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MIAMIBOYZ 04-01-2005 08:43 AM

Re: Who's takin there Pantera's Racing this year?
 
[QUOTE=BRUCE SEROFF]yes ..i got your message, thanks. That gentleman contacted me some time back. but it didnt go any further. To much of a pain in the butt to sell a boat to someone overseas.


Same here that Swedish guy took to much out of my time and Jos time asking all kinds of questions.

lukiepal 04-01-2005 03:12 PM

Re: Who's takin there Pantera's Racing this year?
 
No problem Bruce, I believe it is a 30p or 29p.
I agree with you both Albert and Bruce, he was asking tons of questions and argued with me over 5k for my boat, when buying a boat then having it shipped overseas 5k is a problem? and he told me he never heard of your boat Bruce?
Jerry cant wait to rub some rails again, I will call you next week and the vinyl lady Tina was asking about you

Jmemoli 04-01-2005 03:24 PM

Re: Who's takin there Pantera's Racing this year?
 
If they are using a prop calculator , what is the efficiency number they are using for deep vs' ??

lukiepal 04-01-2005 04:31 PM

Re: Who's takin there Pantera's Racing this year?
 
according to SBI calc. Pitch x RPM x .01, ./. Gear Ratio, ./. 12 = Speed
29p x 5000rpm x .01 divided by 1.50 divided by 12 = mph 80.55
can I turn more rpm's sure but then the speed is WAY off

Jmemoli 04-02-2005 08:07 AM

Re: Who's takin there Pantera's Racing this year?
 
Luke,
From the formula you have given from SBI, It looks like they are using a.88 efficiency factor (12 % loss) .

Single engine Panteras have a loss of from 16-18 % running B1 4 blade props .
My boat turns a 28 @ 5000 RPM abd runs 72-74 mph -
Which shows an efficiency of 83%.(.83)
Formula is ;
RPM*Prop*.000942 * eff. / drive ratio
where eff. is hull efficiency -

Luke, if your boat turns a 29 at 5400, your spped is around 80 - 82 mph ; does this sound right?

lukiepal 04-02-2005 11:22 AM

Re: Who's takin there Pantera's Racing this year?
 
I will know as soon as the weather breaks, never had a speedo or gps on the boat, felt more like around 75mph I thought.

BRUCE SEROFF 04-02-2005 11:32 AM

Re: Who's takin there Pantera's Racing this year?
 
Lukie...

if you can turn a 29 at 5000, theoretically, you should be running 80, easily. then again, in '03 we were turning a 26 @ 5900 and only hitting 78. the calc. says 85.

last year, (different motor) we were running a 24 @ 5900 and ran 73. the calc. says 78.67

Go Figure :cool:

so... like Jerry said, I think the slip on the single Panteras is much higher than 12%

Jmemoli 04-02-2005 04:19 PM

Re: Who's takin there Pantera's Racing this year?
 
To be honest , anything under 80 feels slow in the Pantera 28 . The dam thing is so stable !
Luke , I would love to go for a ride in your when you get it done .
LEt me know .

MIAMIBOYZ 04-02-2005 06:57 PM

Re: Who's takin there Pantera's Racing this year?
 

Originally Posted by BRUCE SEROFF
Lukie...

so... like Jerry said, I think the slip on the single Panteras is much higher than 12%

A true statement, I have done test after test and 15% slip is where my 28 turns the best speeds. Go figure......

MIAMIBOYZ 04-02-2005 07:00 PM

Re: Who's takin there Pantera's Racing this year?
 

Originally Posted by Jmemoli
To be honest , anything under 80 feels slow in the Pantera 28 . The dam thing is so stable !
Luke , I would love to go for a ride in your when you get it done .
LEt me know .


True Jerry 80 is ideal for the 28, Lukie I love to throttle your boat in the Point Pleasant race.


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