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Old 01-26-2023, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Brad Christy
In my world of precision machining, I have to eliminate as many sources of error as possible. These habits are hard to shake for me.
That's what Datum's are for......and apparently China don't know what they are! LOL we went through a hair pulling exercise teaching a guy in China on how to read drawings!
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Originally Posted by Wally
That's what Datum's are for......and apparently China don't know what they are! LOL we went through a hair pulling exercise teaching a guy in China on how to read drawings!
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Yup. And Datum -A- on a prop would definitely be the shaft bore.

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in conclusion would you agree the second prop that I thought had 12* of rake has less than the first prop?

I know the first prop is a 15* rake and that what my measurement says so I`m going to pull a PQ90 and burry my head in the sand bacause what I measured and what the prop is matches so why would the second measurement be any different?
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so I`m going to pull a PQ90 and burry my head in the sand bacause what I measured and what the prop is matches so why would the second measurement be any different?
Measurements don't matter and we are not supposed to talk about them you should know better.
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Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL
in conclusion would you agree the second prop that I thought had 12* of rake has less than the first prop?
I concur
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Lol!!!! I will never be able to live that down. You forgot the "2". PQ290
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Originally Posted by Brad Christy
Trash, Dan,

I also think these angles should be measured from the C/L of the shaft bore, not the rear face of the hub. We would all hope that face would be square to the bore, but there's no guarantee it will be.

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Great point. Using a few different blades should have different angles if the rear hub face is not square to bore.
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I always assumed rake was based on the center line of a blade Vs center line of prop shaft.

if the first pixs are correct then if I trimmed the trailing edges of the blades then I would be changing rake?

If I am wrong and the pixs are correct……, I have been over thinking this for 30 yrs! 🤓
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Originally Posted by Twin O/B Sonic
I always assumed rake was based on the center line of a blade Vs center line of prop shaft.

if the first pixs are correct then if I trimmed the trailing edges of the blades then I would be changing rake?

If I am wrong and the pixs are correct……, I have been over thinking this for 30 yrs! 🤓
Gary,

Since the prop is rotating on the shaft, everything should be measured relative to the shaft, if you can.

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Originally Posted by Twin O/B Sonic
I always assumed rake was based on the center line of a blade Vs center line of prop shaft.

if the first pixs are correct then if I trimmed the trailing edges of the blades then I would be changing rake?

If I am wrong and the pixs are correct……, I have been over thinking this for 30 yrs! 🤓
I assumed from the definition of rake, that the middle of the blade at the root, the angle to the prop tips.

With cleaver style props, it seems to be a little different, and uses the rear flat portion of the blades as the Rake Angle.

Using tHe shaft as the zero point, vs the rear hub surface that mau not be cut square.to the bore.

My '90s Rollas only have about 10° rake. You can see they have less of an angle. Hoping they have enough bow lift.
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