When Ryan Cole hosted our factory tour he told us of the changes they were making to the hull of the Avenger so we new what to look for when we bought this one. He also mentioned the nightmare he was having getting their new boat dialed in, the 30'.

I have a 2000 380 496's best speed 74.2 gps. Light on fuel water gear etc... 30 pitch b1 labbed by BBlades.

I've been on that boat too. Accurate quote on MPH. Probably running 550 or so HP. I drove a brand new 2000 34 with low fuel, 5 guys and 502s, obviously fresh - could not get the boat much past 66 mph GPS. Probably one of the questionable hulls.

Yours is the fastest 38 with 502s I have heard about - good for you.

The 99 with 496's is a low 70's boat , ma bey upper 60's based on the hull work that may have been done. My recommendation is to stay away from the small motors and the pre 2000 hulls if speed is a concern.

As far as bigger motors go my 2001 with 575sci's does mid 80's and could see upper 80's with different props. Equipped with HP500'S and the newer hull ( post 2000) you should see lower 80's

Good luck

Knot 4 me, Is the boat you are talking about Rich's?

Yup. I was holding/reading the GPS when he was testing props. He basically ran the same speed (76MPH) in the Shootout at LOTO in 2006 I believe.

Let me clarify that 77MPH was something like 77.6 - 77.8 MPH if memory serves. I know we did not hit 78 MPH. The conditions were less than ideal - hot July or August day, my 240 lb. azz was in the boat, and the water was pretty flat. Not sure of the fuel load but I know he was not on fumes. Toss my butt out of the boat and get some cool air, a light load, and a 2 foot chop and I have no doubt the boat could hit 80 MPH.

Not sure his bottom has been worked like some and who knows if the factory ever dialed in the setup with the extension boxes. 74MPH is extremely stout on a 380 with 502's. There may be more speed to be had with a set pf P5X's. They really picked up the nose on Rich's 380 and gained him some speed. With Bravo's his boat ran too flat even fully trimmed out.

I love Rich's boat, one sweet ride!!!!!!!!!!!! Dave

Yup, a nice ride. We didn't see him on the local lake this year as he kept his boat rack stored down at LOTO.

Our 38 was brokered by Great Lakes Marina in Muskegon MI. for one of our forum members, John ( 38 powerquest ). He told me the factory did alot of work on it to get this kind of speed. He also did a ton of things to it like Mitcher T custom paint work on dash panels and the orange yellow fade paint on the sides as well a flat screen tv just to mention a few in 2005 then sold it to us Oct. of 06. This boat don't seem to run very flat with the Bravos but I'm no expert so maybe I should experiment with the P5X's next year if I can find the time. Any suggestion as to what pitch to start with and were Rich's labbed?
Why don't we see any of you Clinton Lake people on Shelbyville Lake? It's alot of fun there, we spent all of August on the water with the wife getting up every morning at 0500 to drive to work.

I looked up the price for the Hydro's and they will not be an option for me at 2 grand a set.