In the market 100%
#21
VP of the tickfaw200
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And another makes the scene:
http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o43885-en.html
Haven't seen this one before.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o43885-en.html
Haven't seen this one before.
Last edited by caseyh; 02-09-2012 at 06:57 AM.
#22
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Now that I can comment from the outside without an iron in the fire, heres what I am seeing from the PP market and buyers.
1. There's getting to be less and less PP's around so they might be getting like Apaches in a sense.
2. There's a couple that you guys have noted are very dirty, rigging has been hacked up, etc.... but from I see those boats are priced accordingly.
3. My boat brought $20K as a bare stripped out 1993 hull, so the price for a nice clean boat might surprise some of you.
4. I still believe that even in this market a clean, updated, and fresh power 33PP will bring $60K like nothing.
5. If you cant find a nice PP for the price you like, go buy a fountain, donzi, baja, etc... cause there are plenty of them kicking around.
1. There's getting to be less and less PP's around so they might be getting like Apaches in a sense.
2. There's a couple that you guys have noted are very dirty, rigging has been hacked up, etc.... but from I see those boats are priced accordingly.
3. My boat brought $20K as a bare stripped out 1993 hull, so the price for a nice clean boat might surprise some of you.
4. I still believe that even in this market a clean, updated, and fresh power 33PP will bring $60K like nothing.
5. If you cant find a nice PP for the price you like, go buy a fountain, donzi, baja, etc... cause there are plenty of them kicking around.
#23
JC Performance Engines
Gold Member
Now that I can comment from the outside without an iron in the fire, heres what I am seeing from the PP market and buyers.
1. There's getting to be less and less PP's around so they might be getting like Apaches in a sense.
And that helps how? Cause those can't sell either
2. There's a couple that you guys have noted are very dirty, rigging has been hacked up, etc.... but from I see those boats are priced accordingly. At what price?
3. My boat brought $20K as a bare stripped out 1993 hull, so the price for a nice clean boat might surprise some of you.
4. I still believe that even in this market a clean, updated, and fresh power 33PP will bring $60K like nothing.
Ha, show me one.
5. If you cant find a nice PP for the price you like, go buy a fountain, donzi, baja, etc... cause there are plenty of them kicking around.
1. There's getting to be less and less PP's around so they might be getting like Apaches in a sense.
And that helps how? Cause those can't sell either
2. There's a couple that you guys have noted are very dirty, rigging has been hacked up, etc.... but from I see those boats are priced accordingly. At what price?
3. My boat brought $20K as a bare stripped out 1993 hull, so the price for a nice clean boat might surprise some of you.
4. I still believe that even in this market a clean, updated, and fresh power 33PP will bring $60K like nothing.
Ha, show me one.
5. If you cant find a nice PP for the price you like, go buy a fountain, donzi, baja, etc... cause there are plenty of them kicking around.
"Drivetrain is worth about $50K these days, and I dont think the hull is worth anymore than $30K stripped even if it does have $50k worth of paint on it...........Also the sad truth is that a boat cut for sixes is worth less to 90 percent of the buyers because it costs that much more to rig and get going again. Only a couple of us idiots like myself would even consider buying an old flat bottom, big power boat."
So a 33 powerplay w/o any nice paint(subjective) should only be worth $15-20k.
IMO, a nice piece is worth good $, and an average piece is worth average $.
I guess what i'm trying to get at is that it seems you are being hypocritical, especially between these two threads.
Last edited by Stormrider; 02-09-2012 at 08:40 AM.
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In the other thread I am talking a #6 twin 1100hp drivetrain is worth $50K, not a 500hp bravo drivetrain. I would say a 33PP hull thats needs paint interior etc, is worth about $10K with no drives or power..............and we all know that by the time your done you will have $80K in it but it will never bring that so your better off spending the money on a nice running piece that somebody else already lost their a$$ on.
Also the cost between maintaining to the highest level and just doing enough to keep the boat running is very, very different. But, sadley when it comes time to sell, that gap is narrowed greatly between the boat thats a 10, the guy spent $$$$$ on to maintain, and the boat that has just been patched up to keep running, because like anything price sells. In the end the guy who spent tons of money to keep his boat in tip top shape never sees the return.
Also the cost between maintaining to the highest level and just doing enough to keep the boat running is very, very different. But, sadley when it comes time to sell, that gap is narrowed greatly between the boat thats a 10, the guy spent $$$$$ on to maintain, and the boat that has just been patched up to keep running, because like anything price sells. In the end the guy who spent tons of money to keep his boat in tip top shape never sees the return.
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heres three top guns:
http://www.midwestboatbrokerage.com/...R0&veh=2327443
http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o42966-en.html
http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o43854-en.html Asking $175K
You tell me whos thrown the most and least money into their boats, and who at the end looses the least. I will bet its the guy with the yellow boat that didnt spend more on paint and cosmetics than his boat will ever be worth.......
http://www.midwestboatbrokerage.com/...R0&veh=2327443
http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o42966-en.html
http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o43854-en.html Asking $175K
You tell me whos thrown the most and least money into their boats, and who at the end looses the least. I will bet its the guy with the yellow boat that didnt spend more on paint and cosmetics than his boat will ever be worth.......
#27
JC Performance Engines
Gold Member
302, the stagger TG boats will draw a certain crowd, they are extremely rare, and not for everyone for sure. Those other 2 TG boats you show are standard TGs, AND they've been for sale FOREVER!
The big boats w/ big power take BIG $$$.
I'm not saying the spider boat is $175, and I know for a fact the owner will take less.
A twin 1100hp drivetrain is $50k? All i know is to have Zul Build me a 750 is gonna run me $25k easy plus exhaust. I wouldnt even want to know how much his 1100s cost.
Sorry for the digression.
On the recent ad of the 33 in LA, i can't put a number on what its worth cuase there's not any pics of the engine room/bildge, or the cockpit. Rediculous.
If its clean and solid, it'd be a decent buy at $20k, no trailer. Have some new power built w/ exhaust for $15-$18 per side.
The big boats w/ big power take BIG $$$.
I'm not saying the spider boat is $175, and I know for a fact the owner will take less.
A twin 1100hp drivetrain is $50k? All i know is to have Zul Build me a 750 is gonna run me $25k easy plus exhaust. I wouldnt even want to know how much his 1100s cost.
Sorry for the digression.
On the recent ad of the 33 in LA, i can't put a number on what its worth cuase there's not any pics of the engine room/bildge, or the cockpit. Rediculous.
If its clean and solid, it'd be a decent buy at $20k, no trailer. Have some new power built w/ exhaust for $15-$18 per side.
#28
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http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o43291-en.html
Throw in some wet sixes for $20K (theyre all over) if you call around) and there you go......But hey the world needs retail buyers loosing their a$$ to make things go around
#29
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302, the stagger TG boats will draw a certain crowd, they are extremely rare, and not for everyone for sure. Those other 2 TG boats you show are standard TGs, AND they've been for sale FOREVER!
The big boats w/ big power take BIG $$$.
I'm not saying the spider boat is $175, and I know for a fact the owner will take less.
A twin 1100hp drivetrain is $50k? All i know is to have Zul Build me a 750 is gonna run me $25k easy plus exhaust. I wouldnt even want to know how much his 1100s cost.
Sorry for the digression.
On the recent ad of the 33 in LA, i can't put a number on what its worth cuase there's not any pics of the engine room/bildge, or the cockpit. Rediculous.
If its clean and solid, it'd be a decent buy at $20k, no trailer. Have some new power built w/ exhaust for $15-$18 per side.
The big boats w/ big power take BIG $$$.
I'm not saying the spider boat is $175, and I know for a fact the owner will take less.
A twin 1100hp drivetrain is $50k? All i know is to have Zul Build me a 750 is gonna run me $25k easy plus exhaust. I wouldnt even want to know how much his 1100s cost.
Sorry for the digression.
On the recent ad of the 33 in LA, i can't put a number on what its worth cuase there's not any pics of the engine room/bildge, or the cockpit. Rediculous.
If its clean and solid, it'd be a decent buy at $20k, no trailer. Have some new power built w/ exhaust for $15-$18 per side.
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