K-planes, hydraulic steering, Trailer, redo cockpit, exterior paint?? Etc,etc, you could dump a 100k pretty easy.

Oh yeah, forgot about those at first glance and I agree, all the items required to complete properly could ad up very quickly.
Would put you up into the upper cost bracket quickly.
Let's say someone bought mine for 100k, or even 95k, and put another 10k in it for whatever reasons, in my opinion would be the most cost effective way of getting into a complete package that could be enjoyed immediately and actually resold at a later date without any kind of stigma surrounding the boat.
Again, just my opinion for what it's worth (or not).....

Calling it a 2012 model seems a little deceptive too

I have the guys number with the boat if anyone really wants it, send me a PM. He said a PQ factory guy was consulted during the build but now seeing the pictures I am not sure who would advise that interior! I will be watching and not biding on that project boat! I think they are looking to get over 40k for it :eekdrop: happy bidding! :cool-smiley-011:

don't forget this does not look to be the updated 380 the last owner built,,this looks to be the older original 380 they had sitting next to the updated one taking measurements from,looks to have the old style stringer set up,

I also like the mismatched dash panels and what looks to be a instrument panel from a 1996 290 PQ
did anybody catch the plastic shore power plug?come on at least use a stainless steel plug,,

oh well,good luck with the sale.

Boatnt, I knew it wouldn't take you long to point out the technical stuff we missed with that keen eye of yours!

That is a poor representation of a once great brand.

I like the windshield probably the most of the whole boat..

Excellent choice of words!

[QUOTE=boatnt;4126058]don't forget this does not look to be the updated 380 the last owner built,,this looks to be the older original 380 they had sitting next to the updated one taking measurements from,looks to have the old style stringer set up,

I also like the mismatched dash panels and what looks to be a instrument panel from a 1996 290 PQ
did anybody catch the plastic shore power plug?come on at least use a stainless steel plug,,


From the earlier auction pics it also looked like the deck had updated air intake vents for the engine bay...

As Pwraddr stated: That is a poor representation of a once great brand.

Looking at the pics of the listing it has the same air intake vents as my '05.

yes there was 2- 380s,,this one is the older design I want to say 2005/6 model year,I am sure the other one will pup up soon.

I bet the banks are wishing they had taken CK's million dollar offer on the whole package, would have saved them a whole lot of cash and aggravation....

Ck????

I think we all wish that.....

Neil Wallace tried working out numerous deals with realistic numbers and they wanted nothing to do with it

CK Motorsports I believe it was.
I've forgotten who the owner is but he put in a solid offer to buy the whole package before everything was spilt up went to auction and the banks weren't hungry then.

That's the 05 that was on the floor when the co was purchased by phil. Vin changed many times. It was sold to Jim Poshard and never finished but the money was gone .(imagine that). The 525,its's and xr's from the previous auction were his for that boat. He also was the personal guarantor to united fidelity bank for PQ. He since has passed away. I wonder why they have registration numbers? unless they had to take out a assurity bond to get a title. not like your running the boat.

Was the redesign ever water tested? Talk about a risk.....

No

I wasn't a new "design" it was the construction process (infusion), with some liners, and air inlets, stainless windshield (cosmetic) . the running surface was not touched. The 38's need more air for the engines. There have been many 38's with damaged hatches from people lifting the hatch while running them. They did pick up some mph.

Boat should have been sent to the chipper. 2012... :Whatever:

I am going to try that next time out and see if your theory is correct, if so the sawsall is coming out, that will entail the "new design"....lol!

Why send it to the chipper, just finish it as it should have been and not half-assed.

If this guys bought both hulls I sure as hell hope his second attempt is much better.

The 380 shows closed at $21k. Anyone we know???

Wasn't me!

It is a 10 year old used boat. It will take 2014 dollars and prices to complete a 2005 boat. You would be obscenely upside down in it to finish it as it should have been unless you get the hull for peanuts. I'd put that same money towards a used 38 TG TS all day. You would have to really, really be in love with 380 PQ's to take this project on.

Regardless of today's dollars, yesterday's dollars and potential dollars, if someone has a good donor boat with a dead hull there would be value if obtained cheap enough and if that person was mechanically inclined and could do the work themselves and they were ok with the potential marriage.
Having said that would I risk buying it and having to "invest" 100-150k, he'll no, I'd be buying something else already completed.

Fiberglass is Fiberglass... It's not like a car. Buy it and drop your power and drives in it. Not going to be a show boat by any means but no reason to chip it. Needs a nicer sunpad and rear seat but used would be the way to go here.

The chipper comment only pertains to the boat if it is sold as a 2012 I have no problem with the boat existing as a 2005 or whatever model year it was actually produced in.

Big project for sure.

We all know Cig had a bunch of hulls that were passed off as newer years going forward from the recession... lets track em down and chip em!!! :riding:

Booya!
To the chipper I say, plus cigarettes will kill ya!!!

The difference is that Cigarette is still in business and was the company that finished the boats. Neither is true in this case.

My point gentlemen is I'd rather not see a "2012" 380 running around that is cobbled together tarnishing the PQ legacy. If a competent individual or shop gets this used 2005 380 up and running and it is accurately represented as such for future owners then all is good. The boating industry has enough black eyes.

:ernaehrung004:You old bald guys are sooooo sensitive...lol:ernaehrung004:

I agree with you Knot, it is a cheap move to a once great builder!

FYI, a friend of mine claims he seen the 380 auction boat being trailered down I-94 in north east Macomb County Michigan late morning today. Maybe someone got it?

Somebody musta...