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ThisIsLivin 10-28-2020 11:10 AM

How to fix a sagging headliner
 
Any recommendations on fixing a headliner that has just come loose in the center?

IGetWet 10-28-2020 11:36 AM

Get a bottle of aerosol glue. Get a couple different size syringes, probably have to get them from a pharmacy. Take just the needle with it’s plastic base part of the size you think will work best and super glue it to the aerosol nozzle. Stick that puppy through the headliner in a couple different spots and spray around a couple times. Might have to spray for longer than you think to get a decent amount of glue out. I did this when I sold my Baja and I work beautifully.

madbouyz 10-28-2020 01:02 PM

And here I was thinking that I'm a real McGuyver :D

I wouldn't have thought about trying to attach the 'needle' to an aerosol can but would have suggested instead filling the syringe with liquid contact cement and poking it through the headliner . BUT , it would have to be a fabric / fuzzy sort of headliner as you wouldn't want pin prick holes in a nice bright white vinyl material .
Luckily my brother is in the medical profession so I can get all the 'needles' I want without having to look like I've got some sort of substance abuse problem begging in a pharmacy and trying to convince them that I need them for a boat project !

ThisIsLivin 10-28-2020 03:36 PM

I have a syringe I can use and a couple of cans of spray contact adhesive. I guess this winter I will be working on the interior. I'll have to McGuyver an airbag system to hold everything up while the glue sets.

IGetWet 10-29-2020 11:25 AM

You’ll probably have to hold it for a couple minutes but once the adhesive tacks up it should hold itself. Spray it in there, push the headliner up getting the glue on both surfaces then let it fall again and tack up for however long that particular glue says to. Then press it back up and hold it for a couple minutes.

ThisIsLivin 12-07-2020 04:21 PM

Well I finally got back to take another look at the headliner issue. The foam backing has rotted and turned to a gummy mess, I have to replace all the fabric. I tore the cabin apart and started ripping out the old fabric, what a mess. I will have to scrape the gooey foam off and then clean the surface with alcohol. I may call around and pay someone to do the headliner for me and I can do the rest and put it back together. If anyone knows a place that does headliners in Michigan let me know.

Drock78 12-07-2020 07:06 PM

Good luck! Only place I found was Appearance Products in Grand Rapids. $$$$...$$$$$$$$$. Still looking..

ThisIsLivin 01-04-2021 02:59 PM

Any recommendations on where to buy headliner fabric? The original was a very light gray fabric with foam backing in a 72" width. I am having trouble finding anything like that. Everything I have found is like trunk liner or a heavy course fabric. I have everything prepped to install the new fabric, I just need to find something nice.

93 shooter 01-04-2021 04:12 PM

https://www.sailrite.com/Seabrook-Wh...SAAEgIj6PD_BwE

https://www.fabricwholesaledirect.co...SABEgKm8vD_BwE

ThisIsLivin 01-05-2021 08:45 AM

I appreciate the leads, I have samples coming from Sailrite, but they are the really coarse fabric and I was looking for something more cloth based. The vinyls are typically 54" wide and would require a seam that I am trying to avoid.

Padraig 01-05-2021 08:20 PM


Originally Posted by ThisIsLivin (Post 4771593)
Any recommendations on where to buy headliner fabric? The original was a very light gray fabric with foam backing in a 72" width. I am having trouble finding anything like that. Everything I have found is like trunk liner or a heavy course fabric. I have everything prepped to install the new fabric, I just need to find something nice.

I would stay away from foam backed light weight material. I have seen many different brands of boat that have the same problem you had. My old Velocity had the same problem. My present VR 1 which was refurbished in 2013 has vinyl.

Padraig

1960brookwood 01-06-2021 04:20 AM

I work in the office furniture industry and our company store has hundreds of odd lot/ discontinued/ COM overrun rolls--send me a pm with more specifics and I would be happy to take a look.

Quinlan 01-06-2021 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by 1960brookwood (Post 4771884)
I work in the office furniture industry and our company store has hundreds of odd lot/ discontinued/ COM overrun rolls--send me a pm with more specifics and I would be happy to take a look.

Off topic but which manufacture?
I am an independent installation co in Tulsa OK and do mostly Herman Miller but have experience with most all of them.

Alwhite00 01-06-2021 08:09 AM

Jo-Ann Fabrics has the headliner material.

green lightning 01-06-2021 09:42 AM

When I replaced my headliner I got some material from a audio store that did custom speaker boxes , it was the material that they covered the boxes with I did it 7 years ago and it has held up well

madbouyz 01-06-2021 01:39 PM

When I was re-doing my headliner I was looking for the exact stuff like in 93 Shooter's link but it wasn't available locally. I wanted that simple, clean easy to maintain look.
The (very talented) gal who was doing our work said that my alternative pick of plain white vinyl would look like chit because when stuck on it would show all of the imperfections and hollows in the glass layup. (remember , the nice side is on the outside and has gelcoat on it)
Instead I went with the mouse fur fabric . It doesn't show any dips or hollows even though people have to be mindful of not trying to use the headliner as some sort of head/hair cleaning tool when they're down below.
It's not exactly what I wanted but it's a good compromise and it's a whole lot less ostentatious than the original 70's era shag carpet that it replaced.

ThisIsLivin 01-07-2021 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by Alwhite00 (Post 4771906)
Jo-Ann Fabrics has the headliner material.

I actually checked there, they had a nice product, but it was only 54" wide and I would need a seam that I don't want to do.

ThisIsLivin 01-07-2021 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by madbouyz (Post 4771963)
When I was re-doing my headliner I was looking for the exact stuff like in 93 Shooter's link but it wasn't available locally. I wanted that simple, clean easy to maintain look.
The (very talented) gal who was doing our work said that my alternative pick of plain white vinyl would look like chit because when stuck on it would show all of the imperfections and hollows in the glass layup. (remember , the nice side is on the outside and has gelcoat on it)
Instead I went with the mouse fur fabric . It doesn't show any dips or hollows even though people have to be mindful of not trying to use the headliner as some sort of head/hair cleaning tool when they're down below.
It's not exactly what I wanted but it's a good compromise and it's a whole lot less ostentatious than the original 70's era shag carpet that it replaced.

That's why I'm looking for a foam backed product so it hides the glass texture. For the most part Velocity does a really nice job on the glass and the inside is pretty good if I had to stick vinyl directly to the glass. I found 2 products from Sailrite and have samples coming. They're just not as finished looking as the factory fabric which isn't available anymore.

DMS_ATX 01-24-2021 12:15 PM

i've had good luck with yourautotrim.com suede material for head liners. they've got a lot more than suede however.

Bwsando 03-26-2021 11:37 AM

no

ThisIsLivin 03-27-2021 10:31 AM

I found a decent selection of fabric at DLT Upholstery supply. Hope to get to it before Memorial weekend

ThisIsLivin 08-03-2021 10:19 AM

It's finally done. Decided to redo the sound system at the same time and ended up rewiring a ton when I had everything apart.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...ae0f2dc789.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...266d22265f.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...4810342db3.jpg

Padraig 08-03-2021 10:21 AM

Looks Great!!!

Padraig

madbouyz 08-03-2021 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by Padraig (Post 4800092)
Looks Great!!!

Padraig


X 2

(Aren't you glad that job's behind you ? )

ThisIsLivin 08-04-2021 06:54 AM

Now that I have repainted, replaced or repaired everything, my wife wants to sell it and buy something bigger. I think I will at least enjoy it for a couple of seasons before I do.

Tractionless 08-04-2021 11:27 AM

Looks Good!

Mine's in the upholstery shop getting the headliner replaced and they're applying the paneling approach to the ceiling. Not sure on the sizes of each yet but the panels are removable to perform service behind it or for replacement due to cut or soiling etc. The walls will still be single piece.


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