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sonickevin95 08-03-2012 10:10 AM

I was under the impression that most offshore boat racers moonlighted as drug runners for the cartels.

rchevelle71 08-03-2012 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 3745119)
Holy Chit!!!!! I honestly don't see how anyone on this forum can defend this company. What more do you need?

Really appreciate everyone who has helped stand up and shed a light on this company and their product.

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What do you think Ben Kramer was in jail for? A lot More than that. You are an azzhat, Apache boy!!!!!!!

sonickevin95 08-03-2012 10:25 AM

Excuse me for my ignorance, I have bin lied to for the last 20 years of my life. I have heard nothing but great things about the pantera boats, and I live in a strong performance boat community. I wish all of this truth serum that everyone is spreading about pantera would have come to light earlier in my life, maybe even before the day I first heard they filed chapter 11. I feel lied to and misled from many many people I've come across through the years of performance boating.

rchevelle71 08-03-2012 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by sonickevin95 (Post 3745160)
Excuse me for my ignorance, I have bin lied to for the last 20 years of my life. I have heard nothing but great things about the pantera boats, and I live in a strong performance boat community. I wish all of this truth serum that everyone is spreading about pantera would have come to light earlier in my life, maybe even before the day I first heard they filed chapter 11. I feel lied to and misled from many many people I've come across through the years of performance boating.


My post was not directed towards you, it was for Tex, the "Apache's are better than Pantera boy" who would do anything to say his boat is better than mine, and how Apache was so great, but now say's "how can you defend this company" based on some drug dealings several years ago, when the founder of his beloved boat company is in jail for the same thing, and MUCH MUCH MORE!!!!!!!!

88bullet 08-03-2012 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by rchevelle71 (Post 3745163)
My post was not directed towards you, it was for Tex, the "Apache's are better than Pantera boy" who would do anything to say his boat is better than mine, and how Apache was so great, but now say's "how can you defend this company" based on some drug dealings several years ago, when the founder of his beloved boat company is in jail for the same thing, and MUCH MUCH MORE!!!!!!!!

maybe im worng but i dont think Don got shot cus he was dealing with wall street investors....

PhantomChaos 08-03-2012 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by rchevelle71 (Post 3745163)
My post was not directed towards you, it was for Tex, the "Apache's are better than Pantera boy" who would do anything to say his boat is better than mine, and how Apache was so great, but now say's "how can you defend this company" based on some drug dealings several years ago, when the founder of his beloved boat company is in jail for the same thing, and MUCH MUCH MORE!!!!!!!!


Thanks for that. I really wasn't sure what you meant by your previous post.

sonickevin95 08-03-2012 01:04 PM

Ben Cramer was found guilty of murdering don aranow, the government halted the sale of Cigarette racing to ben Cramer because he was a known drug smuggler.

SHAWNA 08-03-2012 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by sonickevin95 (Post 3745274)
Ben Cramer was found guilty of murdering don aranow, the government halted the sale of Cigarette racing to ben Cramer because he was a known drug smuggler.

Apparently the names have been changed to protect the innocent? (Aranow and Cramer)

PhantomChaos 08-03-2012 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by SHAWNA (Post 3745286)
Apparently the names have been changed to protect the innocent? (Aranow and Cramer)

Come on! He must be "in the know"! LOL .....:drink::drink::drink::drink::drink:

CigDaze 08-03-2012 01:53 PM

Aronow & Kramer, Aranow & Cramer...very deceptive.
;)


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