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bouyhunter 09-06-2008 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by onesickpantera (Post 2676559)
All 24/7 boats do not come from the same mold. They are not all built the same. I don't know how many times I need to say this.

The Python is a nice boat, but it does not have the build quality a Pantera has, period. I am not trying to be rude or knocking your boat. Baja makes a good boat too, but it's not the same quality as a Cigarette. Let's try going in the Cigarette forum and stating "My Baja can do everything a Cigarette can do" and see how that goes over? Or better yet try the Apache forum! :party-smiley-004: :D

Yes, people did get some feathers ruffled and I knew this thread was a disaster waiting to happen. LOL I was trying to be polite in my threads but I see that didn't do any good. :D

HAHA, yeah, try that in the Cig or Apache forum, NOW THAT WOULD BE FUNNY!!!:food-smiley-007:

Seriously, I don't think anyone went too rough on Bromaguire. He came to the board stating that he was young and doesn't know that much about offshore boats yet, but he loves his Python. Cool .
Having a performance boat at 21 is quite an accomplishment.
It took me until I was 24yrs before I bought a 25 Baja - and man, I thought I just entered the Offshore/Go-Fast world.
By stating he didn't know that much, I think we took it more as "we need to educate him".
I was pretty proud of my Baja at first, and then I began to educate myself more Offshore boats. Sort of funny building Offshore boats in Bucyrus, there just isn't alot of offshore racing history there - although it's not far from Lake Erie, which I don't care what you say, that can be every bit as offshore as the ocean is.
My Baja wasn't a performance boat, it didn't have the Pedigree, but it looked like a performance boat.
Hey man, it's just my opinion.
As long as you're on the water, and enjoy your boat, great! You're welcome to the party in my book.
We're all just boaters.
Even the cruisers, and ski-boats, and yachts.
Blowboats aren't boaters, neither are jet-ski's.
Enjoy your boat.

ChristianGott 09-06-2008 07:18 PM

bh..
that's what it was like with my condor....looked like any other 24/7+or-...no stress cracks, real stable, quick as a 330/alpha would run...but people always went..HUH?...is that a donzi?..have fun, run to your limits, help a "bro" out, shun the smarta$$es...they must have other agendas....
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Love Machine 09-06-2008 07:37 PM

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To funny! Kinda like saying Trick Marine "sucks" about four years ago. People jump all over ya for telling it like it is. Enjoy the Python. Where are you located? Honestly, I'd never heard of Python and would love to see one in person.

Elite Marine 09-06-2008 09:23 PM

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Everyone is too uptight.

Python is a very good boat. Not a Pantera, but a very good boat.

An M3 is a very nice car too, not a Benz, but a very nice car :rolleyes:

Enough said. Enjoy the boat and the forum.

TexomaPowerboater 09-07-2008 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by onesickpantera (Post 2676559)
All 24/7 boats do not come from the same mold. They are not all built the same. I don't know how many times I need to say this.

The Python is a nice boat, but it does not have the build quality a Pantera has, period. I am not trying to be rude or knocking your boat. Baja makes a good boat too, but it's not the same quality as a Cigarette. Let's try going in the Cigarette forum and stating "My Baja can do everything a Cigarette can do" and see how that goes over? Or better yet try the Apache forum! :party-smiley-004: :D

Yes, people did get some feathers ruffled and I knew this thread was a disaster waiting to happen. LOL I was trying to be polite in my threads but I see that didn't do any good. :D

Funny you should mention the cigarette's and apache's. Since I own an apache I can compare. My apache has stress cracks.....the python didn't, but I'm sure its taken a lot more abuse. One other thing I noticed in my most recent rough water adventures was that the bow rail tends to come loose on certain areas of the apache. I can clearly tell that the hull and deck were flexing a little more than the python, probobly due to the fact that I was in water that the python couldn't handle and the apache was taking on a lot more force. Also its a bigger, wider boat. Like a big knife compared to a small one, it will flex more. I've heard of the same thing happening to cigarettes when runnning in big water, so I'm not really worried about it. I constantly go around tightening the rub rail on the apache. On the python I only found one screw in the entire rubrail that needed to be tightened. The build quality of the apache is night and day difference than the python but make no mistake about it - python boats made a very solid boat.

Tristar Racing 09-07-2008 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by Bromaguire (Post 2676168)
Or maybe I sit in a coner office already and drive a Denali and a modded BMW M3. I've work my @ss off to earn what I have made so far and I work in a field where I hold a higher ranking postion then men older than my own father. Just because I am 21 doesn't mean that I am dumb or should be treated any differently.

Wait, your 21, own two nice cars, and a boat? Do you still live at home?

Impressive hardware list, but listing what you own and having a corner office is just going to turn this into a pissing match, one that you are probably going to lose. Remember, some people on this site dont even blink when buying $200,000+ boats. Sometimes its better to enjoy your net worth as opposed to talking about it.

Can the Python to what a Pantera can do? Why not just prove it on the water? Seems like the logical thing to do. I have no idea either way, but I will say the customer service alone from Pantera is enough to make me a believer in the product. Oh yea, and that lifetime hull warranty.

bigboat28 09-08-2008 10:07 AM

Life time warranty says alot. Also I believe that Powerboat tested the 24 Python awhile back and the review was not very good if I remember right.

Bromaguire 09-08-2008 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by Tristar Racing (Post 2677494)
Wait, your 21, own two nice cars, and a boat? Do you still live at home?

Impressive hardware list, but listing what you own and having a corner office is just going to turn this into a pissing match, one that you are probably going to lose. Remember, some people on this site dont even blink when buying $200,000+ boats. Sometimes its better to enjoy your net worth as opposed to talking about it.

Can the Python to what a Pantera can do? Why not just prove it on the water? Seems like the logical thing to do. I have no idea either way, but I will say the customer service alone from Pantera is enough to make me a believer in the product. Oh yea, and that lifetime hull warranty.

First I am not trying to get in a pissing match but when someone infers that I drive a modded honda and work in the mailroom I am going to speak up. I own my own house and I've worked hard in order to do so . Also just because I didn't go buy the most expensive boat I could doesn't mean I couldn't afford one. I bought a less expensive bought because as I have said its my first boat and I don't have that much experience yet. If I hit a new 200,000 boat into the dock I would be pissed, if I I bump mine into the dock I just laugh it off as a learning experience. Honestly I haven't started talking about my net worth worth but its not too bad for 21 year old. Im not going to get into that stuff but for 21 I don't think I could personally be doing better for myself.

Is the lifetime warranty on the hulls for the original owner only or does it carry with the boat for its lifetime?

Courtholl 09-08-2008 11:33 AM

I considerred a python while look for boats. i was looking for Panteras and pythons only. I looked at several pythons in the area. I tested one. Very nice boat. Build was nice, etc. Only problem was, it was soft in the transom. Told the guy, and he poo pooed it. I looked at the boat twice, and passed. It had an HP 500 with low hours. Very nice boat. In my research I found that python was no longer in business. Owner has passed away, and was actually very well respected in the performance boating world. Not like Pepe and Joe, or others, but respected none-the-less. The one thing I found, is that build quality varried from boat to boat. One might be solid as a rock and perfect, and one might have had corners cut. I think it cam down to a struggling boat builder. i heard other rumors, but will not bring those up.

All-in all, it is very similar, but not the same. I think there have been good analogies put forth. I ended up buying a pantera from Michigan. I did not see the boat until it was delivered. i would never had done that with a python. I believe the pythin is lighter. That is a build quality issue.

Fact is, both a very good boats. I would prob take a 24 python over a baja any day. However, the pantera is a badazz boat, period. Python is a nice boat. TO an uneducated individual, both will turn heads.

Enjoy your boat. Be safe, and if you run in to a dock, then you have saved yourself from hurting your next baby. Start looking for a pantera to upgrade to. you are in the same family, but just not an elder yet. I think you would def see a difference goning from a python to a pantera. I think the main issues are build quality.

Have fun, and hope you upgrade to a pantera some day. Great boat and backed by a great family.

Craney 09-08-2008 12:07 PM

Only to the original owner.


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