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BUP 10-10-2017 02:36 PM

Basically robbed Peter to pay Paul and their entertainment in life. Would that be a fair statement ? Or am I totally off base here ? Asking in a non joking manner

This industry does not need to have added red flags to it. I know I have been in this industry for 30 years and once again even yesterday personally seen the damning effects it has on another boat owner. Some hacks and dishonest people seem to hang around in the boat industry. But please do not take this all are bad. Again I am not saying all but an X amount of percentage of not rights and or totally shafted things happen in this industry. Not really wanting to explain full details but we all know someone personally and or many that did not get the fair end of the stick in some form or another in the boat world .

Interceptor 10-10-2017 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by Wboulton (Post 4587253)
I've been screwed out of plenty of money, **** happens. I'm just saying they're not bad people and they weren't out looking to screw people. What happened, happened. It's a sad story and sad for all parties involved.


Pantera would have loved building a boat for you. And the person in line before you would possibly get theirs done with your money. Then all you would need to do is find another buyer so their money could be used to finish your boat.

dereknkathy 10-12-2017 10:51 AM

And that is basically the way it happens. Pepe hadda keep trying. To say to any prospective buyer: "Sorry, I can't afford to build you a boat." Is to admit defeat and have his doors closed that much sooner. Kinda like an onside kick or a hail mary. Ain't gonna work most of the time, but sometimes it does. Of course, when you lose a football game, the only money you steal is from the bettors.

Wildman_grafix 10-12-2017 11:42 AM

If someone buys the molds it may not be sad, provided they have the cash to build them and there are people that want to buy one.

Seems at Pantera that was not likely to happen anymore.

Wboulton 10-12-2017 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 4587631)
If someone buys the molds it may not be sad, provided they have the cash to build them and there are people that want to buy one.

Seems at Pantera that was not likely to happen anymore.

the pantera molds are not for sale, Pantera's assets are going to be auctioned. So someone could buy everything and
try to start a new company, which could be cool if they have pantera build quality.

Wildman_grafix 10-12-2017 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by Wboulton (Post 4587634)
the pantera molds are not for sale, Pantera's assets are going to be auctioned. So someone could buy everything and
try to start a new company, which could be cool if they have pantera build quality.

Are you saying the OP isn't selling the molds like the title of the thread?

That is confusing then, what is Berk selling?

Wboulton 10-12-2017 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 4587650)
Are you saying the OP isn't selling the molds like the title of the thread?

That is confusing then, what is Berk selling?

no he is not selling the molds.

dereknkathy 10-13-2017 04:19 AM


Originally Posted by Berk (Post 4585691)
24, 28 and 36 foot molds are for sale. for more info pls contact me +90 532 465 10 52

Boy, this sure sounds like he is trying to sell the molds, especially since the 41 mold is already sold. Unfortunately, all you need is a mold and a bucket full of fiberglass resin, and you can call yourself a boat manufacturer. Nowhere near the regulations that there are for Motor Vehicles. Heck, there's no regulations at all.

dereknkathy 10-13-2017 05:28 AM

And the 24 Pantera is proof of that. There is a 23.5 Magnum rotting away in England somewhere. That mold was reportedly made from sheets of kitchen formica. Apparently the only 24/7 Magnum ever made. Then somebody pulled a mold off that boat. And then it started. Can anybody on this forum fill in all the copies of the orig 23.5 by 6.5 Magnum we call the 24/7? Hell, I had a 30 IMP which is a stretched 24/7. Some were well made, well rigged boats. Supe is still building this boat apparently. Many were poorly made and badly rigged. One that was being built 10 miles from me that was shortened to 22 feet was a nice hull. But at some point-rumor has it-it was being rigged with used engines and drives and sold as new...

Wboulton 10-13-2017 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by dereknkathy (Post 4587733)
Boy, this sure sounds like he is trying to sell the molds, especially since the 41 mold is already sold. Unfortunately, all you need is a mold and a bucket full of fiberglass resin, and you can call yourself a boat manufacturer. Nowhere near the regulations that there are for Motor Vehicles. Heck, there's no regulations at all.


41 was probably sold by pantera I'm guessing. Once pantera folded the courts probably took everything they had left and they'll auction it.


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