Larry Smith Edition Scarab????
09-09-2015 | 09:42 AM
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So were some Larry Smiths made under this hull ID i take it?
ARIZONA HOMEMADE BOATS
MIC: AZZ Status: Federal or State Agency
Company: ARIZONA HOMEMADE BOATS Company Official: NULL, NULL
Parent Company: NULL Parent MIC: NUL
Address: MIC FOR STATE ISSUED HINS City: NULL
State: AZ Zip: NULL
Country: NULL Phone: 6029423000
Fax: NULL In Business: NULL
Out of Business: NULL Date Modified: NULL
Type: Miscellaneous
Addtional Address: NULL
MIC: AZZ Status: Federal or State Agency
Company: ARIZONA HOMEMADE BOATS Company Official: NULL, NULL
Parent Company: NULL Parent MIC: NUL
Address: MIC FOR STATE ISSUED HINS City: NULL
State: AZ Zip: NULL
Country: NULL Phone: 6029423000
Fax: NULL In Business: NULL
Out of Business: NULL Date Modified: NULL
Type: Miscellaneous
Addtional Address: NULL
09-11-2015 | 05:07 PM
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From: Port Richey, Florida
I have had owners try and argue that it was a legit...but when you see a Scarab (or whatever brand)...with the HIN number missing on the transom and an FLZL HIN Sticker, there is usually only one of 2 explanations as described above.
Same thing happens with Boat trailers...kind of funny to see an Aluminum Boat trailer with "Loadmaster" Decals/labels yet they try to claim it is a "Home Made Trailer"....yeah right.
Somewhere along the line the legal ownership has disappeared, for whatever reason, and some people will use the "Home Made Title" loopholes to make it legal again, or so they think.
Last year I saw a pristine Warlock World Class for sale as a Chris Craft, with a HIN engraved poorly in the hull from an 82 CC Scorpion and was advertised as such....was also sold as such to an unsuspecting buyer. The used boat dealer knew darn well it was not a Chris Craft, at least for sure after I proved it to him, but even after that he said "Not a problem, it is done all the time"....
As always,.. Buyer Beware...and as a rule if the HIN # doesn't make any sense, be very very cautious.
Cheers,
Dave
09-12-2015 | 02:30 PM
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Thank you for the reply. I spoke to Dan from Archer Marine two days ago and we figured it out. The boat is a documented Larry Smith Scarab, however somewhere down the line, a new HID number was placed on the boat. It was built and 87 for Shawn McWhinney down in sunset aquatic. I really appreciate the info.
I would guess a boat with an "AZZ" HIN was either salvaged, or stolen and then someone got a "Home Made" Arizona Title for it. I see them here in Florida all the time, starts with FLZL.
I have had owners try and argue that it was a legit...but when you see a Scarab (or whatever brand)...with the HIN number missing on the transom and an FLZL HIN Sticker, there is usually only one of 2 explanations as described above.
Same thing happens with Boat trailers...kind of funny to see an Aluminum Boat trailer with "Loadmaster" Decals/labels yet they try to claim it is a "Home Made Trailer"....yeah right.
Somewhere along the line the legal ownership has disappeared, for whatever reason, and some people will use the "Home Made Title" loopholes to make it legal again, or so they think.
Last year I saw a pristine Warlock World Class for sale as a Chris Craft, with a HIN engraved poorly in the hull from an 82 CC Scorpion and was advertised as such....was also sold as such to an unsuspecting buyer. The used boat dealer knew darn well it was not a Chris Craft, at least for sure after I proved it to him, but even after that he said "Not a problem, it is done all the time"....
As always,.. Buyer Beware...and as a rule if the HIN # doesn't make any sense, be very very cautious.
Cheers,
Dave
I have had owners try and argue that it was a legit...but when you see a Scarab (or whatever brand)...with the HIN number missing on the transom and an FLZL HIN Sticker, there is usually only one of 2 explanations as described above.
Same thing happens with Boat trailers...kind of funny to see an Aluminum Boat trailer with "Loadmaster" Decals/labels yet they try to claim it is a "Home Made Trailer"....yeah right.
Somewhere along the line the legal ownership has disappeared, for whatever reason, and some people will use the "Home Made Title" loopholes to make it legal again, or so they think.
Last year I saw a pristine Warlock World Class for sale as a Chris Craft, with a HIN engraved poorly in the hull from an 82 CC Scorpion and was advertised as such....was also sold as such to an unsuspecting buyer. The used boat dealer knew darn well it was not a Chris Craft, at least for sure after I proved it to him, but even after that he said "Not a problem, it is done all the time"....
As always,.. Buyer Beware...and as a rule if the HIN # doesn't make any sense, be very very cautious.
Cheers,
Dave
