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COOPS 02-27-2016 06:58 PM

Not mine.... thought you Pantera guys shoukd see it
 
http://m.ebay.com/itm/281948043129

vintage chromoly 02-27-2016 07:38 PM

I saw that.
Seems like a great start for someone.
Probably cost 40k or better to finish properly.

C1000 02-27-2016 07:46 PM

that is a nice looking boat, makes ya think many thoughts

class6 02-27-2016 07:50 PM

With that price drop, he just bought you a drive

rak rua 02-27-2016 08:50 PM

I like to follow some of the restoration threads on here and people are buying near wrecks for not much less than that. Good buying for someone. If only it was on my doorstep.......

RR

Sydwayz 02-27-2016 10:46 PM

I don't know why that hasn't sold already. That's a really good price for what it is.

rak rua 02-28-2016 12:32 AM

I was thinking about making an offer around the 20-25k mark when it first appeared at 39k. I decided to play sensible and do nothing until I can sell my current boat. Now it comes up at the right price, I'm all confused! Don't really want to own two boats, especially with all the importing costs for me.

Hope it gets snapped up real fast so then I can stop thinking about it.

RR

Griff 02-28-2016 02:12 AM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 4409223)
I don't know why that hasn't sold already. That's a really good price for what it is.

I agree, its a good price. I also have to wonder if it even has an MSO or is titled.
I think the problem is that the whole thing would need to be done as basically a cash deal from start to finish.
Cash to purchase it and then another 50-60k in cash to finish it.

Rattlesnake Jake 02-28-2016 04:29 AM

Home equity loan. Lower rate than a boat finance.

class6 02-28-2016 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by Rattlesnake Jake (Post 4409244)
Home equity loan. Lower rate than a boat finance.

Then you could change your My Boat Status

rak rua 02-28-2016 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 4409241)
I agree, its a good price. I also have to wonder if it even has an MSO or is titled.
I think the problem is that the whole thing would need to be done as basically a cash deal from start to finish.
Cash to purchase it and then another 50-60k in cash to finish it.

Dumb Aussie here, what the flock is an MSO?
I'm guessing it's some sort of marine board certification. If it doesn't have an MSO, would that make any difference if someone paid cash and exported the boat? Certainly wouldn't matter at this end.

Thank-you
RR

payuppsucker 02-28-2016 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by rak rua (Post 4409257)
Dumb Aussie here, what the flock is an MSO?
I'm guessing it's some sort of marine board certification. If it doesn't have an MSO, would that make any difference if someone paid cash and exported the boat? Certainly wouldn't matter at this end.

Thank-you
RR

Manufactures Statement of Origin, document provided by the manufacturer, you get your title when you turn in the MSO to the state.

rak rua 02-28-2016 10:01 AM

Thanks payuppsucker, makes sense. Might make it very difficult to drag her out of the state and through customs for export if there is no MSO.

RR

vintage chromoly 02-28-2016 10:19 AM

If there is no MSO, is there a vehicle to get it titled?

slpcamaross97 02-28-2016 12:30 PM

That price is amazing.

Craney 02-28-2016 02:19 PM

The ad says they have the MSO:D So it should be good to go.

hotjava66 02-28-2016 03:45 PM

Good deal for someone with solid drivetrain in a tired out or wet hull. Swap everything over and good to go.

Rattlesnake Jake 02-28-2016 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by class6 (Post 4409254)
Then you could change your My Boat Status

I went to the dark side and bought a 21' Cat with Outboard power to play with.

LakeShakeFever 02-28-2016 09:55 PM

I have a 575sci, HP transom assembly and XR drive if someone buys this boat.

class6 02-28-2016 10:13 PM


Originally Posted by Rattlesnake Jake (Post 4409404)
I went to the dark side and bought a 21' Cat with Outboard power to play with.

Im up in Bolton every weekend, let me know if you need a hand

class6 02-28-2016 10:14 PM


Originally Posted by LakeShakeFever (Post 4409476)
I have a 575sci, HP transom assembly and XR drive if someone buys this boat.

?$

Ing 02-29-2016 10:30 AM

This boat is sitting in front of the Concept Factory so at least you also get peace of mind dealing with a reputable business.

mikebrls 02-29-2016 01:06 PM

they want $ 35 k to finish boat with no power , drive , steering ect, so if you have to buy motor , drive , transom plate , hydro steering ect, could be another $ 40 to $ 50 k depending on what you buy and if someone else has to install it,
so the price add's up quick unless you have a doner boat already , you could be into this boat for close to $ 100 k if someone else has to do the work and you when t with all brand new stuff , dont forget about the BIG headache that goes along with a boat like this :)

Rattlesnake Jake 02-29-2016 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by mikebrls (Post 4409653)
they want $ 35 k to finish boat with no power , drive , steering ect, so if you have to buy motor , drive , transom plate , hydro steering ect, could be another $ 40 to $ 50 k depending on what you buy and if someone else has to install it,
so the price add's up quick unless you have a doner boat already , you could be into this boat for close to $ 100 k if someone else has to do the work and you when t with all brand new stuff , dont forget about the BIG headache that goes along with a boat like this :)

100K would buy a nice clean 28-30 Skater..
Just Sayin

vintage chromoly 02-29-2016 02:25 PM

And, that's why its sitting at 21,500.
I thought long and hard about it yesterday. Almost pulled the trigger.
Nickle and dime you to death comes to mind.

vintage chromoly 02-29-2016 02:28 PM

Bear in mind, if you try to sell it, you will be up against......."well, it wasn't finished and rigged at the pantera factory"

genob 02-29-2016 02:40 PM

just saying brand new 24 ft boat under 100k is hard to find

vintage chromoly 02-29-2016 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by genob (Post 4409679)
just saying brand new 24 ft boat under 100k is hard to find

Agreed, but they don't come with....."assembly required"

mikebrls 02-29-2016 03:26 PM

And who's no's how much of the installed equipment is new , and not damaged goods .
Again the best bang for the buck is someone with a doner boat and all they have to do is buy scamterra interior from twin marine :)

rak rua 02-29-2016 08:32 PM

Keep on sledging the boat, knock everything you can, question the resale, build issues, cost, donor parts, second hand build etc, etc.
If you guys keep the bashing going, I'll buy it for 10k next month!

RR

vintage chromoly 02-29-2016 08:37 PM

Don't get me wrong Rak, lots of potential there. Id love to have it in the driveway.
It's just when you really boil it down, there are plenty of reasons it's still available at that number.

Keith Atlanta 02-29-2016 08:39 PM

Not a Pantera guy but, why would you use big power that crushes drives? Why not twin small blocks?

BUP 03-01-2016 12:01 AM

Whats sitting there is a good price but have to add about costs and the nickle & dime factor - If you are buying new components for everything to finish and especially if you can only retail buy, then possibly factor in some work subbed out, you are talking about 80 K + to finish this boat. CUSTOM interior cost alone is 16 to 22 K having it professionally done.

How long has this boat been sitting outside and then how long completely uncovered ?

Easily see total costs over 100 K + for a 100 % professionally completed boat matching manu standards with all factory warranties using OEM brand new stuff.

I already know the costs but how much do you guys think a Merc HP Racing 520 package costs alone ? Hint - its way more than 30 K and we are only talking about the HP 520 to throw in this 28.

Griff 03-01-2016 01:51 AM


Originally Posted by Keith Atlanta (Post 4409827)
Not a Pantera guy but, why would you use big power that crushes drives? Why not twin small blocks?

It doesn't really need big power. It should easily run mid 70's or higher with a 525EFI.
All the stepped hull 28's have stringers set up for a single engine.

class6 03-01-2016 06:24 AM

That's only the asking price. Cash in the face sure will sure change someone's mind quick! I think that would be a great boat to build. Bare hulls sit all over and its not a problem when uncovered from a moisture stand point. How much would a new Stuphen 27 cost in comparison? If you do it yourself. light weight carpet the cabin,all lighting and gauges ,throttles and gps for 3K. Interior 2 front sit downs, rear bench and a center console with gunwale pads drink cups and handles 6500 to 8000K even from PPI.you install it. leave a rear pad for later. Tabs, pumps with lines and switches 3000k, A B1X with ITS 16000K. And Bring SARIS a block and get a good motor for 15K plus exhaust. steering 3000 , and and 5 grand for all extras would be a lot, more than enough to finish nicely. So your at $53000.00 plus the cost of the Hull. Not a bad deal for a 28' New Pantera that could run 80MPH. And I don't see it taking more than 12 weekends to put together.

rak rua 03-01-2016 06:47 AM

I'm not too concerned with top end speed, too choppy here to go faster than 50 mph most days without breaking things.

For me, it needs a 496 HO and Bravo 1X. There's a couple in the classifieds with under 200 hours (about 15k) need to check them out carefully. The boat is already 2 years old so in a few years time, the engine hour discrepancy will be insignificant. Probably no need for hydraulic steering with a 496. No silent choice, just through transom exhausts, forget engine mods, keep it stock.

Fitted out nicely, would make a great social boat and would be a very cheap entry level into offshore boating. If you absolutely must go 70 plus, this idea won't work. Check a few of the scan sheets printed by Merc owners and see how much time their boat actually runs at high revs (speed) and ask "Is it really worth it?"

RR

class6 03-01-2016 07:10 AM

That's why I always get a laugh at guys changing oil at 15 hours when it idled and less then 3500 rpms for 99% of that time. Don't get me wrong changing oil is good, but maybe cleaning the mold from the bottom of the bolsters would be better time spent

vintage chromoly 03-02-2016 03:20 PM

Was at 19,500 today and the seller ended the auction.
Apparently, someone has a new project.

Hopefully, we see it surface and see it get built.

bigboat28 03-02-2016 05:33 PM

Yup, heard it sold.

vintage chromoly 03-02-2016 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by bigboat28 (Post 4410755)
Yup, heard it sold.

Where's it headed?


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