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Red Stripe 04-04-2014 10:01 PM

2012 Powerquest?
 
Saw this "brand new" 22 on craigslist, Thoughts...?

http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/boa/4404842391.html

Questofpower 04-05-2014 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by Red Stripe (Post 4101644)
Saw this "brand new" 22 on craigslist, Thoughts...?

http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/boa/4404842391.html

Looks a lot like the Antera I use to have (2ft shorter), but the cockpit is a little different with the little platforms the chairs are sitting on. Must have been a left over hull. Rigging looks good in the engine bay.

PQKEV 04-05-2014 07:16 AM

I also heard that the last 38' PQ (that one that was half done when they had the PQ auction) is coming up for sale soon also with a new 2012 or 2013 title. Rumors are that the boat is being sold completed but with no power or drives also to be sold at the auction listed in the ad that Red Stripe posted. I tried to get more info locally from a name I received that is putting the boat together for the new owner but they did not want to talk about it and said he would give my name to the owner of the boat and he never returned my calls. I think all the work is happening in a SUPER SERCET building in Holland somewhere! :lolhit:

verbi69 04-05-2014 07:37 AM

I wonder who bought the 38 and who is putting it together? Why all the secrecy surrounding this ?

pp185xlt 04-05-2014 08:32 AM

I bet it will fly with a 6.2

verbi69 04-05-2014 11:56 AM

My buddy had a 22 razor and dropped a 500 EFI in it, now that flew like a raped ape!

PQ260SX 04-05-2014 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by verbi69 (Post 4101735)
I wonder who bought the 38 and who is putting it together? Why all the secrecy surrounding this ?

Good question. I have been pondering this A LOT over the last few days. Perhaps someone is afraid of being sued? Perhaps someone very deep in PQ history is involved?? And why the eff is there still no one popping these hulls again??? There really are no new options on the market these days that I am really that interested in..... The time is now........

boatnt 04-06-2014 07:28 AM

brand new boat never sold but has MC numbers on the side??

how can someone take a hull the was built back in 2006-07 and sell it as a 2012,,re tagging the hull?

who ever buys those left over better like them because they will be hard to resell..
how many of us would go out and buy a new Saturn or Pontiac?

boatnt 04-06-2014 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by PQ260SX (Post 4101983)
. Perhaps someone is afraid of being sued?

sued?why?
they were sold at a auction not stolen,,right?

Drock78 04-06-2014 07:51 AM

I didn't think that any of them sold at the auction. Maybe the bank is having someone put them together to try to get at least some money out of them.

boatnt 04-06-2014 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by Drock78 (Post 4102103)
I didn't think that any of them sold at the auction. Maybe the bank is having someone put them together to try to get at least some money out of them.

well I thought you were looking for another boat,,what year would you like it to be??...09-10-11-12?maybe 15?

spazboz 04-06-2014 08:48 AM

I think this was the hull phil wanted to put a custom hatch and vents on and stick one of the 500's from that Apache into. But like everthing else in that building with them, the project was budgeted on a bad fart and a prayer.

verbi69 04-06-2014 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by PQ260SX (Post 4101983)
Good question. I have been pondering this A LOT over the last few days. Perhaps someone is afraid of being sued? Perhaps someone very deep in PQ history is involved?? And why the eff is there still no one popping these hulls again??? There really are no new options on the market these days that I am really that interested in..... The time is now........

Let's face it guys, the 38 are awesome as they are but they need work to bring them into current standards for a new built boat for today standards.
IMO there would need to be tweaks done to the hull to bring it up to new standards.
Engine compartment needs the room of the 300 in front of the engines for ease of servicing, and the notched transom should be eliminated (eliminate the 34 ft running surface) and make it 36' + of running surface.
Re-tweak the dash to encompass ressessed electronic navigation and include power bolsters as standard. New power with the 565 and ITS to name a few upgrades, Ilmors would be an awesome choice.
Again this is only my opinion and what I would want to see in a new build.

pp185xlt 04-06-2014 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by verbi69 (Post 4102155)
Let's face it guys, the 38 are awesome as they are but they need work to bring them into current standards for a new built boat for today standards.
IMO there would need to be tweaks done to the hull to bring it up to new standards.
Engine compartment needs the room of the 300 in front of the engines for ease of servicing, and the notched transom should be eliminated (eliminate the 34 ft running surface) and make it 36' + of running surface.
Re-tweak the dash to encompass ressessed electronic navigation and include power bolsters as standard. New power with the 565 and ITS to name a few upgrades, Ilmors would be an awesome choice.
Again this is only my opinion and what I would want to see in a new build.

The notched transom gave it the speed. Bring them to standards, that's what Phil was attempting to do when he started vacuum bagging them. They have no produced a completed boat since 2006, of course things need to be brought up to today's standards. As for the person that said that someone needs to start plugging the molds because there aren't any options. That's because there is not a large enough market. Look at all the other power boats, fountain, Baja, formula, sunsation. They are defunct or really hurting.

To answer everyone's questions. It is not a former pq employee, its not the bank. Someone approached the bank and bought the 22 and the 38. He has assembled a crew to put them together. As for the auction, if you plan on purchasing this boat and have to trailer it any distance, find another trailer.

verbi69 04-06-2014 02:29 PM

So is the 38 boat going to be completed to the point where one has to add gas and go or???
Why not have a build thread going to help gather interest?

pp185xlt 04-06-2014 05:38 PM

From my understanding the 38 will need motors, drives, and transom assy.

PQKEV 04-06-2014 08:23 PM

Why not have a build thread going to help gather interest?[/QUOTE]

Hey... there is a great idea! :lolhit: Why did they not think of that! :thankyouthankyou:

They must not want interest in the boat since the contact I had for it would not call me back.

verbi69 04-06-2014 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by pp185xlt (Post 4102328)
From my understanding the 38 will need motors, drives, and transom assy.

I wonder what it will have for paint/graphics, and what they would want for it like mentioned?

verbi69 04-06-2014 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by PQKEV (Post 4102406)
Why not have a build thread going to help gather interest?

Hey... there is a great idea! :lolhit: Why did they not think of that! :thankyouthankyou:

They must not want interest in the boat since the contact I had for it would not call me back.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that kinda sucks...

Pwraddr 04-06-2014 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by verbi69 (Post 4102416)
I wonder what it will have for paint/graphics, and what they would want for it like mentioned?

IMO, it isn't worth much with no power, drives, or transom assys. Those pieces will be more than the boat is even worth.

verbi69 04-06-2014 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by Pwraddr (Post 4102426)
IMO, it isn't worth much with no power, drives, or transom assys. Those pieces will be more than the boat is even worth.

That's my thought as well. By the time it's said and done it would be a very expensive marriage.

Pwraddr 04-06-2014 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by verbi69 (Post 4102447)
That's my thought as well. By the time it's said and done it would be a very expensive marriage.

Yup. Think about it. You are trying to get around 100k for yours. This boat we speak of is pieced together with a bunch of **** laying around for nearly 8 years, give or take. There is no way in hell you could buy that bought and then buy the power for under 100. And it is still an old boat not even assembled by the fellas from PQ.

Good luck to the group assembling and the buyer.

pp185xlt 04-06-2014 10:25 PM

I have my doubts as well. It will be very interesting to see what the 22 brings at the auction.

kevlar382 04-07-2014 01:18 PM

Maybe this was said earlier, I didn't read all the post but the same guy bought the partly completed 22 and I think 2 38 hulls and decks. I talked to him the other day, he lives by me. He bought them from the bank not at the auction. Put the 22 together and is taking the two 38s to an auction in Grand Rapids Mi and going to run them through the way they are.

RSCHAP1 04-07-2014 01:52 PM

interesting...
I was wondering how the 22 could be a 2012 boat too, and with 70 hours on the motor too

kevlar382 04-13-2014 09:03 AM

He bought it unfinished so I'm assuming a used motor. Not sure what he did to be able to call it a 2012.

RSCHAP1 04-15-2014 07:06 AM

So who is "he"?
Just curious as to whether it was done in a backyard, a decent shop, or a well known rigger with a super reputation that would drive me to bid even higher:)
I think that 22 would be a nice fit for the lil' lake I live on...

fantastixvoyage 04-15-2014 08:45 AM

The 22' is already close to $18k with auction still running until tonight. Already seems high but be curious to see what it ends up at.

My understanding is a local guy picked this up to flip. Looking at the pics it looks like its at a place that does more metal fab than boat building but who knows.

RSCHAP1 04-15-2014 01:04 PM

One of a kind...(for what that is worth...?)
I think it is pretty cool. I live on a small lake so it does look like it would be fun at home.
Not sure what to think of it being called a 2012, but guessing that the 6.2 would be a pretty good match for that boat.
Says composite build and vac. bagged.
Of course it looks like it could be better with some more details like thru hull, choice, tabs...etc.
AND a trailer:)

fantastixvoyage 04-15-2014 09:24 PM

Looks like it closed at $24k. Not for me but i guess someone wanted it pretty bad.

The 6.2 would be "ok". I did a 454mpi to 502mpi swap last summer and the owners love it. Largest power the factory put in one was the 454mpi so it was a nice upgrade.

dockrocker 05-21-2014 10:43 AM

2012(?) 38 up for auction, apparently by some outfit called repocast (www.repocast.com) according to the CL ad. Looks like no power or drives. I could not find the boat on the auction site.

RickyDanner 05-21-2014 02:33 PM

any guess as to what this 38' goes for?

Drock78 05-21-2014 03:05 PM

15k but there's no way they will let it go for that. I bet they want 50k. Needs power, transom assemblies, drives, steering, keep planes, indicators, controls and trailer....there's 40k.

dockrocker 05-21-2014 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by Drock78 (Post 4125888)
15k but there's no way they will let it go for that. I bet they want 50k. Needs power, transom assemblies, drives, steering, keep planes, indicators, controls and trailer....there's 40k.

And then you've got a 8+ year old hull / deck, built by persons unknown at a company that is no longer in business, with no idea what work went into it, whether corners were cut as they were going under, etc etc. Then finished by "someone", apparently, as I thought the 38s that were left when PQ went down were separate hulls and decks. You'd have to really like to roll the dice with one of these...

Cigret1 05-21-2014 03:58 PM

Agree, I was guessing all of 60k to rig it proper, it would be cool to have, if the price is right...

RickyDanner 05-21-2014 04:11 PM

IF well built, it could be a good fit for someone - my question is does anyone know anything about the person that put it together?

My guess is they want 40+ for it.

verbi69 05-21-2014 05:02 PM

It think the engine hatch and cockpit color scheme is cheap looking along with the back seat, no headrests.....no side pocket storage just covered up with upholstery.
Missing foot bars, compass, throttles, bolster reinforcing bars that attach to rear of seat and gun wales, and no quality gauges that should be in a 2012.......just saying.
Too bad the transom is already cut for Bravo's.

johnny b good 05-21-2014 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by verbi69 (Post 4125949)
It think the engine hatch and cockpit color scheme is cheap looking along with the back seat, no headrests.....no side pocket storage just covered up with upholstery.
Missing foot bars, compass, throttles, bolster reinforcing bars that attach to rear of seat and gun wales, and no quality gauges that should be in a 2012.......just saying.
Too bad the transom is already cut for Bravo's.

It does look like it was a hurry up and make it look complete to sell

verbi69 05-21-2014 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by johnny b good (Post 4125953)
It does look like it was a hurry up and make it look complete to sell

Exactly, I know my boat is not new but I would be somewhat ambarrased to roll around in that.....(let the flaming begin).
What's with the back seat, very amateur.

verbi69 05-21-2014 05:20 PM

My opinion on the boat is it would need if not a complete, at least a partial redo.
Good engine packages are 40k plus another 20 for drives, there's 60k....


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