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Boatnt, Go get'em!!! If I'm not mistaken the Sunsation is only a 8' beam compared to a 8'6" in the PQ. The Sun's are nice but just to tight in the cockpit for me.

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It just depends on what you are looking for. I would not agree that the 28 PQ is faster than the 28 Sun. And the statement that the PQ is a full step over the Sun is dated, by at least a year.

And the awesome ride stuff - sorry, but I have owned both - and I'll take a Sun any day for rough ride. But PQ has more room in the cabin if that is what you want. Like I said, depends on what you are looking for.

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I think you are comparing the ride your 27 PQ gave against your 32 Sunsation.
Iam just comparing the 28PQ with the 288 Sunsation.
the 280PQ came out in 1999 and had a real step from day 1.
on the other hand the 288 had a (fake) step up until 2002.
Both great boats if you ask me :drink:

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When do boat builders start building the next years models?

Great Lakes Marina has a few 06's PowerQuests in already. I wonder when they were built?

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They must have gotten the only ones before they shut down. I beleive they come out just past mid year, almost like the auto industries do.

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when did powerquest come out with this model a 240 ultra

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...1&photo=1&url=

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The Ultra is a newer model of the Precept. I bought a new 24 back in 1997 and I believe it to be the first year they were made. We really enjoyed ours alot but just wanted a bigger boat is why it is gone. The thing we liked was the way the space was used, it has alot of room for a 24' boat, and if equiped with the same power I was able to out run alot of boats in our size range (232 rinkers, 232 and 252 baja's etc) :D
Very nice looking set up, Good Luck :D

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that boat just caught my eye i currently have a 27 laser
but i called that dealer and he said they would be at the detroit boat show this year (thats encouraging) with 4 2006 various models including that one posted just thought it was a good looking 24 ft boat (replaces the 237 stryker) he also said the new owners were meeting again today and they will either have a huge blowout sale at the detroit show or taking orders.... still up in the air

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Here is from fresh intel on PQ, at least I think, I have not read every page in this thread but here goes. The new owner/buyer of PQ is a company called TMB, they are in meetings firming up details today and should be back in buisiness apap. Long live PQ!!

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the factory or the dealer is going to be at the show????

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AMEN

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the dealer ...... they are the only dealer in michigan
great lakes marina
muskegon michigan..231 759-8230

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2005 model year 288's were the first to incorporate a true step. The new hull design also included a longer delta pad. I want to say it also added a notch at the transom but cannot remember for sure. MP has driven both a 28 PQ and a 288 Sunsation.

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I was in Holland today and stopped by the factory around 11:30 am. The office was closed and there were no car tracks in the snow in the parking lot. The front door had a 1 foot snow drift in front and nothing had been shoveled recently. The factory was closed and no action. Sure hope they are up and running again soon.

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This is prime season to be building up stocks for the dealers at the boat shows. If they do reopen I hope the dealers have some boats to take to the shows, or this years production may be a bit off.

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As far as them being at the GR show I would bet its pretty slim unless they reserved a spot long ago. I would think that's a pretty important show for a local company. And Mental your right! Got to have some stock to take along to the shows. I'm getting a little concerned at this point.

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Knot 4 Me and I were discussing this last nite - while we visited with the Captain. PQ, at least in our opinions, has been been more well known in the midwest. I know Sunsation is selling far more boats in other area now, particularly the south. 5 year plus ago I think Sun's main market was the same area as PQ, mainly this area of the midwest.

Makes me wonder if PQ needs to get their brand a bit more recognized through a broader range of the country. They make a great value boat. Good quality, nice appointments and competitively priced.

Hope they make a move soon, the longer this is a question in peoples mind the longer it will take to recover.

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Good point. With the auto industry is such bad shape, there's a lot of folks that had to get out of the sport in our area. If they were more recognized across the states ,they would be less susceptible to regional economic trends.

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Hi, this may be old news...but not to me.

I am told by an employee at Sunsation that PQ sold their 43 mold to them.

I know at one point Kevin's strategy in creating the 43 was to first increase demand for the 38 (so it wouldn't suffer when the 43 was introduced) and moving the 29 to a 30 and eliminating the 34.

Jeff

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I was not aware they had a 43? And I was at the plant twice last year.

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Jeff, maybe your right on that 43! Sun's been working on that 43 of there's for 2 years and Mental's been waiting for his since the begining. Maybe he's going to end up with a PQ after all?? :eek: :eek: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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Nope the boat mold that sunsation bought was a POWERPLAY

I have seen the new 43 at Sunsation being built and i assure you it looks nothing like the old Power play and certianly not a PQ

I drove by PQ two weeks ago in the middle of the day and there wasnt even one car in the parking lot

I am sure they will get there deal finished soon and re open (I hope so)

PQ fills a nice nitch in the marketplace with there line of "Gentalmans Offshore" Boats

Best of luck to PQ getting back in the fray soon :)

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The Powerplay makes more sense.

Mental your safe again with the Sun :D :D :D

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Not true - the Sunsation F4 based the hull off the PowerPlay 38 hull.

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Powerplay makes sense. The fella that told me does Sun's canvas work...and I think he got PQ and Powerplay mixed up.

Jeff

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I HEARD THEY MAY HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT A 43 BUT DIDN'T KNOW THEY HAD A MOLD. Any one have detail on it ?

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In 2001 with my last days at PQ when Jack purchased Powerquest from Kevin Hirdes.I presented Jack with a business plan to take the company to the next step. In that plan included revamping the tooling of the deck and dash helm on the 34 Vyper,and 38 Avenger, a new 26 footer which now the 260 is 13 years old.. Adding a 36 sport cruiser to the line up, and a New Stepped 44 foot offshore performance.. Jack was impressed with the presentation but didn"t follow ANY of the recommendations.This was a 5 year plan. So, nothing new. The tooling remains the same..Now it has affected the company by not going forward with new product..I hope for all the PQ owners and future wantabees rally around the new take over when it happens..

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Looks good on paper but that would have been a huge capital investment over a short period of time even for one of the bigger boat manufactures, let alone a small builder that has a mainly regional following. Stable ownership that believes in the product, improvements in quality control, and first-rate customer service at both the factory and dealership level are key to ensuring Powerquest has a future. Once those items are established, then and only then should the company look forward to improving/expanding their product line.

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I still think the 260 is a good looking boat
I also think when people think of PowerQuest they think of
Performance Not sport cruisers.
PowerQuest needs to make customer service job 1 and they need to treat every customer the same whether they are buying a 22 Razor or a 38 Avenger.

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The guys and gals at PQ have always treated me well. Even when they were doing vinyl work on my old Conquest a few years ago. You'd have thought I just bought the boat. I've always thought they had great customer service. I will admit the newer boats interiors have suffered a bit , as they've tried to cut some cost. But all in all thats a pretty easy fix.

Has anyone seen any activity around there this week??

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[QUOTE=Has anyone seen any activity around there this week??[/QUOTE]

If the weather is anything like here - everything is frozen solid around there this week :D :D

IMO, 2000 - 2004 was a tough time for any builder to be real innovative, especially the first 30 months of that. Dot Com bust and bad economy overall. It still remains sluggish, particularly for a regional company where the region is Michigan. I love Michigan, but the auto industry is so prevalent that it really has an impact when slumping.

There is a movement to mid open bows that PQ could take advantage of with less investment in re-tooling. West coast has gone to cat style deck boats, which don't seem to be catching on east of the Mississippi. It will be interesting to see their plan for comeback.

I hope they make it back - they make a very competitive boat that is great value for the $. But I do think they need to make some adjustments to their current product line. Not to replace it - but to enhance it.

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They always treated me fair when I was buying parts for my boat too.
They also treated me fair when my boat needed a couple of hundred bucks for warranty repairs.
But my experience when it came to BIG WARRANTY issues all I got was the run around.and talking with other PQ owner they had the same experience.
again I love my boat and its all in the past,I hope the new owners run the it like a small business were the owners are involved in it every day and I think they will do well :cool:

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Well I just tried to call PQ to get some stainless foot rails and the phone has been disconnected. Not good!

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I was told from a dealer in NH. that PQ was doing inventory and will be up and running when complete.? Irwin Marine

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What I heard today was not as promising. Sad thing is it sounds like PQ will only have a presence at the Detroit show this year, No GR or Chicago from what I hear. As only one dealer is in possession of 2006 boats. :( :(

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And if the factory is still closed when the show comes around - you should be able to buy those PQs really cheap. I would think it would be tough to sell a new boat from a manufacturer which you have no idea if the doors are opening back up or not.

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That had crossed my mind as well. I'd certainly think twice. But this is nothing new to boat manufactures. How many times was Fountain been in trouble, same with Baja and lets not forget when Donzi pretty much went down the tubes. Times have changed since then, but PQ is one of the rare offshore designs that gives more than ample cockpit room as well as plenty of overnight room below. Lets face it there's not to many other boats out there like that, especially at the $$$.

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When it comes to room nothing in the GO FAST line matches the PQ. Regardless of which one you have they give you space, performance and quality beyond the competition.
I love the look and would be very disappointed if they don't keep going.
Only next choice would be a 43 Black Thunder. :drink: :drink:

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I agree, the warranty would mean nothing......

I sure hope something is said about the new people etc what their plans are etc...the longer the silence goes on the worse it will be and rumors just start flying usually in the negative.

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The key is getting the staff back. If they go on to other jobs and don't come back they will have a harder time. I don't think I would want one of the first year boats that come off the line from a group of mostly new employees.