in this speed bracket.

This boat has been on the mkt for 3yrs+.
I remember looking at it before i got my 24.

I think this 28 is a better buy. The cockpit configuration and 3A drive are a plus. If you dont like the graphics... sand and buff.
http://www.boattraderonline.com/deal....html?82073746

For this Pier57 boat to sell, its gonna have to go for 70-75k, not 90-100k.

Remember boats have a special value in everyones intrest, I for one dont find myself owning a pleasure boat, however my theary of speed is done based on the size of the boat being a 28 not a 35-42. I for one know the limits on a 28 Pantera at high speeds, I can assure you whomever has tested that boat in the lake at Pier 57 got scared of the test ride of the speed of a blown 28 with a the race layup cockpit.

Not everyone feels comfortable strapped in a bolster going over 90 with the wind in your face and not a lot of experience in the wheel. It takes a special person to maintain a certain level of safety on speed and I for one feel that speed should be respected at any level of performance boating. In the 38 Cig race boat we can go 100 and it feels like we are a stand still compared to 100 in my boat.

All in all we all like fast boats, but dont forget that their is always someone else out their that can smoke you silly any given day. With that said we are as fast as the next boat passing us and leaving us with a spray of mist and a smell of fuel in the wake. Yes I would prefer the Pantera with the 3A speedmaster and the funny graphics just because I have seen the boat up close and it is gorgeous in every way except the size of Pantera head.

MIAMIBOYZ 01-24-2006 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BRUCE SEROFF

Albert will tell ya....and he aint scared of nuthin :eek:

Only when I pass the 100 mark and still have some left, yikes hold on and pray that you dont piss in your pants. I cant wait to take you out in this crazy boat of mine you knuckle head.

thedonz 01-24-2006 11:38 PM

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Speed? We don't need no stinkin' speed....... :drink:

vertigo88 01-25-2006 03:16 AM

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you got that right, miamiboys, its hard to imagine what you guys go through in a race at those speeds, hats off to your team, i have never gotten use to that feeling above 80mph, taken it into the 90-94 range only a couple of times,don't like it, very nervous, against a 40 hustler twin supercharged 900hp and another time a 36 cig gladiator twin staggered 750hp zuls, theres so much going on at that speed, an incredible rush, a frenzy, but i will admit scary, lots of blood pressure and adrenaline, after i pull the sticks back, I feel rattled, glad to be at cruise speed again, i think i am getting too old, your so right about respect, when i bought the boat, carl the oringinal owner shook my hand, his last words to me, he said, RESPECT IT be careful nick, PEOPLE CAN DIE IN THAT BOAT, i never will forget them.

tomcei 01-25-2006 06:12 AM

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I can't wait to get a blower mtr :D :D :D :D

Stormrider 01-25-2006 07:55 AM

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They are asking 95k in the classifieds.
I still think that is alot of $$$.
Boats like this just aren't commanding $.
Ask Jody165 or SemperFi... both of their boats were the sh!t.
And they had to give them away.

And yes, my 24 at 75 on gps / 78-79 on speedo was a rush, and a bit hairy, but like i said, you don't have to run it that way. So the speed shouldn't scare you.
And if you didn't want an engine like that, so you can't go fast, what would you have to do?? Sell the blower motor and put in a 525? You'd probably lose money on that deal.

I inquired about this boat a few yrs back and they had no desire about selling w/o the motor.
I thought for 45 w/ no motor would be a good deal, or even 65 w/ the motor. I could have bought alberts boat for, what... mid 30s??
Could have bought Jody165 38 larry smith w/ twin blower motors. Boat did well over 100mph w/ 6pack bolsters for 75-80. So this... at 90+ to me seems overpriced. just my $0.02.

Lets see how this auction goes.

MIAMIBOYZ 01-25-2006 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by vertigo88
you got that right, miamiboys, its hard to imagine what you guys go through in a race at those speeds, hats off to your team, i have never gotten use to that feeling above 80mph, taken it into the 90-94 range only a couple of times,don't like it, very nervous, against a 40 hustler twin supercharged 900hp and another time a 36 cig gladiator twin staggered 750hp zuls, theres so much going on at that speed, an incredible rush, a frenzy, but i will admit scary, lots of blood pressure and adrenaline, after i pull the sticks back, I feel rattled, glad to be at cruise speed again, i think i am getting too old, your so right about respect, when i bought theboat, carl the oringinal owner shook my hand, his last words to me, he said, RESPECT IT be careful nick, PEOPLE CAN DIE IN THAT BOAT, i never will forget them.

Nick you have been their done that and respect what speeds are all about, being a racer gives me more time to think when I`m pleasure riding and you see people doing stupid things in open water without a life jacket and two kids in the back bench.

Stormrider 01-25-2006 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MIAMIBOYS
being a racer gives me more time to think when I`m pleasure riding and you see people doing stupid things in open water without a life jacket and two kids in the back bench.

hey, you talking about me??? :et:

speed buff 01-25-2006 08:35 PM

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i think albert and bruce boat are mid 90 models. if the boat really has 3 hours with a high dollar 800 + blower motor, xr drive ,hydraulic steering,nice aluminum trailer, and is a 2003 possibly never titled it certainly should be worth $ 90,000. i think the racier cockpit and limited cabin are what hold it back to the average buyer with a family.there must be atleast $ 50,000 in the running gear alone. my wife would not be happy with a boat with that racier cockpit and no sunpad.it is a beautiful boat in my opinion and would make a great boat to go for a 3 hour blast in :drink: .

MIAMIBOYZ 01-25-2006 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Stormrider
hey, you talking about me??? :et:


LMAO :D

MIAMIBOYZ 01-25-2006 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by speed buff
i think albert and bruce boat are mid 90 models. if the boat really has 3 hours with a high dollar 800 + blower motor, xr drive ,hydraulic steering,nice aluminum trailer, and is a 2003 possibly never titled it certainly should be worth $ 90,000. i think the racier cockpit and limited cabin are what hold it back to the average buyer with a family.there must be atleast $ 50,000 in the running gear alone. my wife would not be happy with a boat with that racier cockpit and no sunpad.it is a beautiful boat in my opinion and would make a great boat to go for a 3 hour blast in :drink: .

Great points :drink:

BRUCE SEROFF 01-26-2006 06:18 AM

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I would think they would sell it faster w/o the power. probably worth 50k. If the boat was a full pleasure setup, it would be worth 90k, maybe more. But not everyone wants a big azz blower motor and a race setup. I think the buyers market would be stronger if you separate them.

Stormrider 01-26-2006 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BRUCE SEROFF
I would think they would sell it faster w/o the power. probably worth 50k. If the boat was a full pleasure setup, it would be worth 90k, maybe more. But not everyone wants a big azz blower motor and a race setup. I think the buyers market would be stronger if you separate them.

BINGO!!!
Would you say Memoli's boat sold fairly easily??
You guys gotta admit, buying a boat w/ big power(that you have no real history of) is a bit unnerving. Building you own power you know what you've got...
I was told once by a very wise man, to look for a boat w/o drivetrain... and put your own in it. When you sell take it out and to the next boat. Kinda makes sense, just not so easy finding boats w/o power.

BRUCE SEROFF 01-26-2006 08:04 AM

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By the way, Merola's deal fell through. The seller stiffed him. After he sent $1,000.00 deposit

Out There 01-26-2006 08:54 AM

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I believe that is a Grimes motor built in North Atlanta were the original owner was from.

Stormrider 01-26-2006 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BRUCE SEROFF
By the way, Merola's deal fell through. The seller stiffed him. After he sent $1,000.00 deposit

Sorry, I'll fix that... I ment Memoli.
Tomcei has memoli's boat now.
I really like luke's boat... if i knew I wouldn't need it for family use... it'd be just right.

BRUCE SEROFF 01-26-2006 09:18 AM

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That makes perfect sense. My boat would have sold a year ago if it were a pleasure setup

Stormrider 01-26-2006 09:21 AM

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I think any single engine pantera, pleasure setup, in half decent shape could sell for 40.
I unfortunately passed up a 1995 28 w/ blower motor(500hp) that was in Cali... it was asking 45k. Had a vote of confidence from Jo that it was a great boat and superclean. I was opposed cuz it would have cost 3000 to get it here. But I probably would have broke even on the sell... not like I did on the 24. :(

MIAMIBOYZ 01-26-2006 10:53 AM

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Feel free to come ride with me if you are ever down here in Miami, I always have room for and extra body.....

Stormrider 01-26-2006 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MIAMIBOYS
Feel free to come ride with me if you are ever down here in Miami, I always have room for and extra body.....

this time i hope you're talkin to me! :D
I'll actually be down next month, but its incredibly hard to get away from the family. :( :mad:
I appreciate and will remember.

MIAMIBOYZ 01-26-2006 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Stormrider
this time i hope you're talkin to me! :D
I'll actually be down next month, but its incredibly hard to get away from the family. :( :mad:
I appreciate and will remember.

It will be a quick ride... :D

IRONMAN 01-26-2006 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BRUCE SEROFF
That makes perfect sense. My boat would have sold a year ago if it were a pleasure setup

No, even sooner Bruce, it would have sold even before you bought it. Was yours owned by Borderline on the board before you?

Stormrider 01-27-2006 03:43 PM

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Ahhh, another ad for the same boat. and on OSO too!
Save $10k buying from this ad!!!
http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-8742.html

I do admit this boat is hot. But still no bids on Ebay.

bigboat28 02-17-2006 01:12 PM

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Did this boat sell yet?


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