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littledcsrodshop 10-29-2007 09:18 PM

Martins Custom.....
 
Have you got to run your boat any latley ??

I know last time you told me the boat ran 68 I believe in flat water & that you were hoping for 70 in some better water...

Have you seen anymore speed ? Do you know what RPM's you are turning ? What prop are you running ?

martins custom marin 10-31-2007 10:12 PM

havent run it winterized now. need to send the risers back to stainless marine to lengthen, small reversion problem. running 5000 rpms 24 pitch bravo1 going to lab it this winter and build a xr lower would like to see a little more after the upgrades. carb is still on the rich side, ran out of tweaking time.

littledcsrodshop 10-31-2007 10:43 PM

Yeah you snowbirds run out of tesing time a bit early up there....:p However be thankful that you have to winterize because that usually means that you have a boat that actuallty runs unlike myself.

Not sure what Stainless Marine would get to lengthen your risers , But you may want to check with Brad ( funhome ) here on the board. I know he changed his risers over to dry by cutting his existing Gil risers & adding to them. You may not be looking to go completly dry but it would be pretty much the same process. Send him a PM he's a great guy

My point is that a Good ( keyword being Good ) fabricator that is handy with a TIG & is good with stainless can handle the job.

Just a thought .....

By the way if your #'s are correct & that 24 pitch spinning at 5,000 is 68 MPH on GPS ( which is I believe what you said earlier ? ) That comes out to 11% propslip wich is really good for a 28 Single.

Talk to you later , Scott

martins custom marin 11-01-2007 03:39 PM

300 for both risers adding 10 inches, useally would fab myself but price seems resonable with the polishing I really dont care to do.

Stormrider 11-01-2007 03:58 PM

I had my Tips cut locally and polished.
Cost was around 350 for both.
Could have bought new ones for the same or less from SM.

littledcsrodshop 11-01-2007 06:03 PM

$300.00 is Way cheaper than I thought they would quote you on that ! Its not really a major ordeal to do but I still thought they would charge more. Not that they should its just that I just thought they would being that the word marine is involved.

You will endup with a more aggressive sound which in my opinion is quite alright..:D

martins custom marin 11-02-2007 03:11 PM

they told me it was to take care of there customers with problems . otherwise I bet it would be three times as much and I wouldnt evan consider paying to have it done.

martins custom marin 11-02-2007 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by Stormrider (Post 2324672)
I had my Tips cut locally and polished.
Cost was around 350 for both.
Could have bought new ones for the same or less from SM.

I looked into taller and longer sm risers when I purchased these the custom built ones were like 1200.00 a set , so Im happy with the out come, upset with the company that sold them to me. I told them what they were going on and after the fact he told me they need to be longer would have went with imcos, had a good deal on a set. at least sm stands behind there product.

littledcsrodshop 11-02-2007 08:16 PM

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I talked to S.M. a couple weeks ago about getting another matching set of dry tails for some Gil manifolds I have & they quoted me $950.00 a piece meaning $1,900 for 1 engine. I knew that they wouldn't be cheap but I wasn't thinking that much.. I will say that the quality of these tails are impresive to say the least ! They probably don't but they feel like they weigh 20 lbs. a piece
Like I said I think $300.00 is a bargin. Send em out !

Here is a pic. of the tails I wanted a match to

littledcsrodshop 11-02-2007 08:59 PM

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I listed my 2 Small blocks in the classifieds yesterday & also gave a description in the same ad of my 511 c.i.d. & supercharger.

Maybe I will sell either the 2 Smalls or the BBC & that will settle my debate , because I am just about ready to start rigging either way... I really can't go wrong either way but I am just having trouble giving up my Good blown BBC for the smalls & losing quite a few MPH in the process.. Either setup is really fine with me. It would be alot easier for me to rig it with the twin Smalls especially since they are completly ready to go & all they need is fuel... So we will just see what happens... Opininons are always welcome but it doesn't meen that I will listen..:rolleyes: I have never really been the type who is driven by popularity... haha...

Here is a pic. of the main reason the boat isn't rigged yet... I took this about 2 hrs. ago , It is a buddy/customers 1969 Z28 that has been 1 year of my spare time , besides regular day to day customer work. I will start shooting the orange basecoat Sun. evening & then start laying out the stripes Mon. morning with hopes of Spraying the Final clearcoat on it that same evening.. I have 2 paint booths Full of parts & two long & hard days ahead of me & then the tedious job of water sanding & buffing before a week or so of Final assembly... So Hopefully I will finish this project up in the next 2-3 weeks !

Anybody out there looking for some , or a good motor let me know because I have 3 & only need 1 or 2...:confused:

Stormrider 11-03-2007 07:01 PM

too many guys trying to push these big 28s w/ one big engine, and having issues.
would be alot easier w/ 2 500hp sbcs.
plus u got 2 nice drives to easily handle them if you push'em to 600hp.

littledcsrodshop 11-03-2007 08:14 PM

If I had 2 500 HP small blocks my mind would be made up already. I would be around the same speed as I would with my single , Poss. a couple mph faster ( maybe )

However my issue with 2 500 HP small blocks is the fact that to build 2 reliable 500 Smalls it would cost me atleast another 10k after buying the parts including around $3,600 for exhaust & that is using the 2 smalls I have now as a start & doing all of the work myself which I would do (excluding the machine work )

I Really wish $$ wans't an issue but in my world it always seems to be....

martins custom marin 11-26-2007 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by littledcsrodshop (Post 2325918)
I talked to S.M. a couple weeks ago about getting another matching set of dry tails for some Gil manifolds I have & they quoted me $950.00 a piece meaning $1,900 for 1 engine. I knew that they wouldn't be cheap but I wasn't thinking that much.. I will say that the quality of these tails are impresive to say the least ! They probably don't but they feel like they weigh 20 lbs. a piece
Like I said I think $300.00 is a bargin. Send em out !

Here is a pic. of the tails I wanted a match to

well S.M. called me today with there suggestion on my revertion problem, there first sugg. was thrown out the door once I sent them in. I sure feel like I had the bait and switch scam, the price went from 300.00 to a 1000.00 and that was cutting me a deal by trading in my risers. that would put the cost of my exhaust over 3300.00. if I knew this I would have went with cmi's. well looks like I do the extentions myself or sell the set, anyone interested:mad:

TexomaPowerboater 11-26-2007 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by littledcsrodshop (Post 2326511)
If I had 2 500 HP small blocks my mind would be made up already. I would be around the same speed as I would with my single , Poss. a couple mph faster ( maybe )

However my issue with 2 500 HP small blocks is the fact that to build 2 reliable 500 Smalls it would cost me atleast another 10k after buying the parts including around $3,600 for exhaust & that is using the 2 smalls I have now as a start & doing all of the work myself which I would do (excluding the machine work )

I Really wish $$ wans't an issue but in my world it always seems to be....

I'd sell the small blocks and the BBC and buy a pair of either 496's or a pair of 6.2's. I was told the saber should be able to hit 80mph with the 6.2's.

littledcsrodshop 12-06-2007 02:23 PM

I am supposed to have a good deposit being sent out overnight to me tomorrow on both my small blocks. So there is a good chance they won't make it in the Saber. They will be going to a good home out west & will make their way into a nice Classic offshore.

As for the 6.2's They are not really an option for me. I am not sure what kind of HP they put out from the factory but it will take in the ball park of a good 400 HP per side to get the saber running an honest 80

We will see what happens.....

TexomaPowerboater 12-06-2007 03:54 PM

Congrats on the sale. I believe the 6.2's are at 320hp. Its not just the hp, but also the reduction in weight - but I guess I don't have to tell you that. Merc still makes a 377 scorpion, but only gets 340hp. I'm hoping they will come out with a 400hp small block eventually. I recall reading about fountains new 32 that is supposed to have 400hp small blocks.

littledcsrodshop 12-06-2007 04:14 PM

Thanks..... Now lets hope the deal goes through....

I wasn't exactly sure what the HP was on the 6.2's.

Although I wish it would for my sake but 320 HP a side is not going to get 80 mph. There is a bit of weight reduction in the sbc v/s the bbc but not enough to yeild 80 out of that setup. Even a 640 HP single would be hard pressed to reach 80. However I sure wouldn't mind being wrong on this one...:D

FunHome 12-07-2007 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 2362159)
Congrats on the sale. I believe the 6.2's are at 320hp. Its not just the hp, but also the reduction in weight - but I guess I don't have to tell you that. Merc still makes a 377 scorpion, but only gets 340hp. I'm hoping they will come out with a 400hp small block eventually. I recall reading about fountains new 32 that is supposed to have 400hp small blocks.

Where did you read that about the 32 from Fountain?? I'd like to read it...
Thanks, Brad

TexomaPowerboater 12-07-2007 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by FunHome (Post 2363310)
Where did you read that about the 32 from Fountain?? I'd like to read it...
Thanks, Brad

Here ya go - http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...d.php?t=165458

They are still a ways away from a finished 32, but should be pretty neat. They need to make an option for staggered small blocks and a 3 man bolster set up.

Speaking of new boats - when are we going to hear this "news" from saber. Was that just a bunch of BS or what. They haven't built any 28's in a looooooooong time, seems like money down the drain to me. I tried to get an estimate and they said they'd get back with me.................about 6 months ago. It was more of a "down-the-road" idea anyhow.

By the way - do you think 80mph is possible with twin stock small blocks in a 28 saber. Purnell is the one that told me that.

Big news coming from Pantera on a new 28 as well. I really can't wait for that and I know that its in the works because Jo's been patting down customers for cameras before he lets him into the shop. Something tells me it will blow out the competition.

Stormrider 12-07-2007 09:21 PM

80 is very possible w/ a pr of sbc's... 500hp ea! :cool:

BGIII 12-08-2007 07:32 AM

Tex - Did you buy a 28 Apache?

TexomaPowerboater 12-08-2007 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by BGIII (Post 2363981)
Tex - Did you buy a 28 Apache?

Yes, I just bought the one listed here on OSO. http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o18918-en.html

I'm a big fan of your 34.

littledcsrodshop 12-08-2007 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 2364190)
Yes, I just bought the one listed here on OSO. http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o18918-en.html

I'm a big fan of your 34.

Did you get the boat home yet ?

TexomaPowerboater 12-08-2007 08:30 PM

No, it will be home by Friday. I will post a thread.

littledcsrodshop 12-08-2007 09:23 PM

Cool.... I know sombody who won't be sleeping much next weekend. lol
Glad to hear its working out for you.


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