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throttleup 09-12-2006 06:39 AM

Throttle Up Raises the Bar
 
Throttle Up Propellers is proud to announce a new line of propellers that are manufactured in a CNC machine.

Currently these propellers are available to fit Outdrives and Outboards (Bravo 1, Alpha 1, Mercury Outboards, OMC Outboards, etc). They are available in 4, 5 and 6 blade configurations. Diameters are available from 14" to 16".

These propellers are manufactured in house with the most technologically advanced software and CNC machinery available, from molds and castings designed in-house. Throttle Up Propellers are made with the finest materials and heat treated to our specifications.

Throttle Up CNC propellers are made to the highest tolerances of any propeller in the world. We are able to tailor a propeller to the needs of the customer. Throttle Up can make the propeller in any pitch increment (1/2" and 1/4" pitch increments are available), any diameter and thickness. We are able to make a prop thicker or thinner depending on the horsepower and application.

The Throttle Up CNC Propeller line is FAR superior to any "lab finished" propeller. Testing has shown, in head to head testing, that there is no other propeller that is as fast as our CNC Propellers.

These propellers are manufactured to tolerances that are not possible by hand, typically closer than .001" between any blade.

We are able to make a propeller that is an exact duplicate of another Throttle Up CNC propeller so you never have to worry about damaging that perfect propeller, it can be replaced!

For more details please don't hesitate to call.

klaw 09-12-2006 08:09 AM

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outstanding

StillHaulin@63 09-12-2006 09:58 AM

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Are they 4-Blade?
What price range?

Example: B1-24"

Rebel_Heart 09-12-2006 12:52 PM

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Are they closer to a Bravo or Hydromotive in configuration? Any pictures?

throttleup 09-12-2006 01:34 PM

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They are inbetween a Bravo and Hydromotive. More bow lift than a Hydro and a little less than a Bravo.

The beauty is the consistency from prop to prop. For example a 30 pitch prop is identical in every respect to a 29 with the exception of the pitch. Likewise a LH prop is a virtual mirror image of the RH prop. This is not the case with most cast props.

Sea-Dated 09-12-2006 01:36 PM

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Price??

Pure Energy 09-12-2006 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by throttleup
They are inbetween a Bravo and Hydromotive. More bow lift than a Hydro and a little less than a Bravo.

Are these going to be "mass produced", custom cut, or both? Seems like you could make a prop do what you want right from the get go.

throttleup 09-12-2006 05:10 PM

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Sea Dated....your killing me!

Pure Energy,

They are indeed custom props made to order. But you are correct in that we can create the propeller to any pitch and diameter you desire. And a few other tricks along the way.

Julie

Dueclaws 09-12-2006 06:01 PM

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Great to have another source!
Will you tool-up for speedmasters?
Due

SeaRay Jim 09-12-2006 07:27 PM

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What, no custom BIII props? :evilb: (yes, I'm kidding :D)

TxFountain 09-12-2006 07:39 PM

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Julie, PRICE???

SeaRay Jim 09-12-2006 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TxFountain
Julie, PRICE???

I think she tried to make the point with Sea-Dated that you need to call them. :D

zahndok 09-13-2006 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SeaRay Jim
I think she tried to make the point with Sea-Dated that you need to call them. :D

Sure doesn't sound unreasonable to me for customers to ask price when a product is announced. I'd like to know the ball park price range for a 4 blade 32 pitch prop, bravo equivalent, to fit an xr shaft before I call.

z.zuperboat 09-13-2006 05:53 AM

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Lets See If The Machine To Make Them Was Cheap The Props Would Be. Lets Think A Cnc Machine Not Cheap. How Many Different Props Shafts Will Be Available. With The Max Diameter Being At 16 That Would Just Make The Cut For Some People Running Small Diameter Speedmasters.

TxFountain 09-13-2006 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SeaRay Jim
I think she tried to make the point with Sea-Dated that you need to call them. :D

SearayJim, I think I tried to make the point that I would like to see a ballpark price. Sorry you had a problem with that.
I didn't see anything that said call for prices.

zt260 09-13-2006 11:36 AM

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Since they state it's better than any lab finished prop, I think it's safe to assume you will be looking at $1000+ for one of these. A third party will have to do some head to head testing soon. Sounds interesting though. :drink:

zahndok 09-13-2006 11:46 AM

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You know what assuming does don't you. :D

cshantry 09-13-2006 01:06 PM

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We were there with willy testing these props on race boats in controlled testing and these props were superior as far as stock props and with willy support at the races and testing its only great things to come at throttle up propellers
WHEN YOU FEEL THE NEED

throttleup 09-13-2006 04:43 PM

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OK, guys here you go!

4B CNC Throttle Up Propellers $1300.00
5B CNC Throttle Up Propellers $1900.00
6B CNC Throttle Up Propellers $2300.00

But you guys know I am always good for and OSO Special!

Keep and eye out !
;)

Julie

TxFountain 09-13-2006 06:10 PM

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Thank you Julie.
Now us boys can chill.

el indio 09-13-2006 06:34 PM

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Sounds great.......best of luck to you guys.............m.m....and.......Lucy..

Roger 1 09-14-2006 08:38 AM

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How about some pictures and a little more information about the process?
What kind of machining center do you use? What kind of program do you use to design and cut them. Do you start with a casting or a forging?

Roger

throttleup 09-14-2006 09:28 AM

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Roger,

We start with a casting that is cast from a mold we designed and machined. Billet is very difficult to get and would make the props very expensive. The castings are made to our specs with 100% virgin metal, no remelt like many props, and heat treated to our specs.

As far as the machining center and software we don't want to let that out. We have spent a great deal of money and time to figure out what the best software, machine and tooling works best for this project and would prefer to keep that information confidential. Of the few companies in the world who have been able to make a prop in a CNC and bring it to production we had to figure everything on our own. No one was standing there ready to give us information on what works and what doesn't. We turned many castings into scrap metal figuring out what works.

We had to not only design a prop that worked but tackle the enormous task of making it in a CNC machine.

Matt

zahndok 09-14-2006 12:57 PM

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Sounds like a real step forward in props and a fair price. Will this CNC process be used in the future on any prop in lieu of hand labbing a prop?

throttleup 09-14-2006 01:34 PM

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Current cast props can not be CNC machined for many reasons. The biggest is that they are too far out of spec for machining. Another is that diameter varies from one prop to the next and you would be very limited with what you could do to the prop.

With our castings we can change the rake, pitch progression, cup location and amount, tracking, blade area, diameter, thickness, pitch, etc with just some changes in the computer prior to machining. These are options not available with cast props currently on the market.

I do not think all props will be machined in the future, it's just too expensive. But I think almost all high performance props will be in the future. When you can get a prop that is machined for little more than a lab finished cast prop that's a good deal.

Matt

el indio 09-15-2006 08:17 AM

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Be sure and let me know when you produce speedmaster props...............m.m....

throttleup 09-15-2006 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by el indio
Be sure and let me know when you produce speedmaster props...............m.m....

We are working on that now, we are finalizing the molds and then we will start on those. We expect Speedmaster style props to be available for next season.

Matt

zt260 09-15-2006 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by throttleup
They are inbetween a Bravo and Hydromotive. More bow lift than a Hydro and a little less than a Bravo.

The beauty is the consistency from prop to prop. For example a 30 pitch prop is identical in every respect to a 29 with the exception of the pitch. Likewise a LH prop is a virtual mirror image of the RH prop. This is not the case with most cast props.


How does your 5 blade compare to the Maximus, when cut to 15 5/8"? Basically what I'm asking is bow/stern lift. Since the rest of the characteristics depend on the hull.

throttleup 09-15-2006 11:02 AM

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If you want to compare a stock Maximus, which is closer to 15 7/8", to one of our props at 15 1/4" our props would carry the bow in a similar manner. We can make our props in any diameter up to 16", as we increase the diameter it will also increase the sten lift. If you were to compare a Maximus with one of our props of the same diameter the Maximus would probably have a little more bow lift. Since I have seen the Maximus cut in all kinds of different shapes and cup profiles it would be difficult to compare to a modified Maximus.

When manufacturing the prop we can also design the cup to come around the tip if we think it would be necessary, this would help raise the bow.

Matt

zt260 09-15-2006 11:12 AM

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Why would a stock Maximus have more bow lift in the same diameter? What’s different about your design?

throttleup 09-15-2006 02:44 PM

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The rake angle is a little less on our props than a Maximus. Typically when you get into the higher pitch range boats usually don't need as much rake in the props. This is due to many factors including boat design.

The Maximus prop has a lot of cup in the tips of the blades. Keep in mind that Mercury needs to make a prop that out of the box will work on a wide variety of boats. Hence their props have to be made so they will fit a wide range of applications. Mercury sells the same props to boat manufacturers and their props need to work on all of them.

Matt

BajaBennett 09-15-2006 02:59 PM

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Julie,

Congratulations on your new product line. The best just keeps getting better!!!!


Thanks,
Dail Bennett

throttleup 09-15-2006 04:01 PM

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Thank you all, for the inquiries and positive support this week!

Julie & Matt &
The Staff of Throttle Up Propellers

Vinny P 09-15-2006 07:40 PM

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As I have always said, you guys are the best.

Vinny

:drink: :drink:

KenD 09-15-2006 10:53 PM

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Before Throttle-Up came out with the CNC props, every set of props we ordered was a gamble.....and every prop had to be tweaked.

Now, with CNC machining and finishing you are guaranteed that left hand prop will be exactly like the right hand prop. You can also be assured that if you need to replace a prop, the new prop will be an exact duplicate of the previous one.

No more guessing, no more time and money wasted on testing and tweaking.....you get the exact same prop every time.

70% of the time we put on the race boat has been testing...and 80% of that time was for checking and tweaking props. With the CNC props, once you have your setup...your done.

Com'on oyster beds, sand bars, and underwater monsters...eat my props. I can get another set exactly like these.

Ken Doyle
Mid-American Offshore
SBI/APBA Super V #10

KenD 09-15-2006 11:00 PM

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The most important benefit..............they are FASTEST Props we have ever run!

throttleup 09-16-2006 06:34 AM

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Thanks Ken. We will spend the day today at the 10th street boat ramp in Sarasota testing, testing, testing. We will be testing on several race and pleasure boats further validating the performance of our CNC props.

Looking forward to finalizing the dialing in on your boat, Ken.

Matt

throttleup 09-16-2006 06:49 AM

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Our CNC props are available in either a polish finish. Or a machine finish.

z.zuperboat 09-16-2006 07:58 AM

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How Many Different Shafts Will Be Available ? I Run A 19 Spline Speedmaster Longshaft. Run A 16x32 4blade At 6000 Rpm Always The Slip On The 4 Blade Is 13% And My 3 Blade Is 18%. More Blades Less Slip

SeaRay Jim 09-17-2006 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TxFountain
SearayJim, I think I tried to make the point that I would like to see a ballpark price. Sorry you had a problem with that.
I didn't see anything that said call for prices.

I had no problem, it was just a tongue-in-cheek comment but I admit, I was also was thinking at the time about how pricing being discussed in forums by vendors was generaly prohibited (hence why I assumed the comment was made to Sea-Dated) and didn't think about the fact that I'd never seen that with OSO.

My bad. I'll sit down and go back to my drink now. :drink:


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