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Powerquest_Baby!! 08-17-2010 05:38 PM

Hmmmmm....Labbed but no RPM improvement
 
Doesnt make any sense but I just had a Hydromotive QIV 23P labbed by a local shop and my RPM's didnt change at all..(The blades are clearly thinner so I know they worked on the prop). Not sure if a stern lifting prop is best with this hull
Currently running at 4500 RPM...I have a 454 Mag EFI which Im told should be running 4600-5000 RPM.
Ive run a 21P Mirage (not plus) and am at 5100 RPM which is too high...
Should I be looking for a new prop? 23P Mirage Plus (which is more of a bow lifting prop)??

Griff 08-17-2010 08:35 PM

I highly doubt a Hydro Q IV is the right prop your boat. "Local Shop" probably does not have the knowledge to lab a prop to the exact needs of your boat.
5100rpms is not a problem on a 454mag as long as you are not banging the rev limiter all the time. You could easily have some more cupping added to the prop to reduce the rpm a little. A stock 21 Mirage Plus will also drop the rpms about 200 with no speed loss.
The best prop would probably be a labbed 23 Mirage Plus......labbed by BBlades, not the local shop.

Powerquest_Baby!! 08-18-2010 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 3184660)
I highly doubt a Hydro Q IV is the right prop your boat.

Why?

Griff 08-18-2010 12:44 PM

Because Q IV's create stern lift and not bow lift. They are better for boats that are designed to run flat, like stepped hulls and cats.
Conventional V bottoms generally run best with Mirage Plus' or Bravo 1 props.

Powerquest_Baby!! 08-18-2010 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 3184660)
The best prop would probably be a labbed 23 Mirage Plus......labbed by BBlades, not the local shop.

Ive got a PM out to BBlades but no response yet. What is the charge to lab a prop? I just ordered a 23P Mirage Plus off ebay.

Griff 08-19-2010 01:39 AM

I'm pretty sure BBlades is $90 a blade.

Test the 23 Mirage Plus and record rpm and GPS speeds at 500rpm increments. Also, note what you like and don't like about the handling at 500rpm increments. He needs a baseline before he can custom lab it for your boat.

If I had to guess based on your posts, I would say you will spin it around 4700rpms, which will make it perfect for a lab job.

Powerquest_Baby!! 08-19-2010 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 3185862)
If I had to guess based on your posts, I would say you will spin it around 4700rpms, which will make it perfect for a lab job.

Griff--I hope you are right. In all honesty if Im hitting 4700 RPM and am back around 60-62 MPH Ill be happy and may not even lab the prop.
Ill post some numbers once I get a chance to try the prop out.

bbladesprops 08-22-2010 07:53 PM

Sorry for the delay. I responded to your PM

Brett

Powerquest_Baby!! 08-26-2010 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 3185862)
I'm pretty sure BBlades is $90 a blade.

Test the 23 Mirage Plus and record rpm and GPS speeds at 500rpm increments. Also, note what you like and don't like about the handling at 500rpm increments. He needs a baseline before he can custom lab it for your boat.

If I had to guess based on your posts, I would say you will spin it around 4700rpms, which will make it perfect for a lab job.

I took my boat out yesterday with the 23P Mirage Plus and what a difference! One word--WOW!! My RPM's increased from 4500 to 5100 and my speed went from 57 MPH all the way to 63 MPH. Its just screaming now! I do have some chine walk at WOT but otherwise I cant believe how much more power I have.
No doubt about it--the Hydromotive Quad IV is NOT the right prop for my boat--you were right! Thanks again for the input!

Im going to be selling the Hydro QIV 23P if anyoine wants it!!

Revspan 08-26-2010 08:30 PM

How do you think the midrange and cruising speeds are compared to the 4 blade? I am running a 23p Rev 4, and have a 23p mirage plus on the boat for a backup. It is my impression that the midrange speeds were better, and that overall acceleration was better, especially with a heavy load in the boat.


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