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TexomaPowerboater 07-27-2007 12:21 PM

My boat budget just took a huge hit and I'm pissed. So that one in MD and the 24 SE's are starting to look pretty good. The 24 SE with twin outboards looks brand new. I don't care for a blower engine unless its a Merc setup. It also looks like there is a lot less cockpit space in the race setup. As for the cabin - yah you don't spend much time down there, but in the TX heat - its nice to be able to get out of the sun for just a little while. I would also like to travel and overnight and maybe a little "rockin the boat" if you know what I mean.

duunoit 07-27-2007 12:35 PM

All of the ones that I have seen with a half cabin had more than enough room for two adults beamwise. Those over 6' might not see the the same way.

My boat has more room that way than my 24SE had with the pleasure cabin.

jayhawk261 07-27-2007 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 2213999)
My boat budget just took a huge hit and I'm pissed. So that one in MD and the 24 SE's are starting to look pretty good. The 24 SE with twin outboards looks brand new. I don't care for a blower engine unless its a Merc setup. It also looks like there is a lot less cockpit space in the race setup. As for the cabin - yah you don't spend much time down there, but in the TX heat - its nice to be able to get out of the sun for just a little while. I would also like to travel and overnight and maybe a little "rockin the boat" if you know what I mean.

I know where there's still a nice 24 Super for sale! :D Just a 3 hour trip away from you:D

Wet Dream 07-27-2007 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by duunoit (Post 2213673)
You would think that with as many people looking for 28s that one in RI (http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/0/9/89638909.htm) and the one in MD (http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/7/5/87507875.htm) would alredy be gone. The prices don't seem way too high. I know they don't have typical pleasure setups, but really how much time do people spend below decks? Both of them have a cabin of some sort and seats can be modified for a few thousand dollars. Well now that I look at that one in RI, it's a little more than I remembered...

What's keeping people from buying them? What is it, the blower motors?

And that one in IL (http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/6/3/88945463.htm). I wonder if they would sell it without the motor? That boat is less than 1/2 what a new one is...

Well D, I gotta tell ya. Its not the boat or the motors. For sure not the motors. I'm looking for a specific look. So far I have only found it one time. Havnt found one like it yet. So the search is on. The boat is going to double up as a business card. So I basicaly need a naked boat.:angry-smiley-055:

Stormrider 08-09-2007 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by Stormrider (Post 2213706)
Funny, i thought sonic boom was asking around 35 too.


Well, it is now.:D
http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/0/9/89638909.htm

24pantera 08-09-2007 07:50 PM

Pantera
 
Hey Brad, I know where there is a 1979 24'. email me at [email protected]

B251 08-13-2007 11:03 AM

Thank you every one for keeping an eye out there but I will be out of the market for a boat for a while, my budget has taken a hit, I will be going back to school this fall so I will have to use the money for a boat to pay for school. But when I am done ( about 2 yrs) I will be able to step up to a 28 so I guess it will work out for the best. I hope everyone is enjoying the boating season....best whishes----Brad

TexomaPowerboater 08-14-2007 12:32 PM

No problem B251 - you aren't the only one looking.

Here is one I found on Ebay - whats up with all the red 24 pantera's for sale?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/24FT-...QQcmdZViewItem

rockracer 08-18-2007 06:47 AM

1978 24 Pantera
454 with Bravo Drive hydraulic steering
[email protected]

TexomaPowerboater 08-23-2007 01:21 PM

http://www.senecapowerboats.com/classified.html

1979 24

robltc 08-23-2007 03:22 PM

Definitely a buyers market right now for Pantera's or all boats for that matter.

79 excalibur 24 08-25-2007 01:05 PM

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I just became a gold member today and would like to post some pics and get some advice on what x dimension i should be at for my 79 excalibur 24 I just built a motor 383 525 hp and have to update the drive to a bravo. and if i need to make any changes this would be the time.

79 excalibur 24 08-25-2007 01:10 PM

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also any idea on how much the boat weighs with a small block and bravo setup? How fast do you think i can get out of it with 525 hp at 6300rpm. :D

duunoit 08-25-2007 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by 79 excalibur 24 (Post 2247506)
6300rpm. :D


6300 rpm?

What does your torque curve look like?

georges 08-25-2007 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by 79 excalibur 24 (Post 2247502)
I just became a gold member today and would like to post some pics and get some advice on what x dimension i should be at for my 79 excalibur 24 I just built a motor 383 525 hp and have to update the drive to a bravo. and if i need to make any changes this would be the time.


You are probably looking for the Excalibur thread:
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/f...play.php?f=125

79 excalibur 24 08-26-2007 09:41 AM

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here is my dyno sheet.

Pat McPherson 08-27-2007 09:05 PM

My Dad had a 1980 24' Excalibur.
With a 400HP/454 TRS she ran low 70s.
I'm guessing your boat will weigh around 3500lbs dry.
Set the prop 4-1/2" to 5" below the bottom.
With 525HP, she should run in the high 70s to low 80s.

bigboat28 08-29-2007 10:07 AM

Anyone know the wear abouts of two 28 Panteras, one was a 1999 called Uncivilized bought in Port Clinton Ohio a few years ago. I think it went towards Maryland. The other was bought on ebay from the Cleveland Ohio area. It was named Water Heater and before that was at National Marine. I think that it was a 1982.

TexomaPowerboater 10-09-2007 12:35 PM

I found this 28 Pantera (I think) for $25K

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehi...QAdIdZ24534338

I've never seen one with a teak deck like that.

Dude! Sweet! 10-09-2007 12:41 PM

Looks like one to me... And a bargain at half the price... :D

Stormrider 10-09-2007 03:08 PM

i think thats canadian $.
See if $15k us will do it.
a little paint, update(all white), bbc rebuild, maybe bravos or even konrads. Put 30-40k into it. :cool:
Ditch the teak on the bow though.

TexomaPowerboater 10-09-2007 08:04 PM

I like the teak:D What year do you guys think this boat is?

tomcei 10-09-2007 08:14 PM

you might have to bust out the ol' carbon dating kit:D

Dude! Sweet! 10-09-2007 08:17 PM

'78 / '79 ish I'd guess. I think that was around that time that they started building the 28.

Carbon dating! :D

littledcsrodshop 10-09-2007 10:30 PM

Contrary to popular belief that boat would look sweet in the right hands... Teak included....

I know a certain Nunez that would love to see that boat brought back to its glory...:cool-smiley-011:

Stormrider 10-10-2007 08:16 AM

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fyi, this is one of the sweetest 28s out there! imo.
1980 twin blown454

littledcsrodshop 10-10-2007 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by Stormrider (Post 2301296)
fyi, this is one of the sweetest 28s out there! imo.

I agree , I have always liked that boat. I talked to the owner about it a couple years back & he sent me a few pics.

TexomaPowerboater 10-10-2007 09:04 AM

I wonder of JO can put a teak deck or flooring on the new panteras or on an existing pantera.

Stormrider 10-10-2007 09:34 AM

Sure he can, but it will raise your floor height by that much.
Tex, what happen to the apache?

littledcsrodshop 10-10-2007 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 2301343)
I wonder of JO can put a teak deck or flooring on the new panteras or on an existing pantera.

for enuff coin just about anything can be done !!

I am getting ready to do some work on a buddys flat bottom Rayson Craft V-drive that most of the upper deck has been cut out & a wood deck has been installed , all book mapped.
The boat originally came out with the glass deck but they offered it in a wood deck & that is what he wanted. It is a late 60's model boat & it will be sweet when it is finished !! He has owned this boat since I was a kid & he has quite a few other classics to go along with it. I think he has 4 Rayson Craft V-drives , & a really cool 18 donzi V-drive with a Holman Moody Ford in it & a few other toys.

Dude! Sweet! 10-10-2007 12:17 PM

I dig the old Panteras. Very classic look. I was just saying that $30k seemed a bit silly for that boat (funny, I grew up on the border and forgot all about the exchange rate!).

I think that one of the potential "next generation" Panteras may have a wood floor...

Stormrider 10-10-2007 12:52 PM

DS, I know we all dig chicks w/ wood flooring. :D

TexomaPowerboater 10-10-2007 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by Stormrider (Post 2301384)
Sure he can, but it will raise your floor height by that much.
Tex, what happen to the apache?

Thanks for asking..........just got word that my deposit check got there first. So right now the sale is pending survey. I'm really excited. Its hillirous how many post I read that said that boat was sold already. I guess this one was just meant to be (knock on wood). I guess my dreams of owning a 28 pantera will just have to wait for 5-10 years. I'll keep you updated.

littledcsrodshop 10-10-2007 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 2301635)
Thanks for asking..........just got word that my deposit check got there first. So right now the sale is pending survey. I'm really excited. Its hillirous how many post I read that said that boat was sold already. I guess this one was just meant to be (knock on wood). I guess my dreams of owning a 28 pantera will just have to wait for 5-10 years. I'll keep you updated.

Andy ,
Glad to hear you are pulling off a deal ( survey pending ), I hope all goes well for you ! I know you have been looking hard & must be excited.. I know you have been looking at Pantera's & Saber's both but I guess if you arn't going to buy one of those it might as well be an Apache.. All great boats in my opinion & you couldn't go wrong with any of them if you buy smart.
I'm sure you will still be on this board from time to time as some of us other guys are...:p Wish you the best !

TexomaPowerboater 10-21-2007 11:57 AM

http://miami.craigslist.org/boa/454466883.html

Old 24 going through a resto

bigboat28 10-26-2007 07:50 PM

Anyone know anything about that 28 Pantera in Canada listed above? Is it still available?

bigboat28 10-29-2007 02:37 PM

Where are all the early 1980 28 Panteras at? You never see any for sale.

duunoit 10-29-2007 02:42 PM

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like this one? :D

Mine is a 1986

TexomaPowerboater 10-30-2007 11:54 AM

Wow - I was watching that boat on youtube last night. Awesome boat, I had no idea it was a 1986.

Bigboat28 - be patient, there will be another one. Last year a 1981 sold for $25K and it had new Bravo ITS's and twin small blocks. Another 1987 sold for $29K with brand new bravos and twin big blocks.

28 apache update - Owner just finished a minor repair and the testdrive is scheduled for Wednesday. If all goes well it will be mine by next weekend.

bigboat28 11-05-2007 02:41 PM

Texoma are you buying the white 28 Apache with the arrows in the classifieds?


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