Looking for Mirage 23
 

Anyone have a Mirage or Mirage+ 23P Right hand? I'm interested in trying one...

Don't have one, but got a question for you. What boat is it for? As you know, they are quite different.

Good luck with your hunt.

Going on a 1990 22' Scarab with a 454 and Bravo 1. Boat has a new 4 blade 24pitch Mirage and I'm only getting 4100rpms out of it. Motor is stock 330hp but told it should be running it the 4400-4600rpm range.

I am not positive but I think I have one in the shop. PM me your contact info and I am sure we can work something out.

The mirage don't come as a 4 blade, so don't know what you have. You should also try the LaserII. Works very well on boats your size. If you are at 4100 rpm, and your prop is 24", you should look into a 21". Yes, the reccomended range is 4200-4600, and you should be at or a little above 4600 for good top end. If you have a prop shop with props to try, these are the props I would try. Bblades also have a test program.

LaserII 21" and 23"
Mirage+ 21" and 23"
Vensura 21" and 23"
Revolution 4 21" and 23" (for allround and good midrange)

As can be read in some of my other posts, I'm a big fan of the LaserII and Vensura on the smaller Scarab's, Baja's ect. Have shown to be the fastest if you look for top end. The M+ is a bit more allround, but I think the Vensura is as well.

Sorry, it's a Bravo 1 4 blade. I picked up a 23P Mirage that I'm going to try first, and if that doesnt work maybe go to the 21. Thought my 454 would have more power than that...

Wow... A B1! That is a huge prop for what you are doing. You should see a great improvement with the Mirage. Is it a Mirage+? If not, you can always have it labbed and modded for some more bow lift and rpms for speed. That is the big diff between the M and M+, more cup and bow lift. An M+ if it is a such, is also great to lab. Your boat likes bow lifting props, and the B1 you had on it, do not have much of that.

Interesting to hear how this turn out. Get back with some numbers.

It is a Mirage+. Hopefully will see some big improvements. Gonna test this weekend although only gonna be 50 on Sunday in the Northeast? Chilly

I guess I haven't made it clear....................
Just kidding.

BBLADES has a test propeller program. You can test propellers from BBLADES, Mercury, Hydromotive, Turbo, Hering, and others without buying them. We charge $45 for a 15 day test.
gumbya, I know you found a prop to test but if you need more help let us know.
Here is more information about our test program.

http://www.bblades.com/pressreleases...essReleaseID=3

Thank You,
Brett

Agree. Your going to need a 21 it you want to spin it up to 4600.

Well, he should at least get to 4400 wilt the m+. The B1 is somewhat of an anchor to spin, if you don't have big power. If 4100 with a 24" (23½") B1, then down about 3/4" in dia, with one less blade, a bit more slip = 4400ish. I think the 23" could be labbed to 4600. Thin blades, I/8" off the dia. should be 200-250 mph. Brett,,, am I dead wrong here? Hey, your test program is mentioned in post #4:party-smiley-004::lolhit:

Hey gumbya, you should have no problem turning the 23 on your boat. I have a 1990 scarab as well, it came stock with the 330/454 and a 23 mirage. It would turn up 4600 rpm and do about 60mph. I still have the prop if you need to try it.

That m+ should be awesome. The 23 sound right to me.

cdscarab that's exactly what I ran this weekend. Put the 23 Mirage+ and got 60.5 at 4500rpms with 2 people and about half a tank of gas. I'm thinking about 62 when it lightens up...

Good all around prop though, nice plane and no blowout on turns. Gonna sell my 24P 4 Blade Bravo1 if anyone's interested.

And now to get it labbed. Then you should see a speed increase and 100-200 rpm's. Perfect.

Never had a prop labbed before. What can I expect price and performance wise? Any recommendations? I thought the Mirage+ was already "factory labbed"

You can get it factory labbed from merc racing, but the stock prop is not labbed. If you want a "real" lab job, get it done at Bblades or DAH so it will be labbet for your boat, and not just a "standard" lab.

The stock prop and and lab prop has a price diff. of about 400$ or more, so unless you have paid at least 950$+, you can pretty much be sure you have a stock prop.
Give Brett @ Bblades or DAH a call.

Is your speed GPS? If so, either that or the tach might be a little off. Your slip is so low that is seems unrealistic. Of course the prop can be a tad taller like 23½". That is seen before with stock props. Is it a new prop or purchased used? If the latter, check with the prewious owner and ask if he had anything done to it. Something is a little off.

That was GPS speed. Tack seems to working fine. When I was with the 24P Bravo I was at 4100rpm at 58.5 WOT(no gas and 2 people) and with the 23PMirage+ im at 4500rpm at 60.5 WOT(had half a tank of gas and two people).

How come you think it is off?

Good deal, if you decide you would rather have a 21 Mirage plus, I have one for sale.

Well. Let me just start by saying that I made a calculation error. I thought your slip was 4%, and that is just unreal low for that kind of boat. I re-did the numbers and ran it through an online calculator as well, and it is actually 7%, which is about as perfect as can be, so no errors. My mistake, sorry. This also mean you have very good bite, so if you ever come across a LaserII or Vensura 23", give it a try. You'll most likely pick up 1-2 mph and 100-150 rpm's. It will slip a little more because of the smaller dia. so you won't get that feeling of being hooked up, as you do with the M+, but sill not bad, and good for the top end numbers. It sounds like you got a really good match for the boat. As said, you can get a little more from labbing, but that can also cost in the midrange speed - it's a give-and-take deal and depends on what you're labbing for.