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mars 08-14-2010 08:35 PM

Silencer 280
 
Hi everyone,
I'm looking to buy a Silencer 280, and found this one and would like to know if anybody know this boat. http://www.yachttraderonline.com/lis...encer-97066302
The price seems to be high, but maybe it's worth it.
Any info would be apreciated.
Thank you

mars 08-16-2010 12:08 AM

Hi, thank you for the reply, first I would like to mention that I'm looking for a 280 with stock 496 HO engine and after reading a few of your post, I can see that yours has a supercharged on it.
By the way I read the tread about the 2 inche shorty, good info on that, with a stock engine do you think it will still blow up or do like you did, add a spacer. About what kind of $$ can it cost

AJ POWERPLAY 08-17-2010 05:44 AM

I'm not sure if you would see any gains going with that drive... not enough. motor. That price seems a little high for that particular boat... there's one up by me with a 500efi for that price

Pete280 08-18-2010 07:46 PM

look up the blue book on that boat, probably around 35K, keep looking and dont narrow the search just to a 280,

mars 08-19-2010 10:48 PM

Hi, is there a big difference in price between a boat that has been use in fresh or salt water, can this be seen easily.
Are boats usually selling at the price that Nada gives out ?
Thank you all for the replys

mars 08-22-2010 12:02 AM

Thank you for your offer, but if you take a look on my second post, I'm looking for a stock 496HO.
I have taken a look at your tread New to Powerquest and you have a good looking boat, for the ink that you gave me, you have to be a member to view deeper to see what the link has to show

Pete280 08-22-2010 08:38 PM

I may pay 5-10% more for a fresh water boat, it depends on the owner whether or not you can tell, a well maintained salt water boat can look just as good as a fresh water boat, it just takes a lot more care, washing, flushing, etc..

S.E of Disorder 08-25-2010 05:43 PM

Their are a few in the classifieds..

AJ POWERPLAY 08-25-2010 10:10 PM

Book value really can't be used by the buyer or the seller considering it has no options for upgraded interior, upgraded exterior and graphics, motor hours, labbed props, etc... too many variables that can alter the price of a vessel are not accounted for on Nada or Kbb. That being said a boat is worth what a buyer is willing to pay. With good power I wouldn't be afraid to get into the 40's for an excellent shape 280, but then again your approaching twin engine prices then and why not go bigger? Unless you want to stick with a single... which if that were my case id definitely have a 280 silencer with blue power

Bob280Silencer 11-03-2010 02:14 PM

Blue motor IS the only way to go! You have to remember with a "blue motor" you get much more than the engine. It's a proven package.The drive,headers and increased re-sale value.

verbi69 11-03-2010 02:54 PM

Or a completely rebuilt 496 HO with Raylar 525 HO kit....:drink:

Bob280Silencer 11-03-2010 04:19 PM

YES,there is that!! lol The blue motor is such a complete package though,you don't have to really buy anything. Personally,I have this "need for speed" so I sold mine and built my 548. I'm very happy with it I just want a bigger boat with twins so I bought the Cig.

verbi69 11-07-2010 06:23 PM

I'm curious as to what I should list my boat for dollar wise??

Bob280Silencer 11-12-2010 09:56 AM

I had mine inspected last year and it appraised at $65K. The economy sucks so I listed mine at $59500. This was PQ demo boat in '02 so it does have all the options though.This thing rocks but I just wanted to give a bigger boat with twins a chance.Bought a '87 Kevlar Top Gun with 598s na.Sweet.Tranmissions rock!

verbi69 11-12-2010 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by Bob280Silencer (Post 3251856)
I had mine inspected last year and it appraised at $65K. The economy sucks so I listed mine at $59500. This was PQ demo boat in '02 so it does have all the options though.This thing rocks but I just wanted to give a bigger boat with twins a chance.Bought a '87 Kevlar Top Gun with 598s na.Sweet.Tranmissions rock!

Your making me jealous!!
So you were able to move the 280 or are you a 2 boat owner??
I am leaning towards the 340 Vyper. Hopefully that won't be a dissapointment.

diggin H20 11-12-2010 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by verbi69 (Post 3251894)
Your making me jealous!!
So you were able to move the 280 or are you a 2 boat owner??
I am leaning towards the 340 Vyper. Hopefully that won't be a dissapointment.

Love my Vyper!!!

BillR 11-13-2010 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by verbi69 (Post 3251894)
Your making me jealous!!
So you were able to move the 280 or are you a 2 boat owner??
I am leaning towards the 340 Vyper. Hopefully that won't be a dissapointment.

I went from a 280 to a 340; I wouldn't recommend it. The 340 does not ride very good. In fact, I think the 280 handled rough water better. The 340 was (like all PQ's) well built and comfortable, but unless you live on a river or similar smooth water, I would keep your options open.

Just FYI.

verbi69 11-13-2010 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by BillR (Post 3252314)
I went from a 280 to a 340; I wouldn't recommend it. The 340 does not ride very good. In fact, I think the 280 handled rough water better. The 340 was (like all PQ's) well built and comfortable, but unless you live on a river or similar smooth water, I would keep your options open.

Just FYI.

Holly crap, who would of thought that possible, how would the 280 outhandle the 340??
What would be equivalent to the Vyper?
PS: I want a windshield boat.

verbi69 11-13-2010 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by diggin H20 (Post 3252109)
Love my Vyper!!!

Can you elaborate on what you like, anything to compare it too??

diggin H20 11-13-2010 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by BillR (Post 3252314)
I went from a 280 to a 340; I wouldn't recommend it. The 340 does not ride very good. In fact, I think the 280 handled rough water better. The 340 was (like all PQ's) well built and comfortable, but unless you live on a river or similar smooth water, I would keep your options open.

Just FYI.

I would have to disagree. I boat regularly at LOTO and my 340 handles that nasty water pretty well. I will agree that it may not be the BEST riding boat in its class but my 280 definitely did not do as well as my 340. This is just my opinion but I too have owned and driven both so I feel I can give an honest opinion as well. Good luck with whatever you decide.

BillR 11-14-2010 09:19 AM

Don't get me wrong, I really like PQ's! The 340 is a comfortable boat, great for overnighting and spacious and really well built. I boat on the lower Ches Bay, and most of the time the water is confused and snotty. The 280 was small enough to maneuver around. The 340 just pounds in 1' - 2's. I have had it out in larger water and it was just a bad ride. Before I bought my Top Gun, I rode LOTS of boats so I wouldn't make the same error. I found for ride quality in a 34ish size boat, Formula, Sunsation and especially Fountain - those boats rode well. For staying on the boat, the PQ is hard to beat. I highly recommend riding as many boats as possible before you buy. You owners of 340's, not trying to piss you off, but just giving my experience. I still think my 280 did better in the rough than the 340.
Also, if you need to access items in the 340 / 380 bilge, some items are not serviceable unless you remove a motor - which would be quite difficult as well.

Vyper340 11-14-2010 09:34 AM

BILLR you can't remember yesterday let alone what your 28 did way back in 2000/2001. There is something to be said about the center of gravity on the 32-26' range depending on boat and that is was affects the ride.

Besides, you can't even get your boat in your list correct. YOu DON'T HAVE A SCARAB you have a Wellcraft. Or maybe you consider a Fiat to be a Ferrari because they may have been designed by Pininfarina. :) Man up. :)

Macklin 11-14-2010 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by Vyper340 (Post 3252762)
BILLR you can't remember yesterday let alone what your 28 did way back in 2000/2001. There is something to be said about the center of gravity on the 32-26' range depending on boat and that is was affects the ride.

Besides, you can't even get your boat in your list correct. YOu DON'T HAVE A SCARAB you have a Wellcraft. Man up.

RMFAO! OMG that is funny Cowboy!

Yeah, have to question comparing a 280 to the 340. Come on Bill. The 340 is a wave crusher compared to ANY 28 footer. Because it is a heavy 34. But it has a lot of freeboard to make for that roomy cabin, which is what negatively affects the ride.

Let's be honest here. The 340 really only has about 30' of wetted surface after you deduct the 3' swim platform and 12" notch. It is what it is...

verbi69 11-14-2010 10:30 AM

Good info and read, thanks guys.
Another thing talking lengths of wetted area, the overall length of a 280 is 27'-7", deduct the 2 foot swim platform, and the 6"-7" notch and the wetted area of the 280 quickly becomes 25'.
I would have to think there would be no comparison in ride quality between the 2 boats base on length alone.

BillR 11-14-2010 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by Vyper340 (Post 3252762)

Besides, you can't even get your boat in your list correct. YOu DON'T HAVE A SCARAB you have a Wellcraft. Or maybe you consider a Fiat to be a Ferrari because they may have been designed by Pininfarina. :) Man up. :)

Scooter, if you had a clue, it would surprise everyone. I guess your 26 Scarab you had was a Wellcraft too. I almost forgot, it only had a 454, but just because it was YOUR boat, it was the fastest 26 Scarab on the water. LOL!

I guess you also forget the ride we both took in the 35' Fountain in 4' to 5' waves. We both had 340's and agreed that our boats couldn't do or ride like that Fountain.

Macklin remembers the trips we both took to chiropractors after riding in 2' of better chop. Don't have that problem in the Top Gun, 37 AT or my Scarab.

Don't forget, I love PQ's! But I did not care for the ride of my 340. I guess you trade speed for ride comfort. With lab bed 30's, I hit 80 pretty regularly.

If you are looking at a 340, ride it in a fair chop and see if it is for you.

Bob280Silencer 11-14-2010 06:50 PM

Verbi,Still got the 280.Talking to several people right now about it. I foung this Cig and couldn't wait.Actually,if you count the party barge,I'm a three boat owner!! lolI love the 280,just wanted to try bigger with twins.

Macklin 11-15-2010 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by BillR (Post 3252899)
Macklin remembers the trips we both took to chiropractors after riding in 2' of better chop. Don't have that problem in the Top Gun, 37 AT or my Scarab.

Yes, I do...but my trips to the back doctor was after long runs across the Bay in our 27/28's. That ended after we bought the 340's.

Maybe your memory IS going...:grinser010:

BillR 11-15-2010 06:52 AM


Originally Posted by Macklin (Post 3253189)

Maybe your memory IS going...:grinser010:

Probably is! :lolhit:

boatnt 11-15-2010 09:04 PM

I still say buy a 30 Revenge,

verbi69 11-16-2010 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by boatnt (Post 3253781)
I still say buy a 30 Revenge,

Nice boat indeed but my better half wants the enclosed head....

Pete280 11-17-2010 04:55 AM

well not to rain on anyone parade but I sold my 2000 280 in the spring for 28K, i think I let it go for a couple thousand less than I could have got but I dont care how many options it has, anything above 35K is not going to sell, I would consider my boat in very good condition, the new owner is trying to sell and I think he started at 35k and is down to 30K or so.

just look around and see what else is out there, a lot of nice boats for 30k-35K, I think the boat sold new for like 65k

boatnt 11-21-2010 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by verbi69 (Post 3254019)
Nice boat indeed but my better half wants the enclosed head....

Nobody spents any time in the enclosed head,besides most Marinas have nice clean bathrooms if you overnight a lot.

as a side note,
the Revenge 300 is the only true designed twin step boat PQ ever built,the 340 and 380 where step inserts added to the original V hull design so PQ could keep up with all the other brand step bottom boats ,not to say that they dont ride nice,Ive been in a 380 and they ride ok,
The Revenge 300 was disigned as a twin step from the begining and took them over 5 years before they got it right and started selling them.for a 30 footer the Revenge rides exceptionally well

pq man 11-21-2010 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by boatnt (Post 3258068)
Nobody spents any time in the enclosed head,besides most Marinas have nice clean bathrooms if you overnight a lot.

as a side note,
the Revenge 300 is the only true designed twin step boat PQ ever built,the 340 and 380 where step inserts added to the original V hull design so PQ could keep up with all the other brand step bottom boats ,not to say that they dont ride nice,Ive been in a 380 and they ride ok,
The Revenge 300 was disigned as a twin step from the begining and took them over 5 years before they got it right and started selling them.for a 30 footer the Revenge rides exceptionally well

Blah Blah Blah !!!!!!!!!!!

boatnt 11-21-2010 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by pq man (Post 3258149)
Blah Blah Blah !!!!!!!!!!!

Prove me wrong!

verbi69 11-21-2010 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by pq man (Post 3258149)
Blah Blah Blah !!!!!!!!!!!

Lol...you guys are funny!! What is the cuddy height in your Revenge??

boatnt 11-21-2010 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by verbi69 (Post 3258209)
Lol...you guys are funny!! What is the cuddy height in your Revenge??

He is bitter because he chine walks all over the place,not the boats fault ,just inxexperience driver

The 300 does not have a stand up cabin,unless your as tall as pqman:lolhit:

verbi69 11-21-2010 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by boatnt (Post 3258226)
He is bitter because he chine walks all over the place,not the boats fault ,just inxexperience driver

The 300 does not have a stand up cabin,unless your as tall as pqman:lolhit:

LOL......boatnt, if you have a chance can you let me know what the cabin height is in your 300??

pq man 11-21-2010 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by boatnt (Post 3258226)
He is bitter because he chine walks all over the place,not the boats fault ,just inxexperience driver

The 300 does not have a stand up cabin,unless your as tall as pqman:lolhit:

First things first all 5ft 4in of you can stand up in your cabin and as far as inexpierence go's don't think so you could not stand the boat no more because of that so you figured you would just stick it to a friend

boatnt 11-21-2010 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by pq man (Post 3258319)
First things first all 5ft 4in of you can stand up in your cabin and as far as inexpierence go's don't think so you could not stand the boat no more because of that so you figured you would just stick it to a friend

Dude,
you all spun out or what?

Sorry you feel that way,
boat was pretty much sold to another board member from here when you called me and made an offer and bought the boat,
Dont really know why the (just stick it to a friend )comment was made?

speechless not sure what to say!!

verbi69 11-22-2010 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by boatnt (Post 3258328)
Dude,
you all spun out or what?

You guys fightin' ????


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