28 Saber
 

Just listed my Saber....Priced to sell http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o35717-en.html

Nice looking boat. How fast is it?

Its about a 75mph boat

That shouldn't last long at that price.....looks good.

Is the gas tank behind the back seat and not in the floor? I ask because my 88' 28 single was also like that. I thought only the first two hulls were built like that...

Funny you mention it. The gas tank is behind the seat, when the guy bought this he had only been in the first Saber built and loved the way it handled however this one was nose heavy so he had Saber redo it like original ones. The center of gravity is much nicer this way.

Yeah mine was hull #2......and it also had a ski locker in the floor where the gas tank would normally be. So did they leave the original gas tank in the floor? Man that would give you some serious range if you ever needed to move something somewhere....lol :party-smiley-004:

What is the capacity of the tank in this configuration ?

Scott, post a blown up pic of your avatar! great looking picture of your boat

Thanks.. I just tried blowing it back up to the original size & its really blurry.. I guess I should have saved a copy instead of downsizing the original..

I wanna say 87 gallons.....not 100% sure though

Mine has the tank behind the seat and it is a 90 gallon tank...

Thanks guys..

yeap 90 gals, so you hit 75 gps with 525hp thats good to hear, last tweo weeks zero on mine got hit in the eye by a ufo:eek: lost a week and just got back from wifes vac in NIAGARA FALLS:evilb:, shooting for end of next week. glad to hear tank works better there cause its a pain with a blower.

wow, 75 with a single 525 is a good number, i only get that with my twin 425's

Ya, thats what i was thinking. I was running high 70's with almost 700hp, with a full load. 75 with a 525 is huge compared to me what what it takes me to get there.

I'll say it....no way that boat runs 75 with 525.

i was thinking mid 60's

Mine with a 500 saw 64 on it's best day.....

64 YOU TOLD ME 68, BUT your drive was like 14'' x = 7 5/8'' propshaft height which is deep.ERNIE just raised his propshaft height to 3 3/8'' on his 31 sutphen single picked up more speed and more bow lift I took pics from the 46skater at 75 or so. the sabers should be around 4'' on the singles for height for handling and speed, well mines at 3'' if its right and I need to get back to it ,shooting for mid sept now boy only if Dean had my motor done last yr on time Iwould of had a GREAT SUMMER instead of busting my azz in 90 degree temps everyweek:party-smiley-004:. so whats the x or shaft height on the single for sale, and you guys with twins should look into 2'' shorties over the winter you could pick up 4 to 8mph with new props and lowers. 26 sutphen 85gps with 525, 31 sutphen 85 with 750 to 800 hp both singles and the 26 weights close to a saber 28 so theres more speed in these sabers with right x ,cause the suts have high x's the ones I know of and theres a lot around me.:eek: Igot to get mine done and kick azz.:coolcowboy:

Have considered a set of shorties, but I have been told it takes away from the boats performance in rough water, and that is why I bought it. I would also be concerned about getting on plane, since in rough water I really have to ease her up to keep from blowing out, although 4 or 5 blade props would probably make up for the higher x.

I would see mid 60s with my single 502 bone stock, I will try to run it with gps and see how close it comes to 75 and just to get some info from the experts how fast do you think a 28 with twin 502 mags will run???

I'm no expert but Powerboat radared the Cyclone at 85 with around 900hp at the prop. It also radared one with twin 454 Mags at 75 with 700hp at the prop. So I would say somewhere in the middle with 502's and 800hp at the prop.

Mine has twin 502's and runs 74 under any conditions and load, have seen 76 a couple times. This is with stock 25p mirage, rpms at 5100, could probably pick up a couple mph with labbing and a few more rpm. Also my boat is the one Powerboat tested with the 454 mags (motors have been replaced now obviously) and kind of makes me wonder how accurate their radar was since I get the same speed with an extra 120hp. Their test was in saltwater (adds a little speed I think).

mine was 68 with the 525hp 517 roller and it is 75 to 78 with the 700+ 540ci depending on how the motor feels like running (man I wish I had the 517 back) the 540 ruined my summer

Martin, When you bought that Saber from me with the 502 was it running 62-64???? The other thing this Saber has is that it was reconfigured to the Original design so the hull runs much more freeeeeeeeee.

like I said it depends what prop and X or drive shaft height you have. these test were done back with 3 blade mirage props. with 700hp right prop you should be 80 to 82. deep drives ARE not good for rough water. when you dial a boat in it should fly straight level and you get that by your drive being in the right spot. ERNIE'S boat is flying more level now with is final height at 3 3/8'' propshaft from the 4 3/8s he had its a straight v hull 30 ' 9'' by 8 sutphen hp is around 900hp he is getting mid 90s boats about 6000lbs single. running a 29 b1 custom prop at about 5800rpm. he bought the 2'' shortie I told him about my pick up of 8mph when I changed to a 2'' shortie and carb on my baja ol24 and mine and his flew more level. we have 4/5/6 blade props now so running deep and mirages is old news ,they were great when they came out cause all we had were chopper and cleavered props and my 25 mirage blew away the cleaver and chopper props that a friend and I tried back in 1990 on my boat and his trs superboat and it was mirage all the way. you guys need to put a straight edge and measure your prop heights if your 5 1/2'' or higher a shortie will help with top end and rough water running. Ernie went with a 2'' but added a 1'' spacer 1st like I said he LOVES IT and might pull the spacer out and try it. but I think it will be to high myself. with the 8'' box mine has Ishould be at 3'' if my math is right:coolcowboy:. the sutphens are bigger ,heavier,more degree on hull = more wetted surface . so if there running better higher we should also. so if anyone wants to post or pm there heights either Xor shaft height lets see what you need, hope to have numbers soon myself, I run to dif pulleys to get more info. oh sutphen puts gas tanks under back seat which I think is a good spot to leaves room for a BLOWER:lolhit: art

the boat ran 61 on speedo more like 58 gps but the mach sterndriver that was on it was a rpm eater when i went to a bravo 1 i gained about 2mph. airtime you need to get that thing running to prove all the numbers you keep throwing out saying how the x is to deep and these 28s wont run or fly correct, I have had mine air born enough to know it flies good and true. get that x as high as a skater 28 and on jack plates and bring it to lake michigan and run it thru some 5 footers with that ocassional 8 to 9 amd see how fun it is. I dont care to run a 17" herring 6 blade to get it on plane and get some bow lift out of it. run your 110mph prove to us your theroys are correct and then we will follow your lead.

no problem it worked on my baja 24 ol, works on the sutphens, superboats,and others cigs. these boats[ most sabers] were rigged before b1s most of them the last in what 1996 I think. no need for a herring 17'' it won't fit a bravo style will 6 will, skaters are about 3'' above the keel. I ran into a new problem the gas tank has a leak :eek::eek::eek: on the bottom it looks old too. whats your X on your boat and speed gear prop you don't have to do nudda thing man just if you guys post it I'll tell yah WHAT I think might work and once mine is running this fall some might want to make adjustments. but my drive is shorter than a xr drive and I have a box so it would be closer to a ITS set up. and I run b1 props and hydro px5 there both bow lifting props. that mach is old tech real wide blades good for a sea ray. later got a pokerrun to take pics at. Iam very impressed with the build of this boat and just think if SABER builds a new 28 it will be lighter faster with vac bagging and new foams plus higher x for the 5 blades merc max or hydro px5 props don't for get about the bravo twin boat that did 104 to 110gps with mod merc 500hps pushing 600hp well got to go wine to my friends at a pokerrun theres a couple of 26 and 31 sutphens that want me later

Who bought the boat??

It was some guy out of Cleveland Ohio area not sure if he is on OSO or not. Seemed like a good guy and he got a great boat!!

I hope we see him here.

Great to see you again last weekend! Good times!
Your boat sounded great by the way!

I agree on the above. Sabers with singles run great and fly straight. With twin big blocks (and NO BALAST) they are very azz heavy and show it in rough water. The (i think) one and only twin small block ex/current race boat is balanced nearly perfect. The same guy (also on this site) who once owned the small block boat, along with large cigs and a 41 apache, has a twin BB 28 saber with hawk 550's, It runs a solid 90 with bravo 1 30's. It also is very azz heavy, and shows it in big lake MI water. the boat was is called purple haze and had some big power (1000 + each) in its past. Supposedly ran around 110 with bravos.

Yeah, its the only one with twin small blocks!!! Here is a pic. not the best to show balance but you can see how it rides in calm water..

did you ever get it back out to gps your speed? I'll have my new tank in a week or so these guys build them for OL, went up 8 gals but picked up 3'' for my blower motor:coolcowboy:

The boat is awesome! I have consumed many beers on it. :drink:

Am the guy who bought the Saber in question...so far a good boat have not seen that 70's number yet but have not pushed it either...only had the oppertunity to run it three times as the weather has sucked and my wife refuses to put on her winter coat to go boating! Did run to Kelly's a couple of weekends ago in 6 footers and had a nice solid ride...Glad I chose the Saber over the 29 Scarabs I was looking at!

CWC No comparison to something like the bayliner of performance boats to a true offshore hull. My buddy Air Time is getting his together well builf nice lines deep and nice layout good luck with it.
-Mike

CWC where do you boat at? You live in Ohio?

I have been out of it for a few years (had kids) but now the family is old enough to enjoy. Fairport Harbor is our primary but my father (and his 38 fountian) are up in Sandusky so we will be in both locations next year.

We boat out of East Harbor and around the islands. Maybe we will see you sometime.