290 Enticer With Supercharger's?
 

Hi everyone, I now have a 1999 Raizor, but am looking to up grade to the Enticer. One of my dreams is to build a boat with blower's. I checked out a 98 and a 97 this last weekend, and noticed on thes older carb model there may not be enough room to get a pro charger in there. I am looking at the newer 99 and 00 model's with the mpi 310 454's in them. It looks like in the picture's that I have seen there may be more room at the front of the motor with these engine's. So I guess what I am asking is, does any one have supercharger experience with the Enticer's either carb or efi? Can anyone pull some measurement's between the front of the 454 mpi efi motor's to the back of the back seat. Thanks in advance for your help!

I have a 290 with the 7.4 mpi's I'll get some measurements out to u probably Wednesday along with pics to give you an idea of what u would be working with. I'm also going to be looking at going up to a 34/38 soon so may want to check out my boat... its under the "upgrades to 290" thread has fresh mitcher t paint this year, painted dashes, JL Audio sound system, 25p mirage plus's labbed to 24 by BBlades, gets 70 on gps... great boat I love it just looking to get into a Vyper or avenger with blue power...

Thank you, that will be such a big help!!! I was just looking at the pic's of your boat last night with the new paint. Very very nice looking boat! Thanks again for your help, think about what you are going to want out of your boat and let me know. Looking to upgrade sometime between now and next summer. Yours would definatley have everything I am looking for. I don't remember, did it have the weekender package with shorepower, microwave, and fridge?

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As you can see pretty tight with the back of the seat.... not impossible but tons of room on either side of the engines, and approx 11" from the top of the motor to the sunpad. Not sure the 7.4mpi is the motors you want to do it with... the mags would be much more fit for the extra power... but with low boost maybe Ud be alright.
Let me know if u need anymore pictures or specs...

This is very helpful, thanks alot. You are right it would be very very tight. Pro charger says you need 2.5 inches in front of the power steering pulley to clear the intercooler. It looks like there may not be enough room to get them in there. Lot's of room everywhere else, just not in front of the motors themselves.

rob, if you go with the 310hp, 454, check with a reputable engine builder, i talked to tyler crocket out of MI about that same set up, he wouldnt even sell me the kit, said them engines wouldnt last if i pro charged them, i took his advice

You had the 25's labbed to 24's ? explain please have the same boat same props what rpm's are you turning now any change? thanks

If your looking to go fast buy a different hull for big power...

No offense to PQ. They built a nice boat but are very hard to make fast...

Powerplay is right... for boost is go with the step hulled Vyper or Avenger, or maybe the 300 Revenge if u like the size of the 290...
I'll more than likely be sticking with PQ just due to the best in class room and great ride... speed of the Vyper is pretty good too Vyper on torch with 500's gets 84 but its not how fast your boat will go its how fast your boat will go in the current water conditions... rough stuff is where the heavy hulled PQ is nice.

Okay i hear what you guys are saying. I spend 80 percent of my time at hardy, and want to do half a dozen overnighters with my wife, and two small chrildren a year. I also like really loud and fast things:) I know the 7.4l mpi motors in the enticer are not ideal for supercharging but the rest ot the package looks pretty good. Here is what I am thinking now, tell me what you think. I look for a 280 silencer (me and my wife really like the pq's) with the hp 500 efi motor, this should come with hydralic steering, trim tabs, and xr drive, if I have done my research correctly. So that when I pro charge that thing the rest of the boat should have most of the supporting mods i need. Not to mention a boat making 740 hp on 5psi. I figure that should put me somewhere in the 85 mph range? I can try to find one also with the weekender package, so we still get the camper canvas, microwave, fridge, and shore power, to make the camping weekend's more comftorable. I realize it does not have the room of a vyper, or avenger, but i have to be realistic about what I will be using the boat for 80 percent of the time, but still allow me do the some small trips. Does this sound like a good idea at all? Also does anyone have any experience with the hp 500 efi in the silencer, and maybe even one with a charger hanging off the front of it. Those cmi pipes sound pissed!!!

I believe a 500efi will come with an xz drive instead of xr... with that sort of power with a procharger id beef the drive up anyway. As far as overnighting with the family id go with the enticer there is quite a bit more room

also there is a silencer with a 500efi on Detroit Craigslist I believe... i'll pm you the link bc I'm not sure if they allow links on the thread if it is a classified

I had an enticer with 502s and now own a silencer with procharged 496. I dont think the blowers would possibly fit on the enticer without some back seat mods. The blower on my silencer looks like it came from PQ with it on. Mine has all the bells and whistles but I took the microwave out and use the extra room for storage.
You lost me on whether you are looking for a silencer or an enticer though.
Neither of those hulls are designed for 85 mph.

Focusing on the silnecer at this point. You must be getting up there in speed with the procharged 496. What speeds are you seeing, and how does the hull take it? The problem I am facing is I want a 85 mph boat all said and done, but also need some of the camping features.

Sorry to say this but you wont see an honest 85mph from a 290 or a 280.
It takes alot to get there and a hull that could handle it.

Is do high 70's with 4 blades and a lot of power... but any more than that and it could get crazy

Turn key 75. Probably could squeeze a few more reliable mph with right prop,drive height and less of a load. I always have a full tank and multiple coolers. The boat is not designed to do 85. Not saying it cant handle it but I dont think it would be fun with your family hitting any waves that fast. The boat rides good. You cant plow water like I was able to with my 290. Instead you get on top of the waves. It does not slam in rough chop like the 290. I dont do the river boating like I used to. My boating is on Lake Michigan now. I am looking to get into a 34.