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dockrocker 06-18-2007 09:17 PM

24' on Michigan Craigslist
 
Saw this today and thought I would pass it on...

http://detroit.craigslist.org/boa/350559663.html

Mind you, I know *nothing* about the boat, so don't ask ;)

Stormrider 06-19-2007 07:59 AM

3man set up ... cool.

B251 06-20-2007 11:07 AM

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TexomaPowerboater 06-20-2007 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by B251 (Post 2170055)
Hi guys new to the board. I do not have a boat yet but I seen this one on Craigs list as well. I am interested in it and was wondering if any one knows any info on it. I called the # and it has a 468 cu.in. BBC with TRS upper and speed master#2 lower. Thanks--- Brad

Get that guy to send you some pics and post them up here. Also get the guy to give you the Hull ID #. Jo-Pantera may be able to give you some history on it. While your at it ask him why there is an old TRS drive on a 1995 boat. I think they stopped making them around 1990 (not sure on that one), which is why they are hard to find parts for.

If its a pure race setup with no cabin - it might be hard to resale. At that price it sounds like it might be a race setup. If it was in fact on the race circuit I would have it surveyed.

If you don't know much about boats find someone who does and is willing to go look at it.

B251 06-20-2007 12:09 PM

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B251 06-20-2007 12:21 PM

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lowblue320 06-20-2007 12:23 PM

this boat looks awesome and the price is about right...get some pics of the motor, interior and rigging..might be a nice buy.

Pat McPherson 06-20-2007 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 2170095)
Get that guy to send you some pics and post them up here. Also get the guy to give you the Hull ID #. Jo-Pantera may be able to give you some history on it. While your at it ask him why there is an old TRS drive on a 1995 boat. I think they stopped making them around 1990 (not sure on that one), which is why they are hard to find parts for.

If its a pure race setup with no cabin - it might be hard to resale. At that price it sounds like it might be a race setup. If it was in fact on the race circuit I would have it surveyed.

If you don't know much about boats find someone who does and is willing to go look at it.

Good advise.
I bet the boat/hull is older than 1995.
Could be a fun ride regardless.

CIG3 06-20-2007 01:24 PM

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I'm gonna call the owner tonight. Looks like a nice project.

CIG3 06-20-2007 01:25 PM

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Pat McPherson 06-20-2007 02:16 PM

IMHO, it is too much of a project for 15K. Keep looking if the price does not drop a lot.
There have been some real nice 24' Panteras come through this forum.
If you want one, just post what your looking for. This crew will find you one...

lowblue320 06-20-2007 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by Pat McPherson (Post 2170366)
IMHO, it is too much of a project for 15K. Keep looking if the price does not drop a lot.
There have been some real nice 24' Panteras come through this forum.
If you want one, just post what your looking for. This crew will find you one...

I think the same, I really couldnt tell that it was that much of a project...I would work him on the price could be a nice boat...

B251 06-20-2007 04:24 PM

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Longblockbenny 06-20-2007 05:42 PM

That is not a speedmaster #2 lower, looks like a trs with nose cone. Boat looks nice

TexomaPowerboater 06-20-2007 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by B251 (Post 2170564)
Thanks for the advice guys. Pat, if anyone could find one I would be in the market for a pantera 24 in this price range. I will try to get the HID # and find out if this is really a 1995 hull if it is I would not understand why a TRS would be installed. From what you see in the pics 1-10 how would you rate the boat?

Could be a 1 if it was raced in the circuit and sustained damage......... If he has a 12K motor in it then ask for reciepts - he may drop the price if he doesn't have them. I would have to say pass - looks like it will take some work and its not a boat you can take the family out in. I can't really tell what kind of shape its in. If you want a good project buy the 28 with no engines/drives and sit on it untill you can throw in some small blocks and new outdrives.

Dude! Sweet! 06-20-2007 06:57 PM

When did Pantera stop using the Float On trailers? My 1980 24 had one (the trailer was an '82). Type-o and the boat is an '85 is my guess...

G Man 06-20-2007 09:04 PM

I e-mailed this guy and he sent me the same set of pics posted here. He seemed honest in so far he said "I hope you know what you are in for here". Too much of a project for me and I hate the colors. Good luck.

tomcei 06-20-2007 09:10 PM

isn't the drive cooler mounted on the wrong side, based on the prop rotation??

nick k 06-20-2007 09:51 PM

1995 24 pantera race
 
I have seen this boat before. It used to race as A-34 and the name was "No Limits". I know it raced in Miami in 1995 for sure. It could be a 1995...maybe he just rigged it w/ a TRS. I was told the boat was originally owned by a guy in Wisconsin.

ziemer 06-21-2007 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by Dude! Sweet! (Post 2170729)
When did Pantera stop using the Float On trailers? My 1980 24 had one (the trailer was an '82). Type-o and the boat is an '85 is my guess...

My 95' has a South Florida trailer under it. ;)

lowblue320 06-21-2007 11:12 AM

I would ask Jo or Pepe about it they would know they know all Panteras......Im sure they'll chime in as soon as they see it they always do, I like the boat but not for the coin, the rear hatch looks great and windshield looks good to the bolster STYLE (Headrest) doesnt llook to bad either, could be a real nice boat..it has looks for sure but do you want to spent the time and money is the question....remember it only has a limited purpose, but I can deal with it for the rght money...

B251 06-21-2007 11:24 AM

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ts342003 06-21-2007 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 2170683)
Could be a 1 if it was raced in the circuit and sustained damage......... If he has a 12K motor in it then ask for reciepts - he may drop the price if he doesn't have them. I would have to say pass - looks like it will take some work and its not a boat you can take the family out in. I can't really tell what kind of shape its in. If you want a good project buy the 28 with no engines/drives and sit on it untill you can throw in some small blocks and new outdrives.

O.K dumb idea!! get a boat that needs work,engine,and drive How much you going to spend in all that!!! Alot more than is boat that is complete that just need some work!!

Dude! Sweet! 06-21-2007 11:49 AM

TS342003, did Lil DC steal your lunch money? Jeeze. Seems like an apples/oranges compairson between the two boats.

lowblue320 06-21-2007 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by B251 (Post 2171645)
I guess a good question is considering everything checks out with the hull, what is a good price for the boat?

first I would start with the motor and drive if they are good I would probably offer 8-9k you have to figure the interior well done estimate 1500-2000 and the paint if you dont like the color estimate 4000-5000k I would also do the engine compartment estmate 400.00 and then there the rigging make sure its all there if not you have to take into account that along with matching the guages estimate 500.00. Once you have all that I believe that it will be a bad asz boat..

9000.00 Boat
2000.00 Interior
5000.00 Paint
400.00 Copartment
500.00 Guages
16900.00 Total for a three man bolster boat...thats not a bad deal at all, if the motor is strong..besides it will look like a new one.......Maybe you can talk to Pantera on taking on the project they did my friends Apache and it looks great and worked on it pretty quick.

TexomaPowerboater 06-21-2007 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by ts342003 (Post 2171657)
O.K dumb idea!! get a boat that needs work,engine,and drive How much you going to spend in all that!!! Alot more than is boat that is complete that just need some work!!

Nice first post......... You need to work on your writing skills too.

1981 28 pantera - $15000
New interior 5000
2 New small blocks 12000
2 new bravo drives 11000
Installation 3000
Props 1000
Misc BS 2000

Total 49000

For a brand new 28ft pantera with twin small blocks. You will be hard pressed to find a 28 pantera without a story for that price. Lets see how long it takes Scott to sell that boat so you can find out just how dumb an idea that is. Better yet why doesn't someone put this boat together for me and I will buy it for $50,000.

cache 06-21-2007 01:51 PM

crazy
 
I find it crazy that I looked at this boat yesterday. The boat is not in bad shape just cosmetic stuff and minor wiring. The engine is awsome (as I am an engine man) the guy did the engine right. He said TRS held up better than early Brovo's as he was turning 6000-6200rpm. If wife would have said yes I would have bought on the spot, but she wants something more family friendly.

By reading posts people are questioning the year, I seen title and it is titled 1995 and numbers match.

Cashe

Stormrider 06-21-2007 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by cache (Post 2171882)
I find it crazy that I looked at this boat yesterday. The boat is not in bad shape just cosmetic stuff and minor wiring. The engine is awsome (as I am an engine man) the guy did the engine right. He said TRS held up better than early Brovo's as he was turning 6000-6200rpm. If wife would have said yes I would have bought on the spot, but she wants something more family friendly.

By reading posts people are questioning the year, I seen title and it is titled 1995 and numbers match.

Cashe

Nice 1st post... but do you have any pics?
You will gain alls respect and lovin w/ some pics.

lowblue320 06-21-2007 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by cache (Post 2171882)
I find it crazy that I looked at this boat yesterday. The boat is not in bad shape just cosmetic stuff and minor wiring. The engine is awsome (as I am an engine man) the guy did the engine right. He said TRS held up better than early Brovo's as he was turning 6000-6200rpm. If wife would have said yes I would have bought on the spot, but she wants something more family friendly.

By reading posts people are questioning the year, I seen title and it is titled 1995 and numbers match.

Cashe


I would ask steve to check this ip address to see if its the same person thats selling the boat.....sorry but this being your first post is kinda hard to believe.

TexomaPowerboater 06-21-2007 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by cache (Post 2171882)
I find it crazy that I looked at this boat yesterday. The boat is not in bad shape just cosmetic stuff and minor wiring. The engine is awsome (as I am an engine man) the guy did the engine right. He said TRS held up better than early Brovo's as he was turning 6000-6200rpm. If wife would have said yes I would have bought on the spot, but she wants something more family friendly.

By reading posts people are questioning the year, I seen title and it is titled 1995 and numbers match.

Cashe

Couple of 1st post on this thread......... Weird isn't it.

Cosmetics........I thought the same thing when I almost bought a 1999 28 pantera. It looked great to me. I thought hell its a 1999 there couldn't be that much wrong with it. My mechanic turned up $10,000+ in repairs with just the naked eye. If you are really serious have a mechanic go over it and tell you exactly how much its going to take.

Stormrider 06-21-2007 02:32 PM

these things can get expensive fast.
and the good buys go fast.
ie:swung6 and dude sweet's 24s.

it aint cheap to get these boats up to par.
but then again, it depends on your own standards... and i like a clean ride.

Dude! Sweet! 06-21-2007 02:36 PM

I won't rat out Nick on what he paid for mine exactly, but I let mine go, delivered half way across the country, for under $10k and mine was a good looking runner with brand new SMI exhaust.

lowblue320 06-21-2007 02:39 PM

it aint cheap to get these boats up to par.
but then again, it depends on your own standards... and i like a clean ride.[/QUOTE]

same here I like em clean and that cost money....

Stormrider 06-21-2007 02:54 PM

1problem w/ a 24, you'll soon want a 28.
how about the 28six pack up in RI. Better buy than this 24.
UNLESS, this 24 is actually really clean, and only REALLY needs 3-5 to get it up to par.
or unless you are limited to $20k total.

littledcsrodshop 06-21-2007 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 2171789)
Nice first post......... You need to work on your writing skills too.

1981 28 pantera - $15000
New interior 5000
2 New small blocks 12000
2 new bravo drives 11000
Installation 3000
Props 1000
Misc BS 2000

Total 49000

For a brand new 28ft pantera with twin small blocks. You will be hard pressed to find a 28 pantera without a story for that price. Lets see how long it takes Scott to sell that boat so you can find out just how dumb an idea that is. Better yet why doesn't someone put this boat together for me and I will buy it for $50,000.

Not long ! The deposit from my buyer is suposed to be hear by 12:00 tomorrow for it. ( So we will see ) I would say that you can't in any way compare the price of a a 24 to a 28. Although they are equally built like rocks & vertually indetructable they are not really apples to apples when it come to what they sell for, Not to mention actually finding another 28 Minus power for anywhere near what I am selling my boat for ! I know because not only have I spent a ton of time looking ( as may of us have ) I have owned & sold 2 out of the 4 that I know of that have been sold in recent years ( My 2 , Bruces 3 man race boat that went oversees , and the one that was sitting on the ground somewhere oversees. )

So "dumb Idea" I would have to say it just depends on what you are looking for & what suits your needs.

Lee 06-21-2007 05:34 PM

This one is located near me, http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/4/2/88460642.htm
It is a very original boat, that was well taken care of, but it does show it's age.

Lee 06-21-2007 05:39 PM

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Stormrider 06-21-2007 05:49 PM

Lee, swung6 owns that boat now.

Scott, you know what the best deal on a 28 was.

B251 06-21-2007 06:31 PM

I just saw it on boattrader before you posted it looks like a good deal. Stormrider are you saying swung6 just bought it or is he trying to sell it?

Lee 06-21-2007 06:41 PM

I did not know that, It was still sitting there the last time that I looked a couple of weeks ago. So where did "Trick or Treat" end up, is it still local?


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