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Enforcer2 11-06-2006 08:50 PM

How do you like your 33
 
I have been looking at some of the 33s with o/b's and i/o's. Is the length 33' without o/b bracket?

Put my Midnight up for sale, reluctant to sale but hoping to get a closed deck Midnight with quads, if that falls through, I really like the lines of the 33.

I find myself going back to the looks, performance and value of the 33. I do wish they were a little bigger. Can anyone offer any Positives,negatives to the 33..

trader1 11-06-2006 09:51 PM

Re: How do you like your 33
 
33s r awsome! there is nothing better!!!

dkwestern 11-07-2006 06:58 AM

Re: How do you like your 33
 
They run bigger than 33 feet in my opinion

Indy 11-07-2006 07:09 AM

Re: How do you like your 33
 
Why I chose my 33' PP:
> Classic south Florida offshore looks, sweet lines.
> Predicatable straight bottom handling.
> Sharp entry angle and deadrise for the chop.
> Great freeboard...not too low so you feel like you're going to fall out, but not too high so you fell like you're riding in a bucket.
> High build quality.
> Relatively flat sunpad (I've had others that are angled too steep and you feel like you're going to slide off it). Removes easily too for sotrage and/or cleaning.
> Room to work in the engine compartments.
> Handles rough water superbly, solid ride.
> Can be trailered easily.
> Did I mention great lines?? :D
> Rigging that puts many boats to shame.

Things I'd chage or make improvements to:
> An angled footrest would have been nice.
> Windy boat, you definately need the pop-up wind deflectors. OSO member cowisl had a plexi screen made, looks nice.
> Stiffer foam in the seat portion of the bolster, you tend to slide forward a bit when sitting.
> The later model boats have a fiberglass sole in the cockpit, most models have the Lonseal Lonwave installed over it (just like the soles in Cigs), I'd prefer just a gel/fiberglass sole.

That's all I can think of for now, the 33' is a hard package to beat and I see myself in this boat for a long time.

Ed 11-07-2006 08:07 AM

Re: How do you like your 33
 
Most would be surprised, if they actually took the time to measure the boat accurately & hang a couple of plumbobs off the hulls centerline, what it measures out at...contrary to what the literature stated. Not counting the thickness of the rubrail. Ed

Enforcer2 11-07-2006 09:04 AM

Re: How do you like your 33
 
Thanks for the info :cool: , I also like the classic lines. It's a nice looking boat. I been checking out the o/b' s on oso and I am impressed with the speed claims. Also considered the i/o's but I have to cross shallow water to get to the Ocean Does anyone know what the exact length and weight ??

Indy 11-07-2006 09:35 AM

Re: How do you like your 33
 
I'll hang a plumb bob later today as Ed suggested and get some measurements.

I go through some shallow water myself to get into some coves around here, I just kick up the drives and it's no problem.

Enforcer2 11-07-2006 10:18 AM

Re: How do you like your 33
 
Thanks, what power do you have twins trips? How does family like it?

RLopez9014 11-07-2006 03:03 PM

Re: How do you like your 33
 
I had a 33 Powerplay with twin HP 500's that ran about 80 MPH and my Father has a 33 Open Fish with twin 225 Optimax's that runs 59 MPH. They are both great boats!
The 33 Open Fish is for sale in the classifieds!


Rob

Indy 11-07-2006 06:15 PM

Re: How do you like your 33
 

Originally Posted by Enforcer2
Thanks, what power do you have twins trips? How does family like it?

Twin 502s. Anybody who comes aboard loves the boat, hard to go wrong. Didn't get the chance to measure today, went to winterize the boat and the impeller blew into a million pieces, had to remove the hatch jack to get at it :( Glad it's not getting cold this week :rolleyes:

MACTIME 11-08-2006 10:58 AM

Re: How do you like your 33
 
The 33 Powerplay outperforms the bigger and more expensive boats all day long. With both ride and quality of the workmanship you can not go wrong. As stated earlier, the timeless lines and looks will always be in style. Powerplays will never disappoint or leave wondering why you did not purchase something bigger or more expensive.

Just my thoughts on one of the best built V-bottom boats ever constructed.

ActiveFun 11-09-2006 12:31 PM

Re: How do you like your 33
 
I've never heard a negative complaint about a 33 PP

Tony Montana 11-10-2006 09:23 PM

Re: How do you like your 33
 

Originally Posted by Ed
Most would be surprised, if they actually took the time to measure the boat accurately & hang a couple of plumbobs off the hulls centerline, what it measures out at...contrary to what the literature stated. Not counting the thickness of the rubrail. Ed


32'7" is right from powerplay website

http://www.powerplayboats.com/showro..._id=6&offset=8

35 fountain 01-05-2007 05:49 PM

Re: How do you like your 33
 
I/O 33 is just a fantastic, in your face, rough water hull. 2 of my friends are running them and they impress me every time I am on one, and that is comming from a 04 35 executioner owner.

blacktruck 01-08-2007 11:09 PM

Re: How do you like your 33
 
There was a terrible accident involving a powerplay 33 near marco island. You can see it on the naples news website. Apparentley the boat hit a wave, and it looks like it broke right in half. I don't know all the details, but there were several people killed. Hopefully this incident isn't indicative of Powerplays quality. The boat was noted to have stress cracks previous to the accident.

cowisl 01-09-2007 08:54 AM

Re: How do you like your 33
 
Thoughts and prayers to all those involved.

However, this is not indicative of Powerplay's build quality.

cowisl 01-09-2007 09:19 AM

Re: How do you like your 33
 
Concept's are nice boats...

Powerplay's are hardcore, offshore boats. The 33' design was taken from a successful raceboat that you may have heard of: a cigarette cary, which was later popped and dubbed a coyote. Then the 33' powerplay was born.

If you spend your time looking around a powerplay, I guarantee you that you will not find a boat that has such attention to detail. For example, the screws are all keyed in the rubrail. Wiring support is above and beyond. And the boat delivers a SOLID offshore ride.

The Mr. K stuff was a terrible accident. We were at the race and he was running way too hot. Its amazing how fast things can go wrong.

And for your info, outerlimits and cigarettes have stuffed and broken apart too.

Indy 01-09-2007 10:12 AM

Re: How do you like your 33
 

Originally Posted by cowisl (Post 1987597)
And for your info, outerlimits and cigarettes have stuffed and broken apart too.

Agreed...It's not hard to find pics of boats that are in pieces. I didn't think it would be long until PowerPlay build quality remarks made their appearance here. Please refrain on the build quality comments until you know the history of the boat in question. Was it involved in a prior accident, hit by another boat prior to this accident, run aground, raced, stuffed, hooked, trailer accident, etc etc etc. Heck...our family Sea Ray got crushed at the fuel dock by an idiot driving a 45' Viking who had no clue how to dock it, we sustained structural damage that needed repairing. Who knows the history of this PP? Has anybody thought of driver error? Tabs were all the way down and drives tucked, possible trip and stuff scenario there. More than one boat has broken apart when that happens. My 33' is VERY sensitive to trim/tab configurations. It requires only slight input to noticeably change the ride attitude. Please spare us the speculation until the facts come out. Until then I'll have fun running mine through Long Island Sound chop. :rolleyes:

XPRESS 33PP 01-09-2007 07:20 PM

Re: How do you like your 33
 
I know that there are a lot of people who may not know of the history and the very high quality of Powerplay boats thats understandable. To respect the people involved I didn't comment on some of the questionable quality remarks made in the other thread. One remark that comes to mind is that if this were a Cig or an Apache the outcome would have been different.
I would bet on the fact that this boat didn't just come apart by hitting a wave or stuffing and not hitting bottom.
In 95 Mr.K accident they found sand stuffed all the way back in the engine compartment, I feel the same thing happened here.

Comanche3Six 01-09-2007 08:12 PM

Re: How do you like your 33
 

Originally Posted by XPRESS 33PP (Post 1988322)
I would bet on the fact that this boat didn't just come apart by hitting a wave or stuffing and not hitting bottom.
In 95 Mr.K accident they found sand stuffed all the way back in the engine compartment, I feel the same thing happened here.

Kennedy's plane went down in 115ft of water.

XPRESS 33PP 01-09-2007 08:19 PM

Re: How do you like your 33
 

Originally Posted by Comanche3Six (Post 1988384)
Kennedy's plane went down in 115ft of water.

Whats your point?

Comanche3Six 01-09-2007 08:20 PM

Re: How do you like your 33
 

Originally Posted by XPRESS 33PP (Post 1988398)
Whats your point?

Common sense.

Lickitysplit 01-09-2007 08:29 PM

Re: How do you like your 33
 
Guys, I also refrained from posting on the other thread. But in 4 years of running my Powerplay I can tell you that I have never once run the boat on plane or at speed with the drives tucked and the tabs all the way down. Like INDY said, they are very responsive to trim input.

Sure, to get on plane, the drives need tp be tucked but as soon as it planes you need to get them out opf the water.

Mike

XPRESS 33PP 01-09-2007 08:30 PM

Re: How do you like your 33
 

Originally Posted by Comanche3Six (Post 1988399)
Common sense.

Apparently you don't feel it was posable the the boat hit bottom when it stuffed in what was said to be 10 to 20' of water?

XPRESS 33PP 01-09-2007 08:39 PM

Re: How do you like your 33
 

Originally Posted by Lickitysplit (Post 1988420)
Guys, I also refrained from posting on the other thread. But in 4 years of running my Powerplay I can tell you that I have never once run the boat on plane or at speed with the drives tucked and the tabs all the way down. Like INDY said, they are very responsive to trim input.

Sure, to get on plane, the drives need tp be tucked but as soon as it planes you need to get them out opf the water.

Mike

I agree with you totally. It would be very hard to travel at high speed with those settings.
The boat would plow badly and bow stear.

cowisl 01-09-2007 08:44 PM

Re: How do you like your 33
 
I cant imagine what any performance boat would do at 50-60 mph with the tabs all the way down!

ActiveFun 01-09-2007 10:38 PM

Re: How do you like your 33
 
I agree with you guys, so therefore the boat stuffed at a slow speed?

Indy 01-10-2007 08:28 AM

Re: How do you like your 33
 

Originally Posted by XPRESS 33PP (Post 1988322)
One remark that comes to mind is that if this were a Cig or an Apache the outcome would have been different.

How many people are aware that the one of the people responsible for the high build quality of PowerPlay came from Apache? Hull/Decks were trued, vinylester resins were used intsead of GP resins, lamination schedules were changed, kevlar introduced into high stress areas, vacuum bagging techniques introduced, and so on. This is a very high quality true offshore boat, more so than most out there. Some of the idiotic remarks made on the Marco Island thread just infuritate me. A little bit of research by these "experts" would stop some of this conjecture.

Indy 01-10-2007 09:36 AM

Re: How do you like your 33
 
Mark...no need to defend your selection of a boat, you have every right to be proud.

XPRESS 33PP 01-10-2007 10:07 AM

Re: How do you like your 33
 
Mark, Sorry my comment was not directed at you, it was another post on the Marco Island thread that went on and on like he was some kind of pro yet knew nothing about the brand of boat he was talking about.

Lickitysplit 01-10-2007 07:19 PM

Re: How do you like your 33
 

Originally Posted by ActiveFun (Post 1988562)
I agree with you guys, so therefore the boat stuffed at a slow speed?

The boat could have been carrying some speed (I agree with the notes above, I don't think 50 or 60 mph worth), however as was noted above it had to be plowing like crazy. if that guy was trimmed as stated and came off a wave it could have resulred in a significant downward angle. If the water was as shallow as they mentioned and mind you none of those guys know exactly how deep it was where the boat came apart (there could have been a shoel etc) he could have hit the bottom.

I do think that there would be evidence of that on the boat. One more unknown is the "stress crack" discussed in the other thread. No one knows the magnitude of that crack. I suspect the forensics will tell what was old and what is new.

i really appreciate you guys in this forum. I learn a lot from you all.

Mike

ActiveFun 01-11-2007 11:53 AM

Re: How do you like your 33
 
Did they move that entire thread out of general boating discussion?

XPRESS 33PP 01-11-2007 04:25 PM

Re: How do you like your 33
 

Originally Posted by ActiveFun (Post 1990144)
Did they move that entire thread out of general boating discussion?

Still there on page 2

TeamSaris 01-11-2007 05:42 PM

Re: How do you like your 33
 
Powerplays are built to take a beating, nuff said!:cool:

Comanche3Six 01-11-2007 06:50 PM

Re: How do you like your 33
 

Originally Posted by XPRESS 33PP (Post 1988423)
Apparently you don't feel it was posable the the boat hit bottom when it stuffed in what was said to be 10 to 20' of water?

That is a pretty big air bubble in the bow to drive that deep. We have all seen boats break apart on video when they strike the water. I've never seen one blast the bottom in 20' of water.

cowisl 01-11-2007 09:48 PM

Re: How do you like your 33
 
Tides....or a shoal. May they rest in peace.

blacktruck 01-12-2007 03:03 PM

Re: How do you like your 33
 
As far as my thread goes I wasn't trying to vindicate PP boats, not at all. There were other comments that were, I simply mentioned what the news article said, and only mentioned the stress cracks because they were mentioned in that same article. I wanted some input from PP guys, thats all. If anything was taken out of context, then i apologize. I have always admired the traditional look and commitment to racing that PP has displayed.

Semper Fi 01-16-2007 10:30 AM

Re: How do you like your 33
 
Hi guys. We can all ASSUME many different scenarios. The true fact of the matter is that ANY boat can be destroyed in water. The little "evidence" we have to go on (tabs down and drives tucked) at this point seems to give some proof of driver error in this case.

I have ridden in many boats in my lifetime (I used to work at DSM & transport boats, so I have literally been in 100's of different boats) and Powerplay was definately one of the most "rock solid" boats to ride in.


By the way..............I am enjoying my Cobra alot!!!! (sold the boat to buy it :) )

XPRESS 33PP 01-16-2007 06:08 PM

Re: How do you like your 33
 
Semper, love your Cobra seen it on the (show me your car thread) very cool

Steve Miklos, I agree with you the boat could not be going more than 75mph and if the drives & tabs were down probable much less than that. With that said, I have read two so called eye witness accounts of the accident from fisherman that were first on the seen. They both said the same thing " the boat went vary high and entered at a 90 degree angle to the water. IMO at that angle even at a slower speed the boat could easily travel 18' down and hit the bottom, that is only the length of the deck. Imo if he just stuffed the boat I think the amount of damage compared to the speed the boat could travel don't add up.

Semper Fi 01-17-2007 09:25 AM

Re: How do you like your 33
 

Originally Posted by XPRESS 33PP (Post 1995562)
Semper, love your Cobra seen it on the (show me your car thread) very cool

Steve Miklos, I agree with you the boat could not be going more than 75mph and if the drives & tabs were down probable much less than that. With that said, I have read two so called eye witness accounts of the accident from fisherman that were first on the seen. They both said the same thing " the boat went vary high and entered at a 90 degree angle to the water. IMO at that angle even at a slower speed the boat could easily travel 18' down and hit the bottom, that is only the length of the deck. Imo if he just stuffed the boat I think the amount of damage compared to the speed the boat could travel don't add up.

Thanks!:D I agree, also, the boat may have come down back into the water at a low point (wave height) so he may have only had 5+ feet of water to go through before hitting the bottom


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